iang2911 423 Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 If this was to happen i would have D'Artagan, & Edmiston Drive as spokesmen. I would agree!! please get in touch! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iang2911 423 Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 This is a bit like that scene in King of New York, where the Homeys are pointing their guns at the Columbians. Who is gonna put their guns down first?I have plans... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 505 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Good on you for trying to put your words in to action. Happy to help advise where appropriate but given my previous involvement with such organisations I think it best that such a project is driven by new faces.PM me if you want to discuss anything further. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 As long as VB, and the like, are represented this can only be a good thing.It's a tad unfortunate, however, that such groupings tend to lend themselves to those who have a lot of spare time on their hands and are committee minded neither of which are merits for such positions! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss 1,941 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 It's an admiral aim and anyone willing to give of their time should be encouraged. There have been many attempts, with varied (limited?) success, but that's not to discourage new ideas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 505 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 It's an admiral aim and anyone willing to give of their time should be encouraged. There have been many attempts, with varied (limited?) success, but that's not to discourage new ideas.I guess it depends on who the captain of the ship is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamibianBear 1,853 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 If this was to happen i would have D'Artagan, & Edmiston Drive as spokesmen. Ed?????????Haha, only kidding, he makes great statements all the timeAll the fecking time!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Ed?????????Haha, only kidding, he makes great statements all the timeAll the fecking time!!!Your support means so so so much to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 If this was to happen i would have D'Artagan, & Edmiston Drive as spokesmen. I am humbled that you would think of me in such an apt position, that I would obviously do justice to, no hidden agenda Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 14 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I have just sent this out to some on twitter."I'm trying to organise a meeting with as many supporters groups as I can to discuss creating a unified body for all fans. Would you attend?"I have been reading for a while now about the desire for fan ownership, fan charters, song books etc. and don't see anything really happening. I tried to do this before but with what has happened over the last 18 months I believe it is time for all fan groups to come together collectively, while retaining their individual organisation, and work as a unified representative forum for all Rangers fans. Something that would allow every fan to still join up with like minded fans, for whatever purpose, or not but knowing that these groups and individuals are working at some point together for the good of Rangers.This would make the prospect of fan ownership and solving these other issues a real possibility.I find it a bit strange that you are trying to organise a unified bidy but have already decided that fan ownership should be an aim of this organisation. I know many fans who don't agree with this aim so you are trying to set up something that they would not join.There is already an organisation that has fan onwership as a priority and I'm not sure that we need another.If you really want a unified organisation then you may need to consider dropping this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamibianBear 1,853 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Your support means so so so much to me As always Ed.Serious note:As long as we get someone (group of people in) that has no agendas and not in it for themselves then this idea would work. Unfortunately, it seems many of the supporters clubs currently have figureheads that other groups cannot see past. Maybe a totally new, unknown group of people could run this without the baggage associated with known groups currently?I like the idea. It has merit but it will never work if its being agenda driven for personal gain.Taking the number 1 person from each supporters group and putting them into a unified group would be disastrous. Much better to start totally new in my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Not really possible with a support as vast as ours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non_Sucumbi 876 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 We could call it 'The Trust for Rangers Supporters'.Or the Rangers Supporters TRUSS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iang2911 423 Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 As always Ed.Serious note:As long as we get someone (group of people in) that has no agendas and not in it for themselves then this idea would work. Unfortunately, it seems many of the supporters clubs currently have figureheads that other groups cannot see past.Maybe a totally new, unknown group of people could run this without the baggage associated with known groups currently?I like the idea. It has merit but it will never work if its being agenda driven for personal gain.Taking the number 1 person from each supporters group and putting them into a unified group would be disastrous. Much better to start totally new in my opinion.I get your points, I don't see it working quite like that but right now I am exploring the possibility thats all. So far I have had full support from all groups contacted so I will push ahead an see how I get on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iang2911 423 Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 Not really possible with a support as vast as ours.Perhaps, however I think there is a need to do something and I also think the time is right. If it falls flat then I have lost nothing mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iang2911 423 Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 As always Ed.Serious note:As long as we get someone (group of people in) that has no agendas and not in it for themselves then this idea would work. Unfortunately, it seems many of the supporters clubs currently have figureheads that other groups cannot see past.Maybe a totally new, unknown group of people could run this without the baggage associated with known groups currently?I like the idea. It has merit but it will never work if its being agenda driven for personal gain.Taking the number 1 person from each supporters group and putting them into a unified group would be disastrous. Much better to start totally new in my opinion.Thats some of my thinking also, I don't want to say too much as it will just fail before it even gets started. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamibianBear 1,853 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I get your points, I don't see it working quite like that but right now I am exploring the possibility thats all. So far I have had full support from all groups contacted so I will push ahead an see how I get on.Well, good luck with it and I support you fully!Would love to help out some how but no idea how (or even if it's possible this far out). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iang2911 423 Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 I find it a bit strange that you are trying to organise a unified bidy but have already decided that fan ownership should be an aim of this organisation. I know many fans who don't agree with this aim so you are trying to set up something that they would not join.There is already an organisation that has fan onwership as a priority and I'm not sure that we need another.If you really want a unified organisation then you may need to consider dropping this point.It's only one of a variety of issues that affect all fans so should be on the table. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iang2911 423 Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 Well, good luck with it and I support you fully!Would love to help out some how but no idea how (or even if it's possible this far out).cheers mate appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Perhaps, however I think there is a need to do something and I also think the time is right. If it falls flat then I have lost nothing mate.Well Ian , what about coming on Rangers Chat and talking about it.....has a landline number or Skype.....that way you can get your thoughts over and answer questions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 As always Ed.Serious note:As long as we get someone (group of people in) that has no agendas and not in it for themselves then this idea would work. Unfortunately, it seems many of the supporters clubs currently have figureheads that other groups cannot see past.Maybe a totally new, unknown group of people could run this without the baggage associated with known groups currently?I like the idea. It has merit but it will never work if its being agenda driven for personal gain.Taking the number 1 person from each supporters group and putting them into a unified group would be disastrous. Much better to start totally new in my opinion.As you say NB if ths was to have any chance of succeeding it would have to be a completely new group and fresh approach and a new mindset.That's the biggest stumbling block, to get people to give up their little realm of influence as I would not expect any of them to do this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerberusandorthus 184 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Well Ian , what about coming on Rangers Chat and talking about it.....has a landline number or Skype.....that way you can get your thoughts over and answer questions.Good idea ED I have PM'd an invitation to IanG - I wonder if D'Art and others would be interested in a panel type forum discussing this topic I would be on my very best Dimblesque behaviour - parliamentary rules would apply Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamibianBear 1,853 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 As you say NB if ths was to have any chance of succeeding it would have to be a completely new group and fresh approach and a new mindset.That's the biggest stumbling block, to get people to give up their little realm of influence as I would not expect any of them to do this.Hi Ed,Taking aside various people's differences right now...............If this new Unified group is too have any chance (and I do think the idea has great merit) then it cannot have anyone in it that really represents either their own, or their own groups agendas. To do that, the group could not feasibly consist of anyone in the "leadership" (think of a better word for me please D'Art!) of any group nor be a spokesperson for that said group.I am aware that other supporters groups are trying this but maybe the best approach is indeed a whole new look at it from a new angle and without all associated baggage?Do you need a representative in Africa? (now I have set my own agenda )It's a long path and fraught with problems but worth the journey! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamibianBear 1,853 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Good idea ED I have PM'd an invitation to IanG - I wonder if D'Art and others would be interested in a panel type forum discussing this topic I would be on my very best Dimblesque behaviour - parliamentary rules would applyAs long as its not modeled on the Scottish parliamentary system....... Supposed to be a democratic vote Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerberusandorthus 184 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 As long as its not modeled on the Scottish parliamentary system....... Supposed to be a democratic vote NB you know that I am Mr fairness personified - all I ever want is the best for RangersMaybe I should come over and carry out an opinion poll in Namibia - all in the name of fair play obviously Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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