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  1. True - but the club couldn't have held off doing the IPO any longer than it did. As a result King now needs to buy his way in. Even a new share issue doesn't guarantee King any chance of gettign either any shares or enought shares to have significant interest as all shares must first be offered to existing investors before any sale to non-shareholders. Even if King had a very small shareholding now (like my own £500 investment) he would only be allowed to buy shares to the extent that his shareholding is not diluted and isn't automatically entitled to buy more shares - this is the same for every investor. Bottom line is whilst he may have to line the pockets of someone else to get in, it is the only way he can have any control - all the bluster via the media isn't ogignt o change that and I would far prefer any potential future investor in the club wasn't going to publicatiosn like the Sun to further their cause.
  2. Because he had his chance in December last year to invest and for whatever reason chose not to. You can't blame the investors who have been in from day 1 or form the IPO for not wanting their sharehlding diluted just because King has decided (10 or 118 months too late) that he now wants to join the party. Ultimately, if he wants a say just now he will need to pay to buy someone else's chair at the table. Considering his previous investment level, his reported net worth and the club's current position, buying his way in isn't goign to ocme at a massive cost and would allow him to speed up any further share issue investment. At the moment he is just left lookign daft and using the gutter-rats in the media to try and stir up uncertainty in their fact-devoid publications.
  3. If King wants a say then why doesn't he put his hand in his pocket and buy some of the shares already in circulation. They are at rock bottom price just now and given his fortunes, would be a small price to pay to secure a say. Once he has done this then he could work on increasing his stake and pushinfg for a new share issue, where he would be guaranteed the opportunity to increase his investment. It goes back to the old saying which has rung tru since we went into admin - put up or shut up!
  4. Laudrup woudl be an amazing replacement for McCoist - even better if he brought his brother in as coach/assistant. He would be exactly the sort of guy who I think would deliver on the park in the short term and eliver change in coaching and establishing a scouting network in the short term. If we were to go for him I htink he woudl come....with a bit of persuasion form his brother
  5. I wouldn't take any of those 5 given the choice. All either backward or sideway steps
  6. Van Gaal woudl be a phenominal appointment - that could really statr the ball rolling with a great internal set up. Couldn't see it happening though
  7. Bristol is about one quarter of his mangemet career though so hard to ignore. I agree his other result have been decent - but not spectacular. Replacing McCoist with McInnes would be a little too 'like for like' - I think we need a bigger name with a stronger (and longer) record for our next appointment. Maybe MInnes will emulate SAF and use Aberdeen as a springboard after some successful seasons. if he did then yes, in the future he could be ideal for us, but I don't think it would be a smart move for either us or him just now.
  8. I agree and that's the reason I think McInnes would be a poor choice and "cheap option". I'd ratehr see us go out an d get an experienced head - possibly someone with EPL level experience to replace McCoist that may well demand a higher package than McCoist's salary (before it was reduced). if they could give balance to the side, get it playign good football and be part of setting up a great youth and scouting network then that would be money well spent. A younger, cheaper and unproven manager is not goign to get that sort of backing. Take the example of Advocaat. He came in with a strong track record and his clout got us a world class training facility and massive investment on the field. Now, I'm not saying that shoudl be replicated (we are all still feelign the pain of that expenditure and financial mis-management) but the point is that a manager with a stronger proven track record is more likfely to be in a far better position to command the time and investment to make a long term difference to the club
  9. Really - I am speaking about his track record as a manager - previous results are facts surely?
  10. This isn't about McCoist - it is about McInnes as a successor. Do I want 1 mediocre manager who was a former player to replace another - no. If McCoist is to go (or when he goes as it is inevitable we willc hange managers at some poitn in the future) I want to see us bring in someone significantly better. I have nothign against McInnes but he isn't that next "step up" we need if and when replacing McCoist.
  11. I don't disagree with you there - that's why gettign the coice of successor is absolutely crucial. If that person can deliver results on the pitch and oversee a full restucture in scouting and youth then we have a real winner. Derek McInnes would not be that person though
  12. The fact he has won nothing as a manager (I don''t count the challenge cup) and has 1 good season as amanager ecvery 5 years - that isn't a proven track record by any standard. The guy has a 40% win rate across his managerial career - how long would he last at Ibrox if he continued that sort of record
  13. True - beut we are not exactly in great ascendency ourselves and if Ally is replaced then we would need someone who could deliver this
  14. It's not opinion - it's fact. We need someone who coudl hadle the pressure and edeliver at a club where, as Walter put it "you are only ever 3 defeats away form a crisis" At what stage of his managerial career has McInnes ever proved that? I think McInnes is a decent coach, but do I think he has PROVED he could handle the role here - no chance.
  15. GOAT - I htink you are bang on but we also need a manager who will deliver instant results otherwise our ever fickle fanbase will descend ont hem and the whole thing will collapse. PLG could have been the man to deliver the great infrastructure when he came in. His on field performance was dire though and so we will never know what the potential could have been there. We shoudl be able to get back to the top flight no bother but how many fans would accept possibly 4-5 seasons there possibly sitting well behind the filth waiting patiently for this all to fully take shape. I'd find it hard and I try and see myself as a "bigger picture" fan, but there are so many who just would't tolerate it and then the whole thing falls down again
  16. Proved himself where? 1 good season at St Johnstone Given the bullet at Bristol City Achieving reasonable consistency with an average Aberdeen side who have spent more than most other Premier sides and are still not runaway 2nd place by any view Proved he is Joe Average at best
  17. Another non story by an attention seeking non journalist
  18. Whilst 3rd tier football in Scotland is no great challenge or quality, I can't see Wallace being all that excited about a move to the once great (many many many mons ago) Forrest. They are an average Championship side at best and I think Wallace is capable of playing at a higher level than this. Sticking with us at least until we get back to the top of the Scottish game will make Wallace a club legend and I owuld hoep that the captain's armband would head his way from next season (ideally with Jig having a less regular role in the side). Once back and challenging he would then have European football opportunities - again something he will never experience at Forrest. If he was to stay another 3-4 seasons with us and then got a money spinning move to a decent EPL side (with a hefty fee) then I think it would be the best result all round. For the moment though Wallace is one of a fewplayers (Bell, MacLeod and Law) that I think we shoudl be building a team for the future around.
  19. I agree that it is frightening, but who would you have in his place? I think before we look at showing him the door we need a quality rpelacement lined up and I don't think we woudl be as attractive to a top quality manager as we amy think we are (not to mentiong the cost of such an appointment) The prospect of one of the current SPFL managers would be worse than McCoist IMO and I can't see someone form a top job taking the step to come here so we then look at bringing in someone with "potential" and that has it's own pitfalls to consider
  20. Question to you GOAT - who would you have in McCoist's place given the clubs current standing (both league and financial)?
  21. How not to win friends and alienate yourself Nicky - have a pop at your own fans in the gutter-rag press. Everything is relative in terms of where we were before and who we competed against. Whilst we may not have the class of player we were once accustomed to, we no longer have the same quality of opposition. Therefore the demand of the supporter that the club secures maximum points every week is one that shoudl legitimately continue. In fact,, given the inequality of arms we face these part time teams with, it could be argued that this shoudl be heightened...at least until we are back in the top league. Results are and always will be important at thsi club. That has been the case for 140 years and will be the case so long as our club exists. Why this has taken so long to sink in with Law is a concern andit is of further concern that he seems to accept that not strivign for victory may be acceptable some of the time. What is both ill-timesd and inexcusable about his "rant" is that it comes on the back of an awful performance against Arbroath and a fairly unconvincing showing against Forfar. When we get to the stage we are outclassed by better personnel form a betterresourced club but have at least given them a match, I will (grudgingly) concede that we are maybe askignt oo much form our players, but we are not even close to that part of the road for now and it would do Messrs Law et al to consider that their wage alone is probably enough to cover the whole wage budget for the opposition that ran us so close on Saturday and that in excess of 40,000 supporters parted with their hard earned cash to be subjectedf to that showing. I remeber growing up as a kid and being told by my under 13s team manager to "do my talking on the pitch" - I wish Nicky Law hasd been advised the same. Play well week in week out, entertain us and win and you will be cherished in the eharts of the supporters of this club forever. Play sub-standard and moan about our support in the paper and, well, a less glamourous road awaits you...
  22. That is class - can we get this guy hired in place of Ian Cock-stroker! Welcome to Scatland Claudio!
  23. What the article completely fails to address is that not one penny woudl go in to the club as a result of buying aready issued shares. All people woudl be doing is lining the pockets of existing shareholders who were lookign to sell their shares, be itprivate or institutional investors. The "grand plan" of owning millions of shares in the club and holding a large % is also dependant on that number of shares being made available for sale and there is no guarantee that such a number owuld be made available for sale
  24. I'd argue that Law is probably our best all round player in the current squad. In keeping with tradition at Ibrox he seems to be played a little out of position adn should really play as an attacking midfielder but his 2 goals on Sunday showed exactly what he is capable of as an attacking force. He will stroll in to the SPL and with a more experienced MacLeod around him by that stage should ensure we have the best central midfield pairing in the top flight
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