Facebook 11 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Yes. Its included. The big question is whether HRMC will accept the pence in the £ offer from Green.Now despite all the internet rumours etc HRMC haven't stated either way if they will or won't. Green can say" take it or leave it" all he wants but the reality is very different from that. Its like calling your mortgage company and telling them you'll give them £10,000 to pay off a £100,000 loan then saying "take it or leave it" bold words but likely you'd we living in a b&b before long. These comments worry me. Great for the back pages but will surely rile the HMRC.The reality is nothing has been settled or decided. The only known is the unknown.WATP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelf 1,153 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Here is a list of creditorshttp://images.mirror.co.uk/docs/dailyrecord3/446CF719-0748-5DEC-7ACB7FD9F453C067.pdfHMRC are listed as £14m which excludes both the Big and Small tax case There is no definite confirmation in there that its included as far as i can see. I thought the 14 million was small tax case and PAYE? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 To get HMRC to agree we have to concede the BTC. Whether it is for the full amount (circa £70m if I remember correctly)or a reduced settlement remains to be seen. If we win before the CVA I cant see them appealing. They would surely require new evidence to lodge an appeal. If they had that evidence they would have used it already.All my opinion of course which counts for diddly squat We only have Whyte's word that HMRC would "appeal, appeal and appeal again" if they lost the big tax case.And we know what his word is worth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 110,136 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Why have we still not reached a final decision on the bill? That's nearly 2 weeks over the 90 day period Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Why have we still not reached a final decision on the bill? That's nearly 2 weeks over the 90 day periodWasn't this ninety day period shown to be made up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 110,136 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Wasn't this ninety day period shown to be made up?I've not seen anything about that mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,002 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I thought the 90 day period was just an estimate of the usual time taken to decide these things. I don't think they are tied into a specific timescale?Where did this originate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgacus 88 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 From their websiteWhat you can expect from usWhen dealing with a matter before the First-tier Tribunal (Tax), we will;deal with correspondence within five working days of receiving it;register new appeals and references within 10 working days of receiving them;send decisions to parties of the appeal within five working days of signature by the Judge. The Judge will sign (but not date) the decision once it has been agreed. This can typically be about one or two months after the last day of hearing. The decision will bear the date that it is formally released to the parties of the appeal; andsend decisions to public subscribers (individuals, or organisations, who are not directly associated with the appeal and have requested a copy of the decision) within 10 working days of informing the parties of the outcome of the appeal Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,926 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 i believe that the BTC has already been decided and that HMRC and D&P already know we have lostHence why TBK were laughed at and D&P were waiting for a bigger creditors pot, also as ive said before i think that cunt murray knew the BTC was a loser from the word go, same with Whyte, hence why we needed rid of Lloyds as our majoor creditor and needed HMRC as a creditor in administration Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhailichenko 90 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 We only have Whyte's word that HMRC would "appeal, appeal and appeal again" if they lost the big tax case.And we know what his word is worth.He is the only source that I am aware of that is of this opinion. As you you say we know exactly what his word is worth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 Ive said this constantly for months. HMRC cannot appeal and appeal and appeal. It was complete Bull as usual. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 do are we any closer to an answer on this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 505 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Wasn't it the case that D&P were going to go to court to allow them to present the BTC 'debt' as effectively zero because it had not been concluded yet?That would then make Ticketus the biggest creditor if indeed Whyte's floating charge/debenture has been sold to Whyte. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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