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SPFL clubs fear they will be hurt financially themselves if Rangers stripped of titles. Prospect of Rangers being punished for tax avoidance leads to concerns that awarding trophies to runners-up clubs will trigger impossible bonus payments As the turf war between Mike Ashley and Rangers widened to include a court challenge by the Sports Direct billionaire to the Scottish Football Association, the possibility of the Ibrox club being stripped of titles has fuelled concern among several clubs, who fear financial repercussions. The status of the five Scottish championships, four Scottish Cup wins and six Scottish League Cup successes recorded by Rangers between 2001 and 2011 has been called into question since the decision by the Court of Session in Edinburgh to uphold HMRC’s appeal against the rulings of two previous tribunals that EBT (Employee Benefit Trust) schemes for players were administered improperly. Calls for the annulment of the titles won by Rangers during the period when EBTs were used as a tax avoidance scheme at Ibrox were fuelled by the observation of one of the three Court of Session judges, Lord Drummond Young that, had the trusts not existed, some players “might well have taken their services elsewhere”. Both the Scottish Professional Football League and the SFA have referred the matter to their lawyers for scrutiny but last night one chairman, who asked not to be identified, told Telegraph Sport: “There is a strong feeling amongst clubs that this has to be handled extremely carefully because of the possible consequences. “Suppose for the sake of argument Rangers are stripped of all the honours they won during the time they operated EBTs. Do we award those honours to the runners-up – and trigger the bonuses that would have been paid to the players who were on their books then if they had actually won the trophies? “Celtic might be able to afford that but nobody else could. The alternative would be to withhold all of those trophies and devalue all our domestic tournaments at a time when we’ve had to go cap in hand to find sponsors.” Another chairman, who also spoke on condition of anonymity, said: “I certainly don’t fly any flag for Rangers and my view is that the EBT scheme was questionable and maybe even reckless from the start but they were given expert advice and they acted on it and it has taken the taxman three tries to get a favourable result. “Rangers have paid the price for that but so has everyone else in Scottish football since the oldco went under. Right now I would say that matters are moving sideways and we still don’t know if the taxman has actually won. “Don’t forget that the SPL clubs got solidarity payments from Uefa because Rangers were in the group stages of the Champions League as Scottish champions. If we take titles away from Rangers and Uefa demand their money back, who would be able to pay it?” The prospect of the controversy being resolved one way or the other in the foreseeable future now depends on whether or not there will be yet another appeal in what is colloquially known as the Big Tax Case. The deadline for an appeal to the Supreme Court by Rangers’ liquidators, BDO, or Sir David Murray, who approved the use of EBTs when he owned the club, falls three weeks from now. Ashley, meanwhile, has lodged a legal challenge to the SFA’s decision to approve Rangers’ chairman and principal shareholder, Dave King, as a fit and proper person to hold the position. King dislodged the previous Ashley-backed boardroom regime in March but had to wait until May for the SFA to authorise his chairmanship. The judicial review of the SFA’s approval of King was originally docketed for Dec 11, but has been rescheduled for Feb 4. The SFA refused to comment. Sounds as though a few clubs are shitting themselves and at least a couple are on our side http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/11990181/SPL-clubs-fear-they-will-be-hurt-financially-themselves-if-Rangers-stripped-of-titles.html

Apparently we've been selling them for £20 all year. Only valid for one game.

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Further signs that he as matured since coming to Ibrox.

They avoid paying employers NIC,. It says so in the article. The employee pays himself a dividend thus avoiding employees NIC and reduces tax liability.

On a similar note but in a far grander scale. http://taxjustice.blogspot.de/2013/04/irish-tax-haven-creator-rings-lse-bell.html Google had over £3 billion in sales in the UK and paid only £20 million in tax. All thanks to a scheme called "The Double irish" created by Dermot Desmond. See above http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/12/heres-why-its-legal-for-facebook-to-pay-less-than-5000-in-british-tax-5434871/

Strip their BAFTAS. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9588020/How-Jeremy-Paxman-blew-lid-on-BBCs-complicity-in-tax-avoidance-pay-deals.html

Should ask the BBC about that. They ran a massive avoidance scam for years involving over 1500 high paid employees. Paying employees through personal service companies as a way of reducing NIC. Maybe we should campaign to have them stripped of BAFTAS. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9588020/How-Jeremy-Paxman-blew-lid-on-BBCs-complicity-in-tax-avoidance-pay-deals.html "It resulted in a stormy evidence session with Zarin Patel, the BBC’s chief financial officer, in July. Under close questioning, Ms Patel disclosed that BBC employed hundreds of news presenters and on air talent through the service companies. Some 342 ‘stars’ were paid over £50,000 a year. Yet by last night the BBC risked being accused of misleading the committee after it released revised figures which showed the number of stars paid more than £50,000 a year had increased to “around 400”. In addition, it disclosed for the first time that 1,500 of its "on-screen" talent were paid through service companies. The BBC admitted that many of the contractors were on deals that “can often share the characteristics of typical PAYE contracts”, raising major questions about why the arrangement was set up in the first place. The broadcaster could not be sure that the correct tax was being paid by its employees. Margaret Hodge MP, the chairman of the PAC which published its findings today, described the practice as “staggeringly inappropriate”. She told The Daily Telegraph: “I want the BBC to stop and call a halt to what is completely unacceptable use of tax avoidance schemes."

Kieran. Kieran Gibbons OG

Bigger concern for me is the number of times Waggy cuts in from the right and there is no one in and around the penalty spot. I would have thought by now his team mates could read his game and move in to position. Now if we can sort that out the goals will come.

Did he play for ICT as a youth and had a chance of turning pro? Sure i read that somewhere.

Yeah.Think he'll apply for European membership next year. He'll have exemption for 4 Majors, 4 WGC events so only has to play another 5 events. his fathers American so could opt to play for USA, but he looks a good bet for Team GB in the Olympics. Reckon there's about 20 British players in the Worlds top 100 next year promises to be a cracker.

Great stuff. Biggest tournament outside a major. Looks to be a contender for the Olympics and i think its possible for him to play for the USA in the Ryder cup,

Agree. “Furthermore, so far as the footballers are concerned, at least, it seems to us that if bonuses had not been paid they might well have taken their services elsewhere. We realise that the fifth respondent [RFC 2012] was in, potentially, a difficult financial position, competing for good players in an international market where other countries may not have the same rigorous approach to taxation as the United Kingdom" Absolutely fuck all to do with the actual tax case./

Some pongos started an online petition to have our titles stripped. http://twitition.com/lrwe7 But forgets to put the name of Rangers on it. What it relates to and when.

I reckon another fine.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3306277/SPFL-chiefs-hold-crisis-talks-Friday-discuss-fall-Rangers-EBT-ruling.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 "Nevertheless, the SPFL's nine-man board have brought forward a meeting originally planned for November 25 to gather full details and consider whether sporting sanctions against the oldco are either justified or workable under existing rules." Someone must have got beat last night. Knew this would happen. Don't think anything will come of it though.

Had to laugh at this. You will be lucky to even get an acknowledgment from the SFA. I wrote a few years back questioning their decision to not introduce the spray foam for free kicks (which they have now introduced 12 months after everyone else did) and never got any kind of reply. They treat their customers with total contempt. Who the fuck takes the trouble to write a letter demanding the introduction of spray foam? And then wonders why they don't get a reply.

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Remember a match in the early eighties when we were a very poor side. Sandy Clark was having a howler. At one point the ball was punted Clark went to header the ball, slipped, the ball hit him on the back of the neck as he fell face first. The entire enclosure burst out laughing. Loudest noise of the night. Clark got subbed, never played another game.

Taig fans comment. "Scotland is a small country" might have been a valid point if we hadn't already suffered embarrassing defeats to two teams from Norway" From last week How the feck can we get beat off 2 Swedish teams in 1 season?! What is their problem with Sweden and Norway ffs. The one fan that understood that Molde is in Norway and not Sweden got his dates wrong and went a week early. He's probably flying back from Turkey as we speak.

Dundee Utd 5 Dundee Utd B team 0

And maybe try out some of the younger kids and put more effort in to the Scottish Cup

Not great quality. Only highlights.