Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I spoke to someone this ormning who advised me that Michael Kelly's daughter is high up in BBC Scotland.Does anyone know who she is?Wonder if she holds the same views as her father.The former convenor of Glasgow council, Michael Kelly, has launched an astonishing attack on Strathclyde police over the recent Celtic chanting complaint.Mr Kelly claimed that the police force had gone “behind Celtic’s back” when they notified European football bodies of alleged pro-IRA chants at a recent football match.Speaking on STV’s Scotland Tonight Mr Kelly insisted that the chants were examples of “political expression” which he claimed was not a criminal offence and said: “I defend their right to sing them”.The former Labour councillor also attacked the Scottish government’s plan to bring in legislation to tackle sectarianism in football describing it as an attack on free speech. He claimed that police chiefs had spoken to Labour MSPs and assured them that their original complaint, which led to last season's summit, was only about domestic violence following Old Firm ties.He also argued that fans on both sides of the football divide should be allowed to sing their songs saying: “people have the right to be offensive if they want to be”.He argued that the best way to deal with such fans would be to ask them to leave the ground.Mr Kelly insisted that last season’s troubles around football that witnessed Celtic manager Neil Lennon attacked at a game and parcel bombs being sent to his, and other prominent fans, addresses was only a “minor series of incidents”.Mr Kelly also compared the IRA chanting to songs like Flower of Scotland and Killicrankie and claimed that they were just as offensive to many people Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Oh and maybe Mr Kelly should have a wee look at Section 12 & 13 of the Terrorism Act 200 before he spouts off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He's missing big Z as has been alleged many from his age group are, but they have their memories.Dull Monday morning and the good old Glasgow banter shines through, altogether now, bring me sunshine Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He also argued that fans on both sides of the football divide should be allowed to sing their songs saying: “people have the right to be offensive if they want to be”. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He also argued that fans on both sides of the football divide should be allowed to sing their songs saying: “people have the right to be offensive if they want to be”.As it should be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Oh and maybe Mr Kelly should have a wee look at Section 12 & 13 of the Terrorism Act 200 before he spouts off.Lord/Baron Reid can't have told him about the Glorification of Terrorism act.Mind you, he went very quiet on that bit after being a key proponent of the Act, he then joined Celtic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He also argued that fans on both sides of the football divide should be allowed to sing their songs saying: "people have the right to be offensive if they want to be".Shame he didn't live up to his own belief when it was Rangers fans under scrutiny.That would have made him credible.Now he just looks like he's sticking up for his own side and using us to look all reasonable, but that fails considering the speaker.He forgets that his side were the key movers for this legislation via the many email campaigns complaining against our songs.They were happy when we were targeted then cry "persecution" when the law has to be more objective than their initial motivations and turns out to be useful against them too.Kelly is a rather late supporter of free speech and his credibility is reduced on this subject matter for that very reason.I don't think Rangers fans should be riding to the rescue to bail that lot out now that their being hit with the legislation they wanted. All that would achieve would be a modification of the legislation that may not be as universal or objective as the original law. Ultimately, standing up for timmy might get that effective "Rangers clause" that they really wanted as they use the "political" card. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 As it should be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 As it should be.Agree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 So who is his daughter high up in the BBC? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 So who is his daughter high up in the BBC?Why didn't you ask the person you spoke to this morning? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilko89 507 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Shame he didn't live up to his own belief when it was Rangers fans under scrutiny.That would have made him credible.Now he just looks like he's sticking up for his own side and using us to look all reasonable, but that fails considering the speaker.He forgets that his side were the key movers for this legislation via the many email campaigns complaining against our songs.They were happy when we were targeted then cry "persecution" when the law has to be more objective than their initial motivations and turns out to be useful against them too.Kelly is a rather late supporter of free speech and his credibility is reduced on this subject matter for that very reason.I don't think Rangers fans should be riding to the rescue to bail that lot out now that their being hit with the legislation they wanted. All that would achieve would be a modification of the legislation that may not be as universal or objective as the original law. Ultimately, standing up for timmy might get that effective "Rangers clause" that they really wanted as they use the "political" card.I think a lot of Rangers fans forget that part in bold. They pushed for these stupid laws to go through and now they don't like it when they are being punished using them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I think a lot of Rangers fans forget that part in bold. They pushed for these stupid laws to go through and now they don't like it when they are being punished using them.Precisely.We can't have short memories and support those who targeted us, but now regret that they are now also part of the "collateral" damage of the very legislation they craved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Not even surprised by this nonsense anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancedeangers1 287 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Where were all of these complaint ants when it was Rangers fans under constant scrutiny? Utter scum the lot of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Where were all of these complaint ants when it was Rangers fans under constant scrutiny? Utter scum the lot of them.One would almost think that these complainants want a "but only if it's Rangers" clause. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Why didn't you ask the person you spoke to this morning? Phuxache - why didn't I think of that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkinator 611 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Scumbag Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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