Lisburnranger

The purpose of Gersave was to allow supporters to save money and acquire shares in the club. The biggest obstacle to this being a success was the lack of availability of those shares. As you know David Murray owned 92% of them and the remaining shares were held in the main by supporters who were emotional investors (as we all are) so had no intention of selling. Gersave wasn't as successful as the RST intended, but that was due in the main to matters outside their control. I would be interested to know what the better more productive ways to support the club are. Doing exactly what we did before doesn't really count as we have seen the dangers in that.

Gersave funds have been refunded to members. Anyone who has not received a refund should contact the RST immediately

It was John Brown who wanted to "starve Green out". The RST advised members to hold off on buying season tickets when it was clear that Green and his consortium didn't have corporate banking facilities and there was no arrangement with Duff and Phelps to ring fence ST money. Very soon the club stopped selling season tickets because of the lack of banking facilities

To be fair they haven't had q and a with any forum so it's not as if RM is being treated any differently. My concern would be the ability to keep control of it so it doesn't evolve into a sniping match. The supporters rightly have loads of questions which all involved are prepared to answer which is why they have the "ask a question" button on the website

Serious question, you can see how this thread has gone, how many constructive questions and answers do you think we would actually get? There are those who have made their mind up, and nothing will change it. They are perfectly entitled to do this. Those that have questions can ask them here. https://buyrangers.zendesk.com/tickets/new

Investing directly in the IPO or through the RST scheme are two options which are not mutually exclusive of each other.People can do either, neither or both. Many people who invest through the RST will also purchase a small number of personal shares post IPO so that they can have their individual invite to the AGM and their share certificate. This is what I will do

There are some very valid questions in this thread. For those who have questions about how the scheme will work, you can ask the people involved. https://buyrangers.zendesk.com/tickets/new You will get a response to your questions.

Are you at it? Little was out of contract at the end of last season and wasn't offered new terms due to the uncertainty. Same as Salim Kerkar. He continued to train with Rangers and was then offered a new contract which he signed. Calling him a traitor isn't just harsh, it is totally untrue.

If you're talking about the chants towards the steward, I thought they were hilarious and exactly what the pleb deserved.

I was told nothing by nobody, and I have absolutely no sources or friends on the inside who could or would tell me anything. Just like everybody else on this thread

This, but that doesn't help the Timposters have a go at Rangers players

How are you doing Pip?

At no point did I suggest your view was misguided or wrong. You are perfectly entitled to hold your opinion, as are others to hold alternative viewpoints. I enjoy going on messageboards to discuss and debate Rangers with fellow supporters. You my friend appear to be more of a Dingwall/RST hater than a Rangers supporter. Either that or you're a troll. Either way I'm out. Edit - I didn't know the story behind the word bigot. Very interesting

Double post....................

I didn't stick up for anyone. I merely made an observation. You are completely entitled to your opinion on MD and the RST. The way you verbally attack those on here who exercise that same right and form a different opinion is out of order. The Rangers support is a broad church united by their support of the club. Your posts to those who back the trust are aggressive and staggeringly arrogant.

You really hate Mark Dingwall don't you? Did he pump your Mrs or something? The arrogance which makes you believe that you have the right to slate other supporters just because they don't agree with you is a disgrace.

As Bearger mentioned the attendance was around 100. I received an email from the RST, it was advertised repeatedly on Twitter and Facebook. Just out of interest, are you a member of the RST ED? Whenever MD has spoken he has been introduced as being from the RST, not a supporters spokesman. For that you would need to look at Ross Blyth and Andy Kerr, or John MacMillan

Mr Bouncy Bouncy as you have christened him

The reason the man is still involved is no great mystery. He was retired by rotation from his position on the board and was up for election again on Friday. He was voted on unanimously. Not a single person raised any concerns about him.

On a slightly different note, we were paying MIH somewhere in the region of £500k per year to administer this EBT for us. Does anyone think MIH would be on the hook for any of this considering it is the administration of the scheme that is the problem. Craig Whyte took on full liability for the case when he bought the club, but I wonder whether that would be enforceable in the event of any alleged criminality surrounding the takeover

http://www.New new bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19243568 New new bbc reporting on 13th August that football debts were settled

If you listen to Derek Ferguson you could be forgiven for thinking that Durrant should be the one apologising to Simpson. He actually stated live on Radio Scotland that he thought Simpson suffered more than Durrant after the incident. It was one of the most disgraceful assaults I have ever seen on a football pitch and I don't think anyone could blame Durrant if he refuses to forgive him

The tax advisor was Paul Baxendale-Walker. He has now been struck off as a solicitor and is involved in the porn industry. Despite his seedy antics now, back when the EBT's were set up, he was well regarded in the tax planning area

You are right, but the allegations have to be heavily caveated in respect of the auditors report. As with many situations with extreme views, the truth is more than likely to be somewhere in the middle.

I don't know the ins and outs of exactly what happened. I think it's true that the money was outstanding for a significant period of time. The story I was told was that MD covered a table at a dinner event and was let down by the people going, leaving him with a pretty hefty sum to pay. (More than he could afford) I don't know the figures or the story behind the bounced cheques. Most of my knowledge of these events comes from message boards and 2nd, 3rd and 4th hand accounts from friends Alan Harris claimed rules 6, 74 and 75 were breached. Following legal advice the auditors disagreed. That much is clear from his statement. As I said in my previous post, there are well established processes he could have followed to take this further. That he chose not to, speaks volumes. I agree that the whole thing (if true, I don't know the full true story) doesn't reflect particularly well on Mark Dingwall. I can sympathise with him being left with a large bill which he was unable to pay straight away, but bouncing cheques is poor form. Alan Harris' opinion is absolutely not objective and is every bit as biased as MD is perceived to be. I have more contempt for Harris than I do for most Celtic fans. At least we expect treachery from them. Harris is without doubt an enemy within.