Back2BackChampions 31 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I hope Beattie does get another chanceDon't like players we have signed going down as expensive flops, never was fit to make an impact ( although didn't do to great at Blackpool either) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu1993 101 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 dont see Healy being here.I Also think Hemmings may get his chance to prove what hes got this season like Ness and Hutton did this season, hes rated highly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdocherty72 215 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Beattie sorely needs to start hitting the gym trying to turn some of the excess baggage he's carrying into muscle, if he did that and could finish him & any of the strikers Rangers have would be amazing. Think he needs pre-season aswell though, don't think playing against Chelsea will help with that though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 He is not due over here until tomorrow mate according to clyde1 this morning. time will tell I know that mate, but do you think he will bother coming now, if todays developments are true? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I hope Beattie does get another chanceDon't like players we have signed going down as expensive flops, never was fit to make an impact ( although didn't do to great at Blackpool either) I really wanted the big man to make it here, i dont think he got a fair crack of the whip, he was clearly unfit when we played him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,325 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Lafferty has scored 28 goals in 84 games, if that was anyone else people would be saying thats not good enough.Given than probably over half of those games have been played out wide I'd say 1 in 3 is a reasonable return, and he's getting noticeably better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Lafferty has scored 28 goals in 84 games, if that was anyone else people would be saying thats not good enough.That is an impressive stat for a boo boy and someone played out of position for so long.Big Kyle Lafferty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Given than probably over half of those games have been played out wide I'd say 1 in 3 is a reasonable return, and he's getting noticeably better.He gets noticeably better at the end of every season, only to return to mediocrity after the close season. Now would be a good chance to try to recoup a fraction of what he's cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,858 Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 I know that mate, but do you think he will bother coming now, if todays developments are true?TBH if The stories are true I want him no-were near us next year. I want players that play for the club not just for money.One thing to keep in mind tho is that his agent has held more talks with us today. IMO were in the box seat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 TBH if The stories are true I want him no-were near us next year. I want players that play for the club not just for money.One thing to keep in mind tho is that his agent has held more talks with us today. IMO were in the box seatI hope so Kirk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Given than probably over half of those games have been played out wide I'd say 1 in 3 is a reasonable return, and he's getting noticeably better.How many times have we heard this? does playing out of position affect him dribbling past players? does it affect him trying win headers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneRalfRoss 307 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I think this will be a big year for Lafferty. people been saying that for last two years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersAvA92 53 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I don't think Beatts will stay, Healy's lookin doubtful and Ally will wait to see what happens with the lawsuit against Goodie before making a move, give it a month I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,446 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 How many times have we heard this? does playing out of position affect him dribbling past players? does it affect him trying win headers?No but it would probably stop him scoring as many goals, since your stats were goals to games playedNaismith has 24 goals in 126 games, he had about 12 goals in about 80-90 games before this season, he doesn't get the hard time Lafferty seems to get by a lot of peopleLafferty has had a couple of games upfront then dropped then a game on the left wing then dropped then back to left wing dropped back upfront then dropped, how can a player be consistent when he is changing position and dropped every few games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,325 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 How many times have we heard this? does playing out of position affect him dribbling past players? does it affect him trying win headers?Erm, it's a valid point. You mentioned his goal-scoring rate. I offered a rebuttal. How many wingers have you encountered that score more than one in three? Can't say I've seen many. And he isn't a winger.Haven't seen him noticeably deficient at winning headers recently either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irwin Sparkes 97 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 How many times have we heard this? does playing out of position affect him dribbling past players? does it affect him trying win headers?You're seriously arguing that a left winger should score as many goals as a striker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL.I.AM 18 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Whats the big deal with Hemeds agent coming over for talks with Ally and Whyte then the player flying over tomorrow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCKBEAR10 3 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Whats the big deal with Hemeds agent coming over for talks with Ally and Whyte then the player flying over tomorrow?The insinuation from the papers is that he doesnt seem to care about coming over and now wants double the money (to be on par with the spanish interest) according to what the papers have heard. People are being led to believe he is not going to bother coming over.Who knows what is right or wrong, guess we'll just have to wait maybe around 48hrs! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL.I.AM 18 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 The insinuation from the papers is that he doesnt seem to care about coming over and now wants double the money (to be on par with the spanish interest) according to what the papers have heard. People are being led to believe he is not going to bother coming over.Who knows what is right or wrong, guess we'll just have to wait maybe around 48hrs! The most important question is when does the 48 hours begin The sun today sounded like he would be signing soon. Said he was due in Glasgow within 48 hours.. Just kidding 24 hours .. and had quotes from Super Ally sounding confident of signing him. Haven't seen the articles about wanting more money must have passed me by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Buffalo 120 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 punt beattie, sign goodie and hemed. simples Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee-irvine 53 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I think rangers are going about the Goodwillie situation brilliantly, there not rushing in to it the longer it goes without him being sold a 1 million bid at the end of the transfer window and he's ours, no point spending 1.5-2 million just now when its possible to drastically cut his asking price. I don't think signing Hemed will effect the arrival of Goodwillie whatsoever. Hemed is a cheap option that could be a real hit and if he's not then there wont be too many questions asked. Where as we have seen what Goodwillie can do in the league so it's a completely different situation in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 You're seriously arguing that a left winger should score as many goals as a striker?I've always saw him on the left wing, so i don't class him as a striker. Good players should be able to play anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidelad 34 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Hopefully lafferty gets punted too, simply not Rangers classAre you nuts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I think rangers are going about the Goodwillie situation brilliantly, there not rushing in to it the longer it goes without him being sold a 1 million bid at the end of the transfer window and he's ours, no point spending 1.5-2 million just now when its possible to drastically cut his asking price. I don't think signing Hemed will effect the arrival of Goodwillie whatsoever. Hemed is a cheap option that could be a real hit and if he's not then there wont be too many questions asked. Where as we have seen what Goodwillie can do in the league so it's a completely different situation in my opinion.Any slower, and we will be lucky if there here for the start of pre season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu1993 101 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 If Hemed signs then I'd hope we spend the money on areas of the team other than up front! We should sign a ridiculous number of players just because we have some money. Let's spend wisely.Well you are the one who is doing the negotiations are you not Kev ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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