Some facts and figures: Celtic's Away CL Group record in context.

[ClemensKrauss 0]

(Posted on FF, so for those who don't go there)

This is important, as it is factual, and will be very useful for keeping the Yahoos straight.

Celtic has now reached six CL group stages, and has no wins and only 1 point away from home.

105 teams have reached the first group stage of the CL since 1992/3.

40 have played in the first group stage only once.

So let's start there, and move our way along until we at least find the group with the same number of group stage appearances as Celtic.

TEAMS WITH ONE CL GROUP APPEARANCE (40)

13 have won an away CL game.

28 have at least one point - Zenit can make that 29 this season.

TWO CL GROUP APPEARANCES (15)

12 have an away win in the CL.

Only one has no points.

THREE CL GROUP APPEARANCES (5)

4 have won an away CL game, ALL have more than one point.

FOUR CL GROUP APPEARANCES (7)

All bar one have wins away, and the other exceeds the Celtic points tally.

FIVE CL GROUP APPEARANCES (7)

All 7 have won away.

SIX CL GROUP APPEARANCES - INCLUDES CELTIC - (8)

The magnificent 7 have CL away wins (plural) adding up to 35.

The other team has, of course, not won.

TEAMS WITH A CL AWAY WIN (72)

Man. United

Milan

Barcelona

Real Madrid

Lyon

FC Porto

Bayern Munich

Arsenal

Juventus

Internazionale

Chelsea

Ajax

Valencia

Spartak Moscow

PSV

Liverpool

Dortmund

Rosenborg

Dinamo Kiev

Bayer Leverkusen

AS Roma

SS Lazio

Werder Bremen

Rangers

PSG

Panathinaikos

AS Monaco

Olympique Marseille

IFK Goteborg

Galatasaray

Deportivo

Club Bruges

Auxerre

Atletico Madrid

Steau Bucharest

Sparta Praha

Shaktar Donetsk

Sevilla

Schalke 04

RSC Anderlecht

Olympiakos

Nantes

Lokomotiv Moscow

Feyenoord

Fenerbache

Bordeaux

Villarreal

VFB Stuttgart

Udinese

Sporting

Real Sociedad

Real Mallorca

Real Betis

RC Lens

Newcastle

Maribor

Lille

Kaiserslautern

Hamburg

Hadjuk Split

Grasshoppers

Fiorentina

Ferencvaros

FC Basel

CSKA Moscow

Croatia Zagreb

Cluj

Celta Vigo

Besiktas

Benfica

Austria Salzburg

Artmedia Bratislava

TEAMS WITH MORE THAN ONE AWAY POINT (79)

Man. United

Barcelona

Milan

Real Madrid

Bayern Munich

Arsenal

Lyon

Juventus

FC Porto

Internazionale

Chelsea

Ajax

PSV

Valencia

Liverpool

Dortmund

Spartak Moscow

Rosenborg

Dinamo Kiev

Bayer Leverkusen

AS Roma

Rangers

SS Lazio

Deportivo

AS Monaco

PSG

Panathinaikos

Werder Bremen

Sparta Praha

Olympiakos

Galatasaray

RSC Anderlecht

Olympique Marseille

Club Bruges

Steau Bucharest

IFK Goteborg

Feyenoord

Benfica

Atletico Madrid

Nantes

Fenerbache

Bordeaux

Auxerre

Schalke 04

Lokomotiv Moscow

Shaktar Donetsk

Sporting

Sevilla

Lille

RC Lens

Fiorentina

CSKA Moscow

Croatia Zagreb

AEK Athens

Villarreal

Real Betis

Newcastle

Maribor

Kaiserslautern

Hamburg

Hadjuk Split

Grasshoppers

FC Basel

Celta Vigo

Besiktas

Austria Salzburg

Artmedia Bratislava

VFB Stuttgart

Udinese

Sturm Graz

Real Sociedad

Real Mallorca

Ferencvaros

Cluj

Parma

Leeds United

Hertha Berlin

Genk

Boavista

13 teams have only one away point in the CL first group stage.

This is Celtic's sixth CL Group campaign.

Of the others, only Aalborg have played in the group stages more than once, the other 11 having only one chance to accumulate points.

Of the 23 teams without a win, only one other than Celtic (17) has played more than ten games, AEK Athens (12) - 17 have only played once in the competition.

It's true that Olympiakos took until after their 30th away tie to win, but they had 7 draws by then, and now have 2 wins.

Celtic has 1 draw. No wins.

In short, their form on the road in the CL group stage is a disgrace.

[*Manticore* 1,893]

Excellent piece of research!

Just hope there's a few imposters around

To put it another way, we got twice as many CL away points on our first attempt than they have in 6 seasons.....

[Dado 334]

[*Manticore* 1,893]

PS It would be THREE times as many under current rules

[edranger 0]

[Coopermania 1]

They are a bunch of inbred, pish-stained, scrounging, born-again fuck-ups.

A disgrace to humanity in every way possible.

Timmy needs to open his eyes as to how the world views him.

As for their team ? They got torn a new one on Tuesday. They were lucky Man Utd were content to stay in first gear otherwise I think we would have seen a record CL hammering.

Roll on the game at the Paedodrome I can't wait

[bluenose_72 198]

They are a bunch of inbred, pish-stained, scrounging, born-again fuck-ups.

A disgrace to humanity in every way possible.

Timmy needs to open his eyes as to how the world views him.

As for their team ? They got torn a new one on Tuesday. They were lucky Man Utd were content to stay in first gear otherwise I think we would have seen a record CL hammering.

Roll on the game at the Paedodrome I can't wait

PMSL! Couldn't have said it better myself, Coop

[*Manticore* 1,893]

The next game's at Ibrox though

[BlueIsTheColour 35]

Looking forward to a nice wee rendition of "F**k you Celtc, you'll never win away" on the 27th of December.

Their record is absolutely laughable. CF Cluj got three times as many points in their first ever CL away game than Celtic have gained in 17 attempts. Sums it up very nicely for me.

[ClemensKrauss 0]

Celtic has played 17 away CL group stage games. 0 wins, 1 draw.

18 other teams have played 10 or more but less than 17 (so less than Celtic):

They total 47 away wins, 60 away draws and 199 away points.

In terms of away games played, Celtic is ranked 17th.

In terms of games won, they are 105th and bottom, having won none and played more than others.

In terms of away points gained, they are 92nd.

[stuartm 7]

The next game's at Ibrox though

I think he meant Man U playing them at the San Giro, not Rangers playing them Manti.

[*Manticore* 1,893]

The next game's at Ibrox though

I think he meant Man U playing them at the San Giro, not Rangers playing them Manti.

You're probably right.

[AndyFRFC 10]

That's worthy of a Thread of the Week surely

Good effort!!