siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 So whether you agree with my point of vuew or not, are you telling me you are happy with the board and the job they are doing?So all your assertions have been proven to be factually incorrect but you still think you are right???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 You do really talk a load of shite.Who the feck do you think he is trying to 'save a few million', himself?'He is the only winner'............Yeah, a guy who spunked £20m on the team he loves.The 'very existence of the club' will be decided by one thing, how far this bunch of charlatans can push the support to fill their own trough.One thing for sure, it wont be to the financial benifit of our club !!!Fact he did not invest in Rangers football club.Fact - he invested in one of Sir Davids business ventures.Unknown - was any of that money invested in the football club?Unknown - how much of the money did he get back without the knowledge of SARS? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBear 222 Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 So all your assertions have been proven to be factually incorrect but you still think you are right????Did i say that? I am man enough to admit when i am wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Did i say that? I am man enough to admit when i am wrong.good for you, well done so we can put these ridiculous claims to bed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Much like the cries for Ally to be given a full season in charge where he has no off field nonsense to deal with, I would argue that this board has done nothing that strips them of the right to have the same chance.Get the ground filled. Get the strips and merchandise bought.If they fulfil the promise that their CV's indicate they have then this time next year we could be in a very good position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gersandy 594 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 There was only 31,000 at Ibrox yesterday . That's a lot of 'union of fannies 'staying away . Too much hypocrisy creeping into our supportI think 31000 is still a decent crowd. Its alot more than most clubs in scotland, if not the UK can attract. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 My thoughts on this, i agree whats the point changing the Board, they would only put another one in But, why arent any of them under writting the shares???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I think 31000 is still a decent crowd. Its alot more than most clubs in scotland, if not the UK can attract.Seems the stay away fans are split into two camps 1) people staying away for ideological reasons (the blue tims) while the second camp are sick of the substandard football on offer.In the last four games we have improved our passing, scored a higher average number of goals and yesterday proved we have the bottle for a fight. If the onfield performances continue to improve then I suspect (hope) the disillusioned football fans will find their way back.As for the ideologues well I'd be happy if Houston and his ilk never set foot in Ibrox again.And yes eejay a good crowd but as my report card used to say 'could do better'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeneily 1,460 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 When I go into a distressed business for a hopeful turnaround the first thing I look at is "dubious contracts".For example, it's not unusual to find a company paying £100,000 a year for photocopiers which should be £10,000On every occasion you find that a buyer, director of shareholder acts as a consultant to the photocopier company for a fee of £50,000 a year via a sole trader venture not visible during companies house searches.Everything legal and above board in terms of accounting and tax matters but certainly hidden from the other stakeholders.I wonder if this is what Wallace was referring to in his Onerous Contracts comment in the review. It's a very good way for directors and shareholders to get plenty of money out the company without it being obvious who is ultimately benefiting from 3rd party arrangement. In a football club I would be looking at ground keeping , transfer fees, player wages (fees to management) etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,860 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 You do really talk a load of shite.Who the feck do you think he is trying to 'save a few million', himself?'He is the only winner'............Yeah, a guy who spunked £20m on the team he loves.The 'very existence of the club' will be decided by one thing, how far this bunch of charlatans can push the support to fill their own trough.One thing for sure, it wont be to the financial benifit of our club !!!Who is "filling their own trough"? Clear this up for everybody. Who is getting what? How did King plough in the £20m ? Show me where in the accounts I can find this "gift". I have looked and the only money I see in the old accounts going in was in loans. I still have all the old accounts covering King's time at Ibrox. While you are on about King and his plans can you post on here exactly what these plans are? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Who is "filling their own trough"? Clear this up for everybody. Who is getting what? How did King plough in the £20m ? Show me where in the accounts I can find this "gift". I have looked and the only money I see in the old accounts going in was in loans. I still have all the old accounts covering King's time at Ibrox. While you are on about King and his plans can you post on here exactly what these plans are?Don't hold your breath Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 When I go into a distressed business for a hopeful turnaround the first thing I look at is "dubious contracts".For example, it's not unusual to find a company paying £100,000 a year for photocopiers which should be £10,000On every occasion you find that a buyer, director of shareholder acts as a consultant to the photocopier company for a fee of £50,000 a year via a sole trader venture not visible during companies house searches.Everything legal and above board in terms of accounting and tax matters but certainly hidden from the other stakeholders.I wonder if this is what Wallace was referring to in his Onerous Contracts comment in the review. It's a very good way for directors and shareholders to get plenty of money out the company without it being obvious who is ultimately benefiting from 3rd party arrangement. In a football club I would be looking at ground keeping , transfer fees, player wages (fees to management) etc.This will be going on at most clubs. Even clubs that win everything, all the time.So how does it hurt us in our quest to gain the top spot, as that seems to be the underlying contention here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetson 16 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Who is "filling their own trough"? Clear this up for everybody. Who is getting what? How did King plough in the £20m ? Show me where in the accounts I can find this "gift". I have looked and the only money I see in the old accounts going in was in loans. I still have all the old accounts covering King's time at Ibrox. While you are on about King and his plans can you post on here exactly what these plans are?Ok JCDBigBear, Lets start with Graham Wallacehttp://www.<No links to this website>/sport/football/football-news/rangers-chief-executive-graham-wallace-4137899Are you advocating he is worthy of this, or indeed, ANY bonus?What does it matter whether Dave King invested, gave or loaned £20m.Who else seems willing to 'invest' ANY millions?Why the hard on for Dave King as opposed to Reg & Stan?No, I cant post on here exactly what any plans Dave King may have.I will counter you with: Do you know what POSITIVE plans the present incumbents have for the advancement of Rangers Football Club? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 My thoughts on this, i agree whats the point changing the Board, they would only put another one in But, why arent any of them under writting the shares????Maybe they've all had a talk and are planing on taking up the offer and see no need to underwrite it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetson 16 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Don't hold your breathI'll try to answer ANY question or explain my own 'opinion' for what it's worth Brightside. It's called having an open mindI am also open to suggestion and/or persuasion, as opposed to throwing 12 year old playground insults like 'Union of Fannies'around when I dont get my own way! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Do we know what Wallace's bonus is contingent upon?How can we answer if he is worth it when we don't know what it's for?It could be for keeping the toilets clean or it could be for cutting cost base.We don't know so going off half cocked in a rage over it seems a bit pointless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetson 16 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Do we know what Wallace's bonus is contingent upon?How can we answer if he is worth it when we don't know what it's for?It could be for keeping the toilets clean or it could be for cutting cost base.We don't know so going off half cocked in a rage over it seems a bit pointless.Does it really matter what it's for?The fact we require £4m to keep the lights on tells me it should be the LAST of his concerns.Unless he is only in it to feed at the trough Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATBB 1,524 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Same posts everyday, just re-worded differently, and posted by different people. Although I can't exactly say anything about that, because really; what is there to be positive about? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Does it really matter what it's for?The fact we require £4m to keep the lights on tells me it should be the LAST of his concerns.Unless he is only in it to feed at the trough You're the one asking if he is worth it. How can we know if he's worth the bonus if we don't know what the bonus is for?Do you even read what you're posting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetson 16 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 You're the one asking if he is worth it. How can we know if he's worth the bonus if we don't know what the bonus is for?Do you even read what you're posting?Read you OWN posts.I'm not asking if he's worth it.A BLIND MAN ON HORSEBACK CAN SEE HE'S NOT WORTH IT FFS.'How can we know if he's worth the bonus'.................Jesus wept, no wonder were in the state were in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri 23 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Read you OWN posts.I'm not asking if he's worth it.A BLIND MAN ON HORSEBACK CAN SEE HE'S NOT WORTH IT FFS.'How can we know if he's worth the bonus'.................Jesus wept, no wonder were in the state were in. Why is he not worth it? Who do you want to replace him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Does it really matter what it's for?The fact we require £4m to keep the lights on tells me it should be the LAST of his concerns.Unless he is only in it to feed at the trough Like Ally? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robespierre 589 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Why is he not worth it? Who do you want to replace him.Because he's doing fuck all to make our club better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri 23 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Because he's doing fuck all to make our club better.Apologies. Appreciate you letting me know.Can you give me the EXACT list of everything Wallace had done since day 1 go ensure I agree he has done fuck all. Seeing as you are so in the know... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkhorse78 4 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 This board has failed and the only ones that are defending them are doing so because they don't like a certain group or person . They have gave a manger money that we don't have ! We are getting run into the ground by these clowns . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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