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I spoke to nacho_nacho_man privately about tartan because we agreed it could be really nice, but it's more suited to being manufactured as proper woven tartan, which is expensive to do in nice quality because good tartan for quality scarfs is over £30 per metre just for the material. One for another day maybe!

"The imagery above comparing Jum to a big Chow is perfect, he has decided to lay down with some rabid dogs. He will be scratching this itch for decades." - 26th of foot

Written by 26th of foot. Those of us old enough to remember the arcane system of Imperial weights, measures, and currency, do so with the absolute necessity of attention to detail. There were 20 shillings to the pound, 12 pence to the shilling, and 240 pennies in the pound. We were conditioned, look after the pence and the pounds will look after themselves. The pence was the basic building block and it is similarly so with the former Tayside college Law lecturer, Jum Spence who wants his Dundee cake and to eat it too. Prefacing all his comments on Rangers with, "I am saying this from the safety of the east coast"; was a flagging up of his march to martyrdom. He was anxious for immersion into the warm waters of victimhood. Last summer, he demanded contrition from Bears, shrugged-off Bears' legitimate grievances with the word, 'consequence', and led the charge to extinguish our club with the battle cry, 'sporting integrity'. Jum eulogised the Rangers Tax Case blog and often flashed his professional background to legitimise the blog's message. Jum's broadcast vocabulary such as, 'industrial scale' became a parrot of the blog. He was an absolute devotee, he worshipped at the altar. When Rangers won the big tax case and the entire blog was deleted that evening, Jum lamented the Orwell prize winning crib sheet. Jum's need to chorus was quickly sated with the appearance of Charlotte Fakes. Like Cosgrove, he acknowledged it's more than dodgy relevance; however, he opined the requirement to ignore it's provenance because the information was too damned good. Credential flashing was supressed in favour of big fun. Again, like his pal Cosgrove, CF was vital because it exposed the sour underbelly of Scottish football. Since CFs only referred to Rangers, it appears Jum and Stuart accepted Scottish football can be distilled down to the Bears, there we can agree. It's interesting that Jum is concerned reference Scottish football's sour underbelly, Cosgrove defined it as a certain club's heavy influence over particular journalists. In other words, the succulent lamb effect. In April of this year, the 12-12-18 plan for the future of Scottish football was first aired on BBC Radio Scotland. On the Thursday evening Spence presented Sportsound and described the idea as exciting and a panacea for our footballing ills. Roddy Forsyth pointed out that 12-12-18 confined Rangers to the bottom tier for another season, Jum dismissed his concern with, "it's not all about Rangers". I wonder if you agree that Jum's retort sounded a bit sour and if that truly was his conclusion; why such unequivocal support for Charlotte Fakes? Two days later on Saturday afternoon's Sportsound, Jum was allowed to reveal he had been in possession of the twenty-something page 12-12-18 plan for over a week. In fact, he had given the entire plan to his late teenage junior playing son for a couple of days, and he agreed, "really exciting". Rheinhart Gordon joked, "how did you manage to come by this"? Jum laughingly replied, "ah hiv ma sources". Again, the concern of Rangers remaining in the bottom tier was summarily dismissed. Fifteen minutes after Jum's BBC Radio Scotland had backslapped him heartily, three Chairman called in and wanted to know where Jum got the plan and could they send it to them because they had NOT seen it. I am informed more than three club Chairs called to expose Jum's underbelly but BBC Scotland's Producers were intent on fire fighting on his behalf. We know that Jum founded and edited an Arab 'zine for a decade, we know Dundee United's Chair, Stephen Thompson was a big mate and a member of the SPL committee, and we know Jum loved the idea of stiffing Rangers. Further, we know a big part of Jum's depression last week was his beloved Tangerine's decision to ban him and BBC Scotland because of Sportscene's trial by TV. Jum, and today's presentation of his predicament have conveniently ignored this fact. It got lost in the interference being run whereby Jum evoked Pastor Niemoller's words and compared himself with holocaust victims and ra Bhoy in Corduroy found his inner-Dorothy and labelled Rangers supporters complaining as, "the Stasi". Charlotte Fakes also disappeared into the blue nowhere while Jum suffered the slings and arrows of martyrdom. The situation has changed and maybe Jum will adhere to his legal training and begin to consider opposing arguments and objective presentation of evidence? I suspect shops will return to displaying prices in guineas(one pound and one shilling) before Jum succumbs to being fair about Rangers and Rangers supporters.

Obviously I was joking, but stranger things have happened, especially when Ally has been playing him in defence anyway! Seriously though, if we ever see Jig playing right back I won't know whether to laugh or cry.

CanadianBacon summed it up. We don't have to purchase the newspapers. The only time I've bought a Record or a Sun in well over 10 years is the odd occassion when my dad asks me to pick him one up on the way down to see him and my mum. The BBC is a whole different ball game though because of how it's funded, structured and run. Even it's complaints procedures are structured and operated in such a way that the corporation is never truly held accountable and it's extremely rare for it's employees to be genuinely brought to task for biased or agenda-fueled reporting. There's literally decades of evidence to suggest that the BBC is essentially untouchable which gives it's employees more scope than they'll ever need to run riot and abuse the corporations power. You only need to look to BBC Scotland and Pacific Quay's treatment of Rangers to see the abuse of power in full swing.

Don't think he's quit his job or is likely to lose it either. Pacific Quay are more likely to give him a bonus for winding-up our fans, than anything else. He was retweeting stuff about suicide prevention and self-help groups yesterday and no doubt sitting chuckling about it thinking some folk might fall for it and start showing him some pity. The guy's a moron.

At 29 (he's 29 very soon) he's not the sort of player we need even if we could afford his wages. By the time we hit the top flight in a couple of years he'd be 31 and we'd need to replace him. Anyway, we've got Ricardo Fosterinho and Jig can play right back when he's not needed anywhere else on the pitch.

It's high time the BBC was forced into becoming a commerial corporation rather than public funded via the licence fee. If it was being run as a proper business relying on advertisers, sponsors and it's various broadcasting deals instead of being run as a state supported racket, then idiots like Spence & a lot of his muppet colleagues wouldn't even be employed by BBC Scotland in the first place. Even if they miraculously got a job with the company, they'd be held accountable for their actions and wouldn't last long.

Well done to the Football League for treating Coventry with the respect and compassion the club deserves. That's exactly how we deserved to be treated by the SPL last summer, but instead we got disrespect, hatred & corruption.

Didn't catch the game, but well done Lee. A well deserved cap!

Just read the full article and there's a lot of really petty issues in that lengthy list of myths, but if VB feel they're under attack and need to correct all of the petty issues while also addressing some important ones, then it's their prerogative. I'm not going to sit here and judge them for releasing articles they feel they want or need to release, especially when they release so much superb stuff from writers like D'Artagnan and others.

The title of this thread should read "From VB with love". Sorry, just joking!

Jum is going to take up a career in Scottish folk rock music.

I've completely stopped reading articles from Britney. He has absolutely nothing to say which is even in the slightest bit interesting or worthwhile.

I don't know for sure either, but I do know I don't trust our board. To me, it looks like the main issue is our board stalling. The board held a series of negotiation talks for a whole month before deciding to question the validity of the Requisition and ask for proof of shareholdings. That was only even done because Irvine, McMurdo and some Media House minions were spreading rumours about McColl & co not having any shares. This is the same board who weaseled out of an immediate EGM in the first place by stalling because of the cost of an EGM and then went out the next day and hired Jack Irvine to try to save their precious jobs. Why should McColl & co cave in to the demands of men in untenable positions? Roll on Friday and I hope McColl & co don't accept any more stall tactics. Time to hold an EGM asap to resolve the immediate issues and then clear the rest of them out at the AGM when that happens.

I don't know. It sounds like they've already agreed to compromise on their initial demands in the Requisition on the basis that appointments are made now, then every board position is put to the vote at the AGM. The current board either need to agree and risk losing their jobs at an AGM vote, not agree and have an EGM called (new deadline for agreement is Friday) or just do the honorable thing by accepting the Requisition resolutions, resigning and walking away. They have another choice too: keep stalling like they've been doing for over a month.

Spot on. The board aren't confident enough to simply agree to a GM without some guarantees that they'll keep their jobs. Statements like this and more delays just embarrass our board even further. If they had an ounce of dignity left, they would call the EGM and get this over and done with.

Nothing is 100% with these muppets running our club at the moment, plus there's no legal requirement to have the AGM in October and the deadline for audited accounts isn't until well into the new year.

Aye, De Stefano was his name. What a character.

I'm pretty sure there was a Saudi Prince rumour too!

I remember at one point there was a rumour about interest from a Saudi Prince, but can't remember exactly when it was. Think it was maybe while we were in admin', but it doesn't really matter. TBH, I think a lot folk thought it was pretty unbelievable at the time and were sort of going "aye, nae bother" etc. Would be interesting to know if he was genuinely interested in buying us or if it was just a case of Whyte or someone offering him the club for a few million.

Excellent stuff from Chris. If it wasn't for the fact that they employ loads of them, I'd find it hard to understand why the BBC employ muppets like Jim Spence. It seems as though being a muppet is a necessity for being employed by BBC Scotland though.

Fair enough bp, I take your points and can't really argue with any of them, especially when I didn't like the wording of those banners myself either. The Yanks go home thing was particularly embarrassing tbh.

That all sounds fair enough and I agree that some of these banners have been worded really badly. I also heard it was Andy Smillie who paid for them. What I will say though is that just because the banners were organised by some people on FF and had the backing of an ex-RST board member, doesn't mean they were an RST initiative and that was my original point. I'm not really fussed because I'm not a member of the trust, but I think it's a bit unfair to blame the whole orgnaisation for a banner initiative when it was probably not an actual trust initiative even although a few trust members might have been involved.