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I was only talking about changing football club supporting. When Lambert joined celtc there was a story in the papers (I know) about his father changing over. In fact his father ran a Rangers supporters bus at that time, or have I got the wrong guy?

I see a pattern here, so obvious. Anyway I did not attack or insult a poster, if you read the thread you will see I was talking about an unnamed "guy" who seemingly took part in the RST scheme.

It would be dependent on what was said before and after the one line you quote. As far the share scheme is concerned (I did not take part) its one man one vote.

Paul Lambert's father.

I made no comment on the OP because its just more of the same and a waste of time replying. A poster said a "guy" bought through the RST scheme thinking the shares would be in his name, I find that very hard to believe. You and others get all upset about calling this unnamed "guy" thick, well he ain't the brightest is he? Did this "guy" not read the paperwork before handing over his cash? Anyone who thinks they were conned through this scheme should certainly complain.

"Perhaps the correct term is gullible as opposed to thick." "No I think he just read the misleading headline which promised him a chance to take part in club." There was no con in this scheme every aspect of it was explained. Find it hard to believe that anyone thought the were getting shares in their own name, but hey maybe the tims don't have a monopoly on stupidity. I did not participate in the scheme because I wanted my shares in my name.

I have no reason to doubt what you have said. Somebody has got to hold them up!

The Bill Miller banners were organised by Andy Smillie.

Whit?

Long way to go before we can say that McCoist is a decent manager. Already this season we have had Forfar.

I take it that this guy is also the thickest guy you know?

For The Avoidance Of Doubt Posted on August 24, 2013 by billmcmurdo The above words appeared as the title of a media statement by Jim Traynor on the official Rangers website recently. The last sentence of this statement read: “Finally, Jack Irvine of Media House does not speak for this Club.” I will bet that these are words JT wishes he had kept out of his release. Because he certainly cannot say them now. The good news is that Jack’s back. Jack Irvine has been retained by the board of Rangers Football Club in their battle to maintain control of the club against the attempted coup by Messrs McColl, Murray and Blin. The McColl group have been vocal in their determination to oust three Rangers directors and replace them with McColl’s own place men. Their attempt to effectively get control of Rangers without on the cheap has angered many fans. It will be good to see a robust PR defence of the present Rangers regime if only to counter the skewered accounts in media outlets that are hostile to Rangers. The use of the Daily Record by the McColl group – a notoriously anti-Rangers paper despite protestations by Keith Jackson – has left many bluenoses cynical, particularly when the McColl coup has tried to paint itself as speaking for the fans. When I first voiced my own opposition to Jim McColl based on his pro-Independence stance, I was pilloried by many, yet I see more and more Rangers fans are now saying the same thing. McColl’s politics DO matter and it is extremely disingenuous to suggest otherwise. They matter enough for him to use his position to beat the drum for Scotland’s separation from the UK so his very public stance on the matter invites scrutiny. And it is perfectly reasonable to ask why Mr McColl is so interested in a club that is world-famous for its Unionist ethos, especially when that interest was not evident among work colleagues who knew him as a younger man. Apparently Jim McColl contacted Craig Mather to tell him that he was misquoted in yesterday’s Daily Record concerning the intransigence of the McColl coup’s attitude to Mather’s job. Now we are led to believe that the nail on which the Rangers CEO’s jacket hangs might not be so shoogly after all. Quite frankly, Mather doesn’t need that crap and neither do the Rangers support. At a time when the team finally looks to be firing on all cylinders and everybody at Rangers needs to pull together, the destabilising antics of Magnum McColl and Mini Murray are as welcome as toothache. The present Rangers board should be given time to prove their worth. That is my position and I know more and more are saying the same. The club just doesn’t need the upset that the McColl group is bringing at this present moment. Many are making wild speculations about the financial situation at Ibrox but we really won’t know till accounts are published. It’s interesting that Kieran Prior seems satisfied that Mather and Stockbridge are doing a good job. I have no doubt that the accounts will be pored over and people will find stuff in there that they don’t like. Or rather, stuff that backs up their agenda. But the accounts may also show that the club is being run prudently and is in rude health financially. This, of course, will not suit those who have a blind hatred of the current regime. The good news is that lies, smears and agenda-driven propaganda that undermine the Rangers board and thus the club will now be countered in the media. For the avoidance of doubt – Jack’s back. And he does speak for the club.

McMurdo know saying that Jack Irvine has been retained by club to fight against McColl, therefore Traynor statement was wrong.

Missed the interview. Not surprised he came across well, he will have been well tutored in platitudes as businessman. What we should not forget is that this guy with the others has been giving themselves ridiculous salaries & bonuses at our expense. As I said on another thread in a few years he will have recouped his million investment and still have his shares. Good work if you can get it.

Ok the floors yours.

McMurdo is completely missing the crux of the matter, no surprise there. It's not a matter of how much an individual put into the IPO but more what the present board are doing with the clubs monies. At the rate their going Mather will have his million back with a few years and still have his shares.

Could be he is a Rangers fan and will do it out of love for the club, could be a part time job etc. I just do not see McColl complaining about salaries and bonuses then bring in a guy who gets more pay than the present lot combined.

Nobody in Scottish football boardrooms has ever been paid that much. Bit of scare mongering I think. would very much doubt McColl would be willing to pay anyone that amount in our position. We need to get rid of the self seekers who are bleeding us every way they can.

It would be very helpful imo, all those who are giving each other bonus and inflated salaries would be gone. Hopefully the new board (Blin?) would do something about the ridiculous salaries of the coaching staff.

Business analysis: investors must provide ending to sorry soap opera at Rangers Ian McConnell Group Business Editor Friday 23 August 2013 INSTITUTIONAL investors do not, as a rule, like drama in the boardroom, especially when it is occurring at a company that has only just floated. Given that the goings-on at Rangers would be enough to make the scriptwriter for a South American soap opera think he was losing the plot, it is hardly surprising that some investors in the football club are appalled and desperate to see an end to the current chapter. The Rangers script has been a rip-roaring read. However, for investors who bought into the club at its flotation last December, it has been a tale of woe in terms of Rangers' share-price performance. Malcolm Murray, who met institutional investors and helped persuade them to participate in the flotation given his City credentials, stepped down as chairman only months later, in May. The word was that other directors had moved against him and that Charles Green, who led the purchase of Rangers' assets from insolvency last summer, had played a part in Mr Murray's departure, an exit which understandably worried some institutional investors who had viewed him as their voice on the board. Mr Green had resigned as chief executive by then, strenuously denying any wrongdoing amid allegations of links with former Rangers owner Craig Whyte in the run-up to last summer's deal, but stayed on the board until May 31. The plot took a further twist on August 2, when Rangers announced to the market that Mr Green had been appointed as a consultant, then only hours later revealed investors were seeking a general meeting to vote on a radical boardroom shake-up. Then, on August 5, fans' favourite Walter Smith quit as chairman. He urged supporters to back the campaign for boardroom change. Engineering entrepreneur Jim McColl , who is leading the campaign for change, asserts that he did not want to find himself on the front line of what must be one of the most bizarre battles he has fought. Mr Green, whose consultancy agreement was terminated by Rangers this week, perhaps demonstrated best, albeit inadvertently, why change is so desperately needed. When the McColl camp requisitioned a meeting, to consider resolutions to remove Rangers chief executive Craig Mather, and fellow directors Brian Stockbridge and Bryan Smart from the board and appoint Frank Blin and Paul Murray as directors, Mr Green's response was jaw-dropping, even by his standards. He declared Mr McColl had until August 9 to put £14m into stockbroker Daniel Stewart's client account. Mr Green said he and his "consortium" would then sell Mr McColl 20 million shares, thus giving him a 28% stake. This response ignored entirely the issue at hand, corporate governance, focusing instead on money. In terms of how not to go about things in the wake of a flotation, Rangers is an object lesson. For a time, it looked as if Mr Green might really take Rangers forward. He stabilised the situation after buying the assets, brought in Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley as a shareholder, and set an ambitious timescale for flotation and achieved this. Mr McColl, who had issued dire warnings in June last year about what Mr Green might do to the club, was even moved at one stage to praise what had been achieved. But the protracted soap opera that has unfolded through the spring and summer has forced Mr McColl to step up, reluctantly, on behalf of disgruntled investors. Shares in Rangers, which were floated at 70p last December and hit a high of 93p on January 2, are now languishing at 43p. Mr Blin, the former head of big four accountant PricewaterhouseCoopers in Scotland, is a heavyweight on the corporate scene. Paul Murray was a director of Rangers, in its past life, but exited after Craig Whyte took control. Rangers' board said this week it had an "open mind" about adding Mr Blin to its board. It claimed the other proposed resolutions were not in the best interests of shareholders. But there must be a wholesale shift in the balance of power. Impressive as he is, it is unlikely Mr Blin can exert much influence by joining the board, in the absence of other changes. Rangers has the big advantage of being free of the huge debts which burden some football clubs, albeit as a consequence of recent painful events. It has a one-time chance to really make a go of things as an Alternative Investment Market-listed company. Recent events have alarmed some institutional investors. But it does not have to be this way. Look at the way Celtic has been run in recent years by chief executive Peter Lawwell and an array of directors who have held very senior positions elsewhere. Mr McColl fears institutions will walk away from Rangers, and the club will not be able in future to raise the funds it needs as it aims to return to the bigger stage. It would be far better for Rangers to raise money from a broad range of investors, and take the personalities out of the equation. Radical boardroom change is essential if confidence is to be restored, and time is running out. It is not a matter of depositing money in a bank account. Nor should the McColl camp be fobbed off with some compromise which does not bring real change. Having come this far, it should push on and get things sorted out once and for all. http://www.heraldscotland.com/busine...ngers.21937520

I use it and find it good for getting fitba news that wee bit earlier. But some have an obsession with getting more and more followers for some reason.

Very true, would never happen on RM.

That bit is true imo.

Probably means " most likely". Blin has had very senior positions in large accountancy firms. Not one bad report has come out about him in fact the contrary. We need someone of his calibre to get a grip of our finances, if not him someone else of that standard. Up till today's pathetic club statement I was willing to give Mather the benefit of the doubt but not now. We have a FD who cannot or is unwillimg to answer basic questions put to him. It's time to end the gravy train and that includes both directors and coaching staff.

William (Willie Thornton).