The Dude 20,026 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Copland bear said: Again someone should inform UEFA that the billy boys is offensive by law not secterian. To say it's secterian as the media constantly do is just lies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuistraHairDo 12,514 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, The Dude said: This is the problem. who are the “certain section of people” who think that? and why are the Appeal Court agreeing? there are American fenians, English fenians Scottish fenians all over the world all different religions and faiths. I hate all of them. I am loyal to the crown. The crown these cunts would have abolished. Fuck the lot of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, HuistraHairDo said: This is the problem. who are the “certain section of people” who think that? and why are the Appeal Court agreeing? there are American fenians, English fenians Scottish fenians all over the world all different religions and faiths. I hate all of them. I am loyal to the crown. The crown these cunts would have abolished. Fuck the lot of them. Dont they represent the Crown? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuistraHairDo 12,514 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Dont they represent the Crown? if you are on about the Appeal court well someone needs to educate them on what a fenian is, because their definition is wrong. Copland bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, HuistraHairDo said: if you are on about the Appeal court well someone needs to educate them on what a fenian is, because their definition is wrong. On what basis? And what happened to the loyalty you were professing a minute ago? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuistraHairDo 12,514 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, The Dude said: On what basis? And what happened to the loyalty you were professing a minute ago? You answer my questions I’ll answer yours Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, HuistraHairDo said: You answer my questions I’ll answer yours You never asked one. 🤔 16 minutes ago, HuistraHairDo said: if you are on about the Appeal court well someone needs to educate them on what a fenian is, because their definition is wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuistraHairDo 12,514 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, The Dude said: You never asked one. 🤔 My first quote to you. the one you blatantly left out the one you have your wee sly dig Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, HuistraHairDo said: My first quote to you. the one you blatantly left out the one you have your wee sly dig You want me to explain why the Appeals court agree fenian is sometimes used as a derogatory term for catholics? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,904 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, HuistraHairDo said: This is the problem. who are the “certain section of people” who think that? and why are the Appeal Court agreeing? there are American fenians, English fenians Scottish fenians all over the world all different religions and faiths. I hate all of them. I am loyal to the crown. The crown these cunts would have abolished. Fuck the lot of them. 1 hour ago, The Dude said: Dont they represent the Crown? Justice system is a farce from top to bottom. The acceptance of this is all part of the appeasement to the RC community. Watched a thing a few years back about the new world order. Now I don't really believe in that conspiracy, but there was a guy in the 60s who predicted that in the 1990s onwards minorities or perceived minorities such as race, religion and sexes would appear to get more rights than the existing dominant section of society. The reason behind this was to prepare humanity for a one world government by breaking down barriers between sections of society. Scary as fuck if true. But it does seem to be happening. Now what would happen if one section of society became offended by the use of the word H**. Would that be treated the same way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuistraHairDo 12,514 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 33 minutes ago, The Dude said: You want me to explain why the Appeals court agree fenian is sometimes used as a derogatory term for catholics? It’s not “sometimes” tho is it? Fenian does not mean catholic/ Irish that’s the bottom line. its the way it’s been worded, you are not telling me someone a lot wiser than me could not take the Appeals court to task over the wording. It’s bollocks. Ah fuck it you only come on here to goad folk, someone like you has a chance to get your voice out there but you choose to be a sports journalist only ,fair enough if all you aspire to be is on a par with chick young ffs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 2 hours ago, The Dude said: On what basis? And what happened to the loyalty you were professing a minute ago? On the basis when we sing fenian we are talking about the days of the brotherhood. That was always the true defination in the English language. You can be a Protestant or a catholic so being a fenian is not just the one religion .. You with all your fancy words etc should know this ,. But our haters are telling Uefa that it will s aimed at catholics,. So are they saying no Protestants support their team and support the IRA? I know a few . So what you are saying it's okay to call a Protestant a fenian bastard but not a catholic ? How does that work in a court of law ? As I said it's an offensive song secterian as the media seems to now dub it as it suits their agenda against us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, HuistraHairDo said: It’s not “sometimes” tho is it? Fenian does not mean catholic/ Irish that’s the bottom line. its the way it’s been worded, you are not telling me someone a lot wiser than me could not take the Appeals court to task over the wording. It’s bollocks. Ah fuck it you only come on here to goad folk, someone like you has a chance to get your voice out there but you choose to be a sports journalist only ,fair enough if all you aspire to be is on a par with chick young ffs. It only needs to be sometimes. Ive heard it enough on my own from people to see where that perception comes from. Youre right on one bit though, I did choose to 'only' be a football journalist. God forbid I want to build a career around doing something I'm passionate about and sharing that with other people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, Copland bear said: On the basis when we sing fenian we are talking about the days of the brotherhood. That was always the true defination in the English language. You can be a Protestant or a catholic so being a fenian is not just the one religion .. You with all your fancy words etc should know this ,. But our haters are telling Uefa that it will s aimed at catholics,. So are they saying no Protestants support their team and support the IRA? I know a few . So what you are saying it's okay to call a Protestant a fenian bastard but not a catholic ? How does that work in a court of law ? As I said it's an offensive song secterian as the media seems to now dub it as it suits their agenda against us. Im sorry, but Im not having that we're singing about an American group that ceased to exist to any meaningful extent before Rangers Football Club came into existence and formally disbanded in 1880. If I call someone a fenian bastards, get arrested and go to court only to discover that 'victim' is in fact protestant then it doesnt make any difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 3 hours ago, The Dude said: A fenian was in the brotherhood, you can be a Protestant and be a fenian , Protestants like Catholics believe in things like a United Ireland and destroy the UK government, In fact I know a few Protestants who think like that. So the defination of fenian is wrong ? Is this an SNP abbreviation of the word fenian ? My question to you the law and Uefa , You are all saying I can call a Protestant a fenian bastard then ? And that would be okay? but if he is catholic then that changes everything? Why should that change facts that a fenian does not mean catholic and a fenian bastard is just that A fenian bastard and not a catholic bastard which are 2 different things completely. So Uefa are dealing with us on a word they don't have a clue on,. TBB in Scotland is not illegal it's offensive because the word blood is in it after fenian, They are now saying we can't use bastard after fenian ? Yet De Boer was all the orange bastards when Ajax was at the beggerdome on European duty? I never heard that celtic park had part of it closed and they sung it the whole bloody game. Double standards that maybe you should highlight from Uefa and why we feel we are a scapegoat Please lets go by the law on the land and call it offensive and to have part of your stadium shut down Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, The Dude said: Im sorry, but Im not having that we're singing about an American group that ceased to exist to any meaningful extent before Rangers Football Club came into existence and formally disbanded in 1880. If I call someone a fenian bastards, get arrested and go to court only to discover that 'victim' is in fact protestant then it doesnt make any difference. Why would it not make a diffrence he's a Protestant? You are saying it's anti catholic. Well I'm telling you that we never grew up singing it thinking anything of Billy Fullerton and I'm from the east end and my da stayed in Bridgeton most of his days. I had never heard of him like most people u til our haters wanted TBB banned. And to say I am not singing about the brotherhood? Are you a mind reader or something ? I had an education unlike the easily offended who now make up the meaning of words . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,268 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 It’s a generalisation that all celtic fans are terrorist supporters. Of course it was originally the brotherhood, but now it’s really about IRA supporters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, The Dude said: You want me to explain why the Appeals court agree fenian is sometimes used as a derogatory term for catholics? Yes and sometimes it's Protestant. So it's not exclusively catholic as Uefa as saying Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuistraHairDo 12,514 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 41 minutes ago, The Dude said: It only needs to be sometimes. Ive heard it enough on my own from people to see where that perception comes from. Youre right on one bit though, I did choose to 'only' be a football journalist. God forbid I want to build a career around doing something I'm passionate about and sharing that with other people. Perception? What if you are of the perception that you had two sons that were in the army and 1 was killed by the IRA and one was killed by let’s say ... ISIS I know I would hate the cunts who killed them. Am I not allowed to hate people for the atrocities these ppl have committed? Why can I not hate these ppl and voice it? Why can’t I hate the folk that revel in it? ie half the piggery Fenian Al Queada bastards!🤣 As I said I will conform to the crown which the Appeal court as you say is part of and I’ll bide by this flawed law for the good of the club, doesn’t mean we shouldn’t fight it. Rangers fans are not Racist, we are a diverse bunch which I would say most don’t give a flying fuck about faith nowadays. But the majority hate fenians for the crimes they have committed to our country not a religious belief. magic8ball 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 39 minutes ago, Copland bear said: Yes and sometimes it's Protestant. So it's not exclusively catholic as Uefa as saying They aren't though. Nowhere have they. All that's been done is they've decided that it also refers to a 'protected' group (in line with the laws of the land) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaydubya11 580 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Up to our knees in fenian blood not offensive until 2005. Now in these troubled times everything is sectarian or racist or discriminatory...unless of course you shout zombie H** orange bastard...thats deemed inoffensive ...it doesn't bother me in the slightest of course...but maybe we should run to Uefa about it...maybe the Snp will back our corner ? 🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Ears must be more sensitive than arses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellshill_Bear 1,105 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 On 27/08/2019 at 17:58, magic8ball said: Covering it up to protect the name of the club is a different matter Agreed mate. But still not a football issue punishable by uefa. this is like an argument with my mrs, when I pull her up for something and she says “aye but mind that time you lied in 2009” magic8ball 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,904 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Bellshill_Bear said: Agreed mate. But still not a football issue punishable by uefa. this is like an argument with my mrs, when I pull her up for something and she says “aye but mind that time you lied in 2009” Lieswell is still covering it up. Shamelessly too. And has a position within uefa Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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