54andcounting 627 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 According to that wee tim (Neal something ) on the BBC, ticketus wish to work with any consortium trying to take us over and invest money in us!What do you think?Trying to save the 24m deal with CW.Or genuine investment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemdale1873 167 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 According to that wee tim (Neal something ) on the BBC, ticketus wish to work with any consortium trying to take us over and invest money in us!What do you think?Trying to save the 24m deal with CW.Or genuine investment. More about saving thier own money tbh.Rangers go under and they would lose every penny they have paid out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,043 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 More about saving thier own money tbh.Rangers go under and they would lose every penny they have paid out.no they wouldnt, they have guarantees Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbryce 63 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 no they wouldnt, they have guarantees A guarantee is only as good as the person making it. Does Craig Whyte have any actual assets to back his alleged guarantee? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 no they wouldnt, they have guarantees they are in a panic in case we are liquidated. they know what their guarantees are worth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeAndMyWeePalJoe 17 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 no they wouldnt, they have guarantees I'm not sure how solid any guarantees previously received are looking to them now. I have to say I detected some angst in their statement as reported by the Guardian ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damien1 29 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Rangers don't owe Ticketus money. CW does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIESEL RFC 32 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 A guarantee is only as good as the person making it. Does Craig Whyte have any actual assets to back his alleged guarantee?Yes ibrox and murray park Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,043 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Yes ibrox and murray parksurely he couldnt have used them at the time of the deal as the assets werent his Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVB 2,560 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 surely he couldnt have used them at the time of the deal as the assets werent his20 pager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,043 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 20 pager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 According to that wee tim (Neal something ) on the BBC, ticketus wish to work with any consortium trying to take us over and invest money in us!What do you think?Trying to save the 24m deal with CW.Or genuine investment.Maybe Craig Whyte's end game reaching a conclusion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowP113 2 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 but hey.....its craig whyte Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54andcounting 627 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Reading between the lines, if we can not get out of the deal between CW and Ticketus then, I think ticketus are looking to renegotiate the deal maybe over alonger period and less % of the ST money ( 30-40% per season ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 whyte has security against ibrox and Murray park. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemdale1873 167 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 no they wouldnt, they have guarantees Aye a guarantee to one of Whytes imaginary companies.The worst happens to us and whyte just liquidates the company who owe the money and walks away paying nothing back. I think ticketus just like Rangers fc have been scammed to epic proprtions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justiston 91 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Am I wrong, but a potential outcome is; whyte flogged 3/4 years of ST money, and used the advance to get Lloyds out the way, and we could end up owing ticketus nothing, and then in a sence wiping off the Lloyds debt with money that doesn't exist...All very confusing for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemdale1873 167 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Am I wrong, but a potential outcome is; whyte flogged 3/4 years of ST money, and used the advance to get Lloyds out the way, and we could end up owing ticketus nothing, and then in a sence wiping off the Lloyds debt with money that doesn't exist...Think that could be Whytes plan.Borrow the money from ticketus to pay off Lloyds,force Rangers into liquidation by not paying income tax which then makes the ticketus deal void after that he liquidates the company that has underwritten the original ticketus deal and walks off leaving a pile of angry creditors behind.One things for sure ticketus are going to lose big time in this. Even a takeover would probably see them having to write off at least 50% of the deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50ShadesofBlue 667 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Investing £5M and cover the short fall would guarantee our survival and ensure they receive their ticket money. Seeing Rangers go bust etc and then trying to recoup the money from CW would no doubt see his company also go into administration and lose out on their £24M. Makes sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justiston 91 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Think that could be Whytes plan.Borrow the money from ticketus to pay off Lloyds,force Rangers into liquidation by not paying income tax which then makes the ticketus deal void after that he liquidates the company that has underwritten the original ticketus deal and walks off leaving a pile of angry creditors behind.One things for sure ticketus are going to lose big time in this. Even a takeover would probably see them having to write off at least 50% of the deal.Just don't understand their logic. They knew we had troubles with HMRC, obviously looked into Whytes background (which is nothing special, and at worst "dodgey") yet still gave him the money.Fools be them I say, cheers for the £24 mil Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemdale1873 167 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Just don't understand their logic. They knew we had troubles with HMRC, obviously looked into Whytes background (which is nothing special, and at worst "dodgey") yet still gave him the money.Fools be them I say, cheers for the £24 mil Think they're logic was total and utter greed tbh, they probably thought the tax case against Ranagers would be the only problem and there was a good chance we would come through that and move on.This ticketus mob have done a lot of damage to football clubs in the past with their wonga.com crazy type loans and high interest rates so it will be good to see them getting some pay back if as it now looks likely they wont get much if anything back.The only real way out for them now would be to become part of a consortium to buy Rangers and hope to claw money back in the years to come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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