ray 105 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Rangers class captain required. refer to history for examples of calibre required, if Ally is unable to man manage to find one he won't mind us giving him a helping hand.I suggest moving Jig to CH permanently and letting him do the arse kicking on the pitch........you up for it Jig ?All other applicants to be scrutinised and considered, suggestions here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 1,011 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Yes please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Who Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senna 735 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Jig up front is actually working, and I don't think that'd help any to disrupt the backline further. Need to light a fire under Black away from home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray 105 Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 Who Doctor... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I do not believe McCulloch is correct for captain, he should have been booting balls at half time with a reaction second half which we never saw. He must not move back to defence either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray 105 Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 I do not believe McCulloch is correct for captain, he should have been booting balls at half time with a reaction second half which we never saw. He must not move back to defence either.Silly me, I thought it was McCoist's job to boot baws at half time, how wrong can I be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Silly me, I thought it was McCoist's job to boot baws at half time, how wrong can I be. I have been in many dressing rooms, it is both their jobs, in fact the coaches should be in on it too and the players themselves should be ashamed of playing like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray 105 Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 I have been in many dressing rooms, it is both their jobs, in fact the coaches should be in on it too and the players themselves should be ashamed of playing like that.I get it, its nobodies fault it's a collective thing, everyone gets a shot of passing the buck rather than any one individual take responsibility, funny thing is even when I got paid for playing the responsibility was the managers, ah the modern game they've confused it with rocket science. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I get it, its nobodies fault it's a collective thing, everyone gets a shot of passing the buck rather than any one individual take responsibility, funny thing is even when I got paid for playing the responsibility was the managers, ah the modern game they've confused it with rocket science.The buck ultimately stops with the manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Oh to have a player in that mould.But we can't sign anybody, even if players like that were still around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,772 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 and the players themselves should be ashamed of playing like that.apparently they were after the berwick game, the shame obviously only lasted until payday Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray 105 Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 As it is the managers to select the right man to convey his instructions on the pitch and too pull players up and together when required, Coisty better get it sorted quick or it could end up costing him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,924 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 We have what we have in house until our transfer embargo ends, so our leader will have to emerge from the players on our books. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I get it, its nobodies fault it's a collective thing, everyone gets a shot of passing the buck rather than any one individual take responsibility, funny thing is even when I got paid for playing the responsibility was the managers, ah the modern game they've confused it with rocket science.It would really depend on what level you played at and when...But the concept of the manager taking the blame for everything is a modern philosophy brought on by the financial side of the game and the lack of patience with the modern football fan and owner...I have never played professionally but after a poor performance the blame was always with us as players first and foremost not the captain or the gaffer. Mcculloch may not be the greatest Rangers captain of all time but at the moment he is unquestionably the best we have...I understand your frustration like everyone else's but we need to gain a sense of perspective on our current situation. Today was shit and it did seem like we lacked any leadership on or off the pitch when the going got tough to turn/change things around but now is not the time for questioning the likes of Mcculloch or Mccoist who have done more than anyone for us to still be the great club we are, its a time for patience and hopefully a change in philosophy for training and approaching games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray 105 Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 It would really depend on what level you played at and when...But the concept of the manager taking the blame for everything is a modern philosophy brought on by the financial side of the game and the lack of patience with the modern football fan and owner...I have never played professionally but after a poor performance the blame was always with us as players first and foremost not the captain or the gaffer. Mcculloch may not be the greatest Rangers captain of all time but at the moment he is unquestionably the best we have...I understand your frustration like everyone else's but we need to gain a sense of perspective on our current situation. Today was shit and it did seem like we lacked any leadership on or off the pitch when the going got tough to turn/change things around but now is not the time for questioning the likes of Mcculloch or Mccoist who have done more than anyone for us to still be the great club we are, its a time for patience and hopefully a change in philosophy for training and approaching games.Patience my fuckin arse, if you can't see the absurdity of Annan holding The Rangers to a draw, we should turn Auchenhowie back into farmland and put the padlocks on the Ibrox gates, it is like a Ferrari against a bike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 apparently they were after the berwick game, the shame obviously only lasted until payday I do not believe they truly were. They may have been a little embarrassed by the result but i doubt they cared so much to be ashamed of themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 As it is the managers to select the right man to convey his instructions on the pitch and too pull players up and together when required, Coisty better get it sorted quick or it could end up costing him.We don't have anyone like that. Certainly not big Lee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Patience my fuckin arse, if you can't see the absurdity of Annan holding The Rangers to a draw, we should turn Auchenhowie back into farmland and put the padlocks on the Ibrox gates, it is like a Ferrari against a bike.If you have played at a decent level mate you will know football doesn't work like that. I accept that as a full-time team training everyday and getting paid more than the whole division put together there is absolutely no excuse for the abject performances away from home so far. I dont buy into this whole "cup final" mentality...I guarantee that Annan, Peterhead etc will have played better this season than they did against us. We do need to change things from top to bottom and I would like to see a new 1st team coach come in with some fresh ideas but what good does it do at the moment making knee-jerk decisions 5 games into a season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcodebear 85 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Rangers class captain required. refer to history for examples of calibre required, if Ally is unable to man manage to find one he won't mind us giving him a helping hand.I suggest moving Jig to CH permanently and letting him do the arse kicking on the pitch........you up for it Jig ?All other applicants to be scrutinised and considered, suggestions here.Thank fuck you aren't the Manager.It's bad enough that it's McCoist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray 105 Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 If you have played at a decent level mate you will know football doesn't work like that. I accept that as a full-time team training everyday and getting paid more than the whole division put together there is absolutely no excuse for the abject performances away from home so far. I dont buy into this whole "cup final" mentality...I guarantee that Annan, Peterhead etc will have played better this season than they did against us. We do need to change things from top to bottom and I would like to see a new 1st team coach come in with some fresh ideas but what good does it do at the moment making knee-jerk decisions 5 games into a season.FFS the reason there is different divisions is that is exactly how fitba' works, with the odd giant killing thrown in, just like the good book and if nothing else we are giants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 FFS the reason there is different divisions is that is exactly how fitba' works, with the odd giant killing thrown in, just like the good book and if nothing else we are giants. Mate bear in mind I am 100% agreeing with you that the performances have not been good enough and even with the players we have lost their is no excuse based on the squad and resources we have in comparison to the likes of Annan. We should always be beating a team like that.My point is that having the best training facilities, the best paid players or the biggest support doesnt guarantee anything unless the attitude is right and thats the concern for me..and that comes from within, mccoist can be blamed for the tactical side of things and the likes of Jig should maybe do more to inspire/motivate on the park but if each individual doesnt approach each game in the right way then none of that matters. I get the impression some of these guys are turning up at these wee grounds and switching off.What do you suggest we do then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray 105 Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 Mate bear in mind I am 100% agreeing with you that the performances have not been good enough and even with the players we have lost their is no excuse based on the squad and resources we have in comparison to the likes of Annan. We should always be beating a team like that.My point is that having the best training facilities, the best paid players or the biggest support doesnt guarantee anything unless the attitude is right and thats the concern for me..and that comes from within, mccoist can be blamed for the tactical side of things and the likes of Jig should maybe do more to inspire/motivate on the park but if each individual doesnt approach each game in the right way then none of that matters. I get the impression some of these guys are turning up at these wee grounds and switching off.What do you suggest we do then?That's easy read the OP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray 105 Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 Thank fuck you aren't the Manager.It's bad enough that it's McCoist. Aye right ya spanner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Patience my fuckin arse, if you can't see the absurdity of Annan holding The Rangers to a draw, we should turn Auchenhowie back into farmland and put the padlocks on the Ibrox gates, it is like a Ferrari against a bike.On this case ferrari's engine bust!!! Great point though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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