ExiledWeegie123 1,275 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 ye m8 when i said good point i was agreeing with you that its a team job to contribute just trying to get my view across that boyd is a striker,plain and simple no thrills striker who does his job better than anyone weve ever had since mccoist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenage bear 5 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 That is umunst the very best anywhere, if not the best, but hey he's lazy, doesnt do anything other than score and cant do what christiano ronaldo does so he must be shite.If you think Boydy is the man to take Rangers to the 'next level', so be it.I'm just glad you're not our scout.I'm not a scout mate, but my old man was before he died, many years ago.He brought Cutty young and Ted McMinn to the club, some older bears will know those names even if you dont.Define Next level and why you think the best Scottish striker in years isnt good enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wronglypenalised 14 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 That is umunst the very best anywhere, if not the best, but hey he's lazy, doesnt do anything other than score and cant do what christiano ronaldo does so he must be shite.If you think Boydy is the man to take Rangers to the 'next level', so be it.I'm just glad you're not our scout.I'm not a scout mate, but my old man was before he died, many years ago.He brought Cutty young and Ted McMinn to the club, some older bears will know those names even if you dont.Define Next level and why you think the best Scottish striker in years isnt good enough i'll take a wee stab at this, as most teams play one up top you either need to be a) good at holding up play, or b) rapid and sit on the last man to exploit his lack of paceboyd has much to do on this front, when arsenal got to the champs league final with only henry playing up top away from home he held up play to introduce ljunberg and reyes to run in from the flanks, when we got to the last 16 lovenkrands utilised his pace to score breakaway goals (inter at home springs to mind, tho the memory isn't what it used to be) if we want to be competing at that level then we will be playing games with only one player in attack when we don't have the ball, boyd has in my opinion neither the pace nor the close ball control to do this to effect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueben_d 40 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 I agree entirely Boyd is not the man for a 1 up front formation, I dont think we should play that way anyway4-4-2 loyal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledWeegie123 1,275 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 thats why we have seeeeeebbbooooooo and darch use boyd at home in a 4-4-2 and use darch or seeeebbbbbooooo away in a 4-5-1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenage bear 5 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 I agree entirely Boyd is not the man for a 1 up front formation, I dont think we should play that way anyway4-4-2 loyalCORRECTIf we mess about with 4-3-3- or 4-5-1 we will get beat simple. You are correct Boyd isnt a hold up man or a race horse like Hentry, he is a goal scorer plain and simple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wronglypenalised 14 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 I agree entirely Boyd is not the man for a 1 up front formation, I dont think we should play that way anyway4-4-2 loyalcouldn't agree more bud, one of my alltime pet hates about the direction football is heading nowadays, you hear of the older games with 4 and 5 attackers in every team, now we've resorted to 1 guy playing and doing the job of many players, remind me again what the whole point of the game is? certainly not playing for a nil fucking nil draw away from homerant over......for now! :pipegreen: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearethepeople 0 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Let me put this straight...Boyd scores goals. Goals mean points and points make prices.Go on Bodie san, ne danger! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonblue 0 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Let me put this straight...Boyd scores goals. Goals mean points and points make prices.Go on Bodie san, ne danger!4 times in 40 years Rangers have won a title with the top scorer in the leagueThe last 3 SPL titles have been won without a striker scoring more than 20 goalsThe selfishness of Boyd makes rangers an inferior TEAMBoyd other than scoring goals has NO OTHER ATTRIBUTES to contribute to the team.Rangers will never win a title with Boyd as the main striker.Walter knows that - hence his continued search for a genuine striker who will enhance the TEAM.Teams win championships , not individuals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Boyd is good enough for the SPL it's when he plays in europe he looks really dodgy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,737 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Let me put this straight...Boyd scores goals. Goals mean points and points make prices.Go on Bodie san, ne danger!4 times in 40 years Rangers have won a title with the top scorer in the leagueThe last 3 SPL titles have been won without a striker scoring more than 20 goalsThe selfishness of Boyd makes rangers an inferior TEAMBoyd other than scoring goals has NO OTHER ATTRIBUTES to contribute to the team.Rangers will never win a title with Boyd as the main striker.Walter knows that - hence his continued search for a genuine striker who will enhance the TEAM.Teams win championships , not individuals.if it wasnt for boyd, we wouldnt have came 3rd 2 seasons ago, we also wouldnt have came 2nd last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonblue 0 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Let me put this straight...Boyd scores goals. Goals mean points and points make prices.Go on Bodie san, ne danger!4 times in 40 years Rangers have won a title with the top scorer in the leagueThe last 3 SPL titles have been won without a striker scoring more than 20 goalsThe selfishness of Boyd makes rangers an inferior TEAMBoyd other than scoring goals has NO OTHER ATTRIBUTES to contribute to the team.Rangers will never win a title with Boyd as the main striker.Walter knows that - hence his continued search for a genuine striker who will enhance the TEAM.Teams win championships , not individuals.if it wasnt for boyd, we wouldnt have came 3rd 2 seasons ago, we also wouldnt have came 2nd last seasonHypothetical drivel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueben_d 40 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 a team needs someone to score the goals, boyd is the only one apart from Adam who is contributing enough in that department, take him out the team and theres simply not enough goals going to be scored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueben_d 40 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Let me put this straight...Boyd scores goals. Goals mean points and points make prices.Go on Bodie san, ne danger!4 times in 40 years Rangers have won a title with the top scorer in the leagueThe last 3 SPL titles have been won without a striker scoring more than 20 goalsThe selfishness of Boyd makes rangers an inferior TEAMBoyd other than scoring goals has NO OTHER ATTRIBUTES to contribute to the team.Rangers will never win a title with Boyd as the main striker.Walter knows that - hence his continued search for a genuine striker who will enhance the TEAM.Teams win championships , not individuals.if it wasnt for boyd, we wouldnt have came 3rd 2 seasons ago, we also wouldnt have came 2nd last seasonHypothetical drivelsame could be said of your statements Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,737 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Let me put this straight...Boyd scores goals. Goals mean points and points make prices.Go on Bodie san, ne danger!4 times in 40 years Rangers have won a title with the top scorer in the leagueThe last 3 SPL titles have been won without a striker scoring more than 20 goalsThe selfishness of Boyd makes rangers an inferior TEAMBoyd other than scoring goals has NO OTHER ATTRIBUTES to contribute to the team.Rangers will never win a title with Boyd as the main striker.Walter knows that - hence his continued search for a genuine striker who will enhance the TEAM.Teams win championships , not individuals.if it wasnt for boyd, we wouldnt have came 3rd 2 seasons ago, we also wouldnt have came 2nd last seasonHypothetical driveland your stats are not even factual. you dont know if rangers will win a title with boyd as the main strikerjust because The last 3 SPL titles have been won without a striker scoring more than 20 goals doesnt mean whoever is gonna win the league this season will not have a 20+ goal striker, will it?i dont believe there was any striker in our squad over the past 2 seasons capable of scoring the amount of goals boyd has in such a short space of time adapting to a new team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Adam will be on the bench alot this season once Beasley gets match fit!If WS gets another striker then i can see Boyd sitting there with him, The only question is will Barry Ferguson back Boyd like Boyd backed Barry when he got dropped? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonblue 0 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Let me put this straight...Boyd scores goals. Goals mean points and points make prices.Go on Bodie san, ne danger!4 times in 40 years Rangers have won a title with the top scorer in the leagueThe last 3 SPL titles have been won without a striker scoring more than 20 goalsThe selfishness of Boyd makes rangers an inferior TEAMBoyd other than scoring goals has NO OTHER ATTRIBUTES to contribute to the team.Rangers will never win a title with Boyd as the main striker.Walter knows that - hence his continued search for a genuine striker who will enhance the TEAM.Teams win championships , not individuals.if it wasnt for boyd, we wouldnt have came 3rd 2 seasons ago, we also wouldnt have came 2nd last seasonHypothetical drivelsame could be said of your statementsIt could be said, but only by those who don't know the meaning of hypothetical Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leiper 0 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Since when was it Boyd's duty to take Rangers to the next level? I thought that was Walter's?This is why Boyd receives unfair criticism. He gets blamed for problems involving the whole team.It's Boyd's fault we lack creativity in midfield. No doubt it was his fault we didn't finish top last season?Papaguy, isn't 9 other players tracking back and pressuring the opposition sufficient? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonblue 0 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 a team needs someone to score the goals, boyd is the only one apart from Adam who is contributing enough in that department, take him out the team and theres simply not enough goals going to be scored.That assumes that you do not replace Boyd with a more effective striker.Who is to say tghat a more unselfish striker in place of Boyd will create more goals FOR THE TEAM.Those who make that argument for Boyd have no argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 I think Papaguy is talking about Boyd not holding the ball up or winning headers and giving the midfield a chance to support Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-RFC 308 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 The art of goal scoring is clearly very under ratedLet me be honest, if Boyd was pacey, a great passer, link up play, down the wings etc and could score 30+goals a season, what the feck would he be doing near Ibrox? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueben_d 40 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 The art of goal scoring is clearly very under ratedLet me be honest, if Boyd was pacey, a great passer, link up play, down the wings etc and could score 30+goals a season, what the feck would he be doing near Ibrox?his name would be Thierry Feckin Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,737 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 a team needs someone to score the goals, boyd is the only one apart from Adam who is contributing enough in that department, take him out the team and theres simply not enough goals going to be scored.That assumes that you do not replace Boyd with a more effective striker.Who is to say tghat a more unselfish striker in place of Boyd will create more goals FOR THE TEAM.Those who make that argument for Boyd have no argument.so what would you rather have? a kenny miller who runs about creating team goals or kris boyd scoring goals... you just had to look at the goals for and against for the season to see that we were not even far off the amount that celtic had. kris boyd is there to put the ball in the back of the net, if he gets the right service he will score them. he does from time to time bring players into play and doesnt get the right recognition and then when he doesnt score he gets hounded. i know id rather have kris boyd than kenny miller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonblue 0 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 a team needs someone to score the goals, boyd is the only one apart from Adam who is contributing enough in that department, take him out the team and theres simply not enough goals going to be scored.That assumes that you do not replace Boyd with a more effective striker.Who is to say tghat a more unselfish striker in place of Boyd will create more goals FOR THE TEAM.Those who make that argument for Boyd have no argument.so what would you rather have? a kenny miller who runs about creating team goals or kris boyd scoring goals... you just had to look at the goals for and against for the season to see that we were not even far off the amount that celtic had. kris boyd is there to put the ball in the back of the net, if he gets the right service he will score them. he does from time to time bring players into play and doesnt get the right recognition and then when he doesnt score he gets hounded. i know id rather have kris boyd than kenny millerAs Kenny Miller would say,Stuff your top scorer's boot, have a look at my League and Cup medalsToo many supporters think it is Boyd FC not Rangers FC Boyd is inept at receiving the ball, holding the ball, bringing others into playMost teams have a player who will score lots of goalsTitle winning teams have more rounded players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueben_d 40 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 a team needs someone to score the goals, boyd is the only one apart from Adam who is contributing enough in that department, take him out the team and theres simply not enough goals going to be scored.That assumes that you do not replace Boyd with a more effective striker.Who is to say tghat a more unselfish striker in place of Boyd will create more goals FOR THE TEAM.Those who make that argument for Boyd have no argument.who would he be creating goals for???we dont have goals coming from the rest of the team, who should be creating for each other aswell as boyd. yes you need creation but at the end of the day you NEED someone to finish it off, that's boyds job, theres 5 or 6 other players to do the creative part.you will not get someone to do both, at least not someone who will be willing to play in the SPL or that we can afford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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