Hilly86

Garner needs a bit of fight as his only way to create chances for himself or others, one of the main reasons for two better performances of late.

Find a bit of purpose for two games, a way to make your centre-forward useful in bringing others into the game, then resort to the default aimless shit when the pressure has been lessened. Dire.

61:39, Miller for Waghorn, midfield untouched.

And yet constantly trying to play through the area that's so poor...

Knowing the "quality" of that site, I agree that it's more likely to be a lack of journalism standards that led to it. That the apology fails to mention the name of the club might be more of the same...maybe?

That criticism would be just as valid if it was other people's players he was trying to crowbar into his pet formation. More damning that they're his choices.

Thought the same, if only for wanting something other than the usual midgets getting bullied by shite and run over. Then I remember that Kiernan is utterly hopeless at everything. Not being able to tackle is a bit of a disadvantage for a midfielder.

Have we tried him at right-back yet? Seriously, he's not good enough and doesn't give the impression that he's interested in getting better. For someone who seems to actually do the hard training that the manager talks about incessantly, it all seems to be about putting on bulk and muscle. He came on as a sub a few games back and looked comical trying to run. Garner earned a bit of respect last night for not surrendering like the rest of them. Him alongside Dodoo can't be worse than the pointlessness of the current setup.

The scariest part of tonight for me. Lots of teams sit back and happily watch us go nowhere with 70% possession, knowing that there's a good chance it will work for them. To see it turn to that complete shambles when the opposition do decide to get the ball back...

Not in a mood to hear him find excuses or deflect from what we all saw tonight, let alone the usual 'learning' pish. I can't see what he can or will change to make that pressure go away now. He has a pathetic record against the teams that he'd want to think of as being our closest competitors, last season included, despite having better resources. If he can't or won't change such a turgid team with the advantages he has, he should go.

One of the stranger things about MW's failure, for someone so obviously intelligent and thoughtful about football, is the difference in what he says and what we can all see happening on the pitch. When did we last press an opposition? It's been a myth for longer than the few months last year when it was a real thing to appreciate.

Go for it, might be cathartic!

Holt? Which one is he again?

Perfectly stated. Constant talk of 'not doing what we do well' is a lie - we do nothing well. Meek, weak and pointlessness dressed up as 'progressive'.

Even the possession and pitch geography KPI's will be a bastard tonight!

He sends out players who are obviously mentally and physically too weak for the jersey, with instructions that they evidently can't implement - if they even understand them in the first place. Just go.

How apt!

That MW's mantra of us "not doing what we're good at" of the past umpteen months is more pish management speak or evidence that he just doesn't now what he's doing?

Don't make him angry...you wouldn't like him when he's angry...

The absolute state of Waghorn running there...

An undeniable truth, made worse by the insistence on making such limited players try to play in a way that exposes them so badly.

But, but, but...WILL SOMEBODY THINK OF THE POSSESSION STATS!!!

Allow me - we're passing the ball about, barely able to control it before going mostly backwards...do that for two minutes before losing it and making Ross County look like they invented the dangerous counter-attack...repeat for a season

Pathetic...this is the limit of these players, a collective Homer Simpson brain fart, unable to attack with any organisation, worse at closing down or tackling.

Still mince at concentrating for any length of time then...