dougied123 222 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I think he's refering to the part of the history where some supporters seem to think you have to be a bigot in order to be a supporter of this club. Lol. I have plenty of evidence that you don't.Ive certainly never seen anywhere that you have to be a bigot, though I have seen plenty of bigoted behaviour. More recently most of this has been from other people in Scotland against our club, fans, press, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougied123 222 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I agree the thread should have been closed at least a page ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougied123 222 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Hows this guy got so many positive reps? If people are so unhappy about Loyalist songs, God Save the Queen and Unionism then support someone else. Its not as if we hid it from people for years. People knew what they were getting when they started supporting Rangers.So many people want to change our club and forget how we got here! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebus197 20 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 I'm done anyway guys. (For the night at least). It's interesting that most of you (although I'm no longer convinced the 'majority') just don't get it. If you had half a brain cell to share between you, you would have worked it out that the way to win is not to play the game. (To quote a favourite movie of mine). We are and have been widely despised throughout a lot of Scottish football because we (along with 'that other team') have developed a reputation as being a bigoted club with a significant minority of really quite unsavoury fan support.We have not made a good go of winning friends in the past. The evidence is all around for all to see. I stick by my original comment. We have an opportunity to change that. There's nobody left to hate. Except maybe the SFA and the SPL. But we get to have the pleasure of getting on with playing football while we watch from a safe distance while hopefully these guys all implode. What I'm saying is we can just make it about fun and football and we don't have to care about any of that crap any more.The best way we can win is to give these guys nothing to hate. To carry ourself with pride and dignity all the way back to the top. I'm not sure 3 years would be long enough for us to forget about Celtic, or for them to forget about us. But there's no gurantee that in 3 years Celtic will still even be there, or be playing in a Scottish league. I have it on good information that they are shortly about to post their biggest annual loss in their history. They're scratching their heads over why this is happening, but the reality is our departure from the SPL has hurt them hugely too.So the way I look at it, it's a divorce. I would almost be happy to see Rangers never play in the SPL again, at least not under the current structure and management of the SFA and SPL. If that means the divorce becomes permanent, then so be it. The fan base and the support for this club clearly aren't going anywhere.I just think we can build something good out of this. Something even better than we had before. And if that means we ditch all of the hatred and bigotry too, then all the better.I don't apologise for hoping for something better, or for holding our fans to a higher standard than the opposition, because that's exactly how we prove that we are better than them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack1690 793 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I'm done anyway guys. (For the night at least). It's interesting that most of you (although I'm no longer convinced the 'majority') just don't get it. If you had half a brain cell to share between you, you would have worked it out that the way to win is not to play the game. (To quote a favourite movie of mine). We are and have been widely despised throughout a lot of Scottish football because we (along with 'that other team') have developed a reputation as being a bigoted club with a significant minority of really quite unsavoury fan support.We have not made a good go of winning friends in the past. The evidence is all around for all to see. I stick by my original comment. We have an opportunity to change that. There's nobody left to hate. Except maybe the SFA and the SPL. But we get to have the pleasure of getting on with playing football while we watch from a safe distance while hopefully these guys all implode. What I'm saying is we can just make it about fun and football and we don't have to care about any of that crap any more.The best way we can win is to give these guys nothing to hate. To carry ourself with pride and dignity all the way back to the top. I'm not sure 3 years would be long enough for us to forget about Celtic, or for them to forget about us. But there's no gurantee that in 3 years Celtic will still even be there, or be playing in a Scottish league. I have it on good information that they are shortly about to post their biggest annual loss in their history. They're scratching their heads over why this is happening, but the reality is our departure from the SPL has hurt them hugely too.So the way I look at it, it's a divorce. I would almost be happy to see Rangers never play in the SPL again, at least not under the current structure and management of the SFA and SPL. If that means the divorce becomes permanent, then so be it. The fan base and the support for this club clearly aren't going anywhere.I just think we can build something good out of this. Something even better than we had before. And if that means we ditch all of the hatred and bigotry too, then all the better.I don't apologise for hoping for something better, or for holding our fans to a higher standard than the opposition, because that's exactly how we prove that we are better than them.Wank Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebus197 20 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 Hows this guy got so many positive reps? If people are so unhappy about Loyalist songs, God Save the Queen and Unionism then support someone else. Its not as if we hid it from people for years. People knew what they were getting when they started supporting Rangers.Because Sir, while a minority of supporters on here have done their damdest to sink me on this thread, I am clearly not alone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebus197 20 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 WankI hope you enjoyed it. Need a hankie? Lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEXYSC 23 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 . (To quote a favourite movie of mine). Is the movie "honey I've buggered our kids!" Fuck off timmy! Please divorce yourself from this forum! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Stevens Fan Club 42 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I hope you enjoyed it. Need a hankie? Lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glesgabear81 24 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Hows this guy got so many positive reps? If people are so unhappy about Loyalist songs, God Save the Queen and Unionism then support someone else. Its not as if we hid it from people for years. People knew what they were getting when they started supporting Rangers.Does your political and religious beliefs define which team you support or does which team you support define your political and religious beliefs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblybear 258 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Is what you need,and anymore of your shite , there will be a Q to do it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty1872 45 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I get what you're saying but at times it can be a non-serious issue. Me and my mates (Rangers and Celtic fans) can have a laugh about the names each set of fans gets called at times. It's not something that we would say to each other in a serious sense and is taken as a joke (which it is). I see where you're coming from and I do agree these things can get serious occasionally but I don't think it's as big a problem as it's made out to be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Stevens Fan Club 42 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I get what you're saying but at times it can be a non-serious issue. Me and my mates (Rangers and Celtic fans) can have a laugh about the names each set of fans gets called at times. It's not something that we would say to each other in a serious sense and is taken as a joke (which it is). I see where you're coming from and I do agree these things can get serious occasionally but I don't think it's as big a problem as it's made out to be.It's made quite a few on here to start foaming at the mouth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayq81 231 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Is what you need,and anymore of your shite , there will be a Q to do it! Aye a rayQ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblybear 258 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Does your political and religious beliefs define which team you support or does which team you support define your political and religious beliefs?Very surprised you have to ask that question on here, maybe you should ask bluepeter9? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebus197 20 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 Does your political and religious beliefs define which team you support or does which team you support define your political and religious beliefs?Now now, That won't do. Play fair. You're raising the tone of the debate! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,158 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices"Does this not define the OP? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebus197 20 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices"Does this not define the OP?I freely confess to being intollerant of bigots.From all walks of life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebus197 20 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 Lol, anyway this thread gives a whole new meaning to the term 'bear baiting' ... Albeit by a fellow bear ... "Bears against bigotry." You have to admit it has a ring to it ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,158 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I freely confess to being predudiced agaist bigots.From all walks of life.Sorry m8 but that makes you a bigot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george3 8 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Your a fucking taig no doubt, get this cunt bannedUnbelievable! What a div! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayq81 231 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Unbelievable! What a div!Fuck off you wanker Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEXYSC 23 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I'm done anyway guys. (For the night at least).Not only are you a tit but your a fucking liar as well! Bedtime Timothy! Now please fuck off before I kick fuck out of my fridge! F*ck the pope. How does that sit with your ethos? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayq81 231 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Unbelievable! What a div!And have a neg rep back ya fucking fool Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebus197 20 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 Sorry m8 but that makes you a bigot.Sorry mate. That makes you an idiot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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