NeoGeo7 10,515 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Lets ignore the manager in charge, what is the bare minimum for the first 6 games leading up to the scum game? Can we accept being behind them before we play and if so by how much? For me dropping any more than 2 points is a failure in our first 6 games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: I'm not going to boo him or anything but for me he's nowhere near good enough. The manager is the most important employee in the club. Players can flourish or stagnate depending on his attributes. A clear example is Delia/Rodgers. Rodgers is on big money - allegedly around 3m a year but i consider that an investment because all he has to do is to develop/improve one player and flog him to the prem - Delia couldnt, he can. I dont think Pedro can either. Mcinnes or Moyes for me Last season Moyes looked to me like a man who's best years in management where well behind him. I think it's looking inevitable that one day McIness will one day be manager of Rangers; unless of course something would happen to the club, in terms of investment, that would allow us to go for someone with a higher profile. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westenclosure2008 797 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I totally agree with the sentiment. We all have our doubts and those doubts are completely understandable but it won't help if we are all not behind the team. I get the feeling that some are actually hoping that we do fail so they can say "I said he was shite months ago". We need to show a united front and give the manager and players our full backing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westenclosure2008 797 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: King didn't and I'd never heard of Dick Advocaat either I think that says more about your knowledge of football at the time. He'd only been the Holland manager and won the Dutch title with PSV. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 2 hours ago, gmcf said: Good post . If you look at guys like Souness ( who lost his first two league games ) and Advocaat ( who won 3 of his first 7 league games ) then you realise how difficult it is as a new manager . I think the danger is with the way things are right now with a lot of folk calling for his head  , is PC not being able to express himself and play a damage limitation game in fear of defeat . It's probably the worst thing he could do ,  but when you're under pressure it's probably a natural instinct . Thats why it's important to back him , show patience , let him play his game and see how we stand at Christmas or over the course of the season .  I could live until xmas but I think end of September we should know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperpete 3,186 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Blue Avenger said: Fuck it. I'm backing the board. I thought friday was your Methadone day  . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,684 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 People saying we need to be patient, we're not in a position to be patient. Every season we waste the harder it gets to catch up with the filth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 2 hours ago, McEwan's Lager said: He should have resigned when we lost 5-1 at home to Celtic got knocked out by the 4th best team from Luxembourg in the Europa League. I'll support the team as usual but I won't be getting behind the manager. What does that even mean anyway? Am I supposed to sing a song for him at the game? Exactly. If his team score goals and win games, the fans will clap and cheer. If he loses goals and games, the fans will boo. It's entirely in his hands. If/when he fucks it, it won't be because the fans didn't "back him". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: I'm not going to boo him or anything but for me he's nowhere near good enough. The manager is the most important employee in the club. Players can flourish or stagnate depending on his attributes. A clear example is Delia/Rodgers. Rodgers is on big money - allegedly around 3m a year but i consider that an investment because all he has to do is to develop/improve one player and flog him to the prem - Delia couldnt, he can. I dont think Pedro can either. Mcinnes or Moyes for me Moyes??????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, psb07158 said: Moyes??????? Who then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billythebear77 10,386 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Fukkin moyes????....absolute shite manager.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 46 minutes ago, Frank Harrison said: People saying we need to be patient, we're not in a position to be patient. Every season we waste the harder it gets to catch up with the filth. And every knee-jerk reaction we make makes it a less and less attractive job to managers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,684 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, The Dude said: And every knee-jerk reaction we make makes it a less and less attractive job to managers. Don't agree, if we were going for top managers then yes but the type of manager we will be aiming for I don't think would turn it down because of that. Don't think it's knee jerk anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: Who then? Not a Celtic man who has been dreadful at his last 3 clubs anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, Frank Harrison said: Don't agree, if we were going for top managers then yes but the type of manager we will be aiming for I don't think would turn it down because of that. Don't think it's knee jerk anyway. You don't think binning a manager two weeks before the league season begins is a knee-jerk? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,684 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Moyes? Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,684 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, The Dude said: You don't think binning a manager two weeks before the league season begins is a knee-jerk? In this context no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Billythebear77 said: Fukkin moyes????....absolute shite manager.... Why was he offered the Man U job then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: Why was he offered the Man U job then? Because Sir Furious got it wrong. I'm sure he even admitted as much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,482 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Dude said: You don't think binning a manager two weeks before the league season begins is a knee-jerk? Three very very embarrassing results in three months isn't exactly knee-jerk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, ForeverAndEver said: Three very very embarrassing results in three months isn't exactly knee-jerk. Binning a manager after giving him £8m to spend over the summer then binning him before the league has even started is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, The Dude said: Because Sir Furious got it wrong. I'm sure he even admitted as much. Was Van Gaal shite too. How's Mourinho doing?  Was Rodgers shite at Liverpool. Was Moyes shite at Everton!  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,684 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, Deanzmeanzheinz said: Was Van Gaal shite too. How's Mourinho doing?  Was Rodgers shite at Liverpool. Was Moyes shite at Everton!  Yes, OK, yes, a wee bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,482 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Binning a manager after giving him £8m to spend over the summer then binning him before the league has even started is. Should have been sacked months ago. The board are idiots though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, Deanzmeanzheinz said: Was Van Gaal shite too. How's Mourinho doing?  Was Rodgers shite at Liverpool. Was Moyes shite at Everton!  van Gaal wasn't great, no. Mourinho hasn't been brilliant but at least got them into the CL and lifted a European trophy. Rodgers was shite at Liverpool. Which is why he got the sack and couldn't get a sniff of a decent job. Moyes done well at Everton but has since been wank at United, Real Sociedad and Sunderland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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