Sick of all the PC brigade

[bluestilo 0]

I wonder how many "Protestants" actually know what their religion is all about. Most just see it as another opposite to Catholic Celtic fans.

very true

takes nothing away from the true protestants though

Of course. I don't think I've ever met one though.

You've never met a church goer?

I've never met an actual Protestant Rangers fan.

Then you should meet me then or others like me, i am and always have been a Rangers fan. I am also an elder in the Church of Scotland, and i for one, at

times take offence to certain fellow Rangers fans who use "our" religion to beat the so called kafflics over the head with, they then freak out when they find

that the religion they "love" and would "die" to defend includes such kafflick practices as communion. If you do not go to church, want to understand

your own religion, or even believe in God, then please do not pretend to be a Protestant as you know this may upset a member of the Roman Catholic faith.

We are Christians as are Catholics, if you want to scream abuse at someone because he or she is a celtic fan, then be my guest. But the use of my Church

must stop, if the celtic fans want to do it, let them. We are above that, and them, and always will be.

you talk some pish

you claim to be a church elder and if you are why would you believe we are above them

does your god not teach you that we are all the same no man is better than another

If you had read it right you would have seen i ment above them as Rangers fans above celtic fans ,like i said keep the religion out

[kplfishtank 4,677]

I wonder how many "Protestants" actually know what their religion is all about. Most just see it as another opposite to Catholic Celtic fans.

very true

takes nothing away from the true protestants though

Of course. I don't think I've ever met one though.

You've never met a church goer?

I've never met an actual Protestant Rangers fan.

Then you should meet me then or others like me, i am and always have been a Rangers fan. I am also an elder in the Church of Scotland, and i for one, at

times take offence to certain fellow Rangers fans who use "our" religion to beat the so called kafflics over the head with, they then freak out when they find

that the religion they "love" and would "die" to defend includes such kafflick practices as communion. If you do not go to church, want to understand

your own religion, or even believe in God, then please do not pretend to be a Protestant as you know this may upset a member of the Roman Catholic faith.

We are Christians as are Catholics, if you want to scream abuse at someone because he or she is a celtic fan, then be my guest. But the use of my Church

must stop, if the celtic fans want to do it, let them. We are above that, and them, and always will be.

you talk some pish

you claim to be a church elder and if you are why would you believe we are above them

does your god not teach you that we are all the same no man is better than another

If you had read it right you would have ment above them as Rangers fans above celtic fans like i said keep the religion out

but how can someone who is an elder in church and believes in the same god as celtic fans think hes better than them

im allowed to think this because i believe in the religion of glasgow rangers

[grahamteuchter 1]

I wonder how many "Protestants" actually know what their religion is all about. Most just see it as another opposite to Catholic Celtic fans.

very true

takes nothing away from the true protestants though

Of course. I don't think I've ever met one though.

You've never met a church goer?

I've never met an actual Protestant Rangers fan.

Then you should meet me then or others like me, i am and always have been a Rangers fan. I am also an elder in the Church of Scotland, and i for one, at

times take offence to certain fellow Rangers fans who use "our" religion to beat the so called kafflics over the head with, they then freak out when they find

that the religion they "love" and would "die" to defend includes such kafflick practices as communion. If you do not go to church, want to understand

your own religion, or even believe in God, then please do not pretend to be a Protestant as you know this may upset a member of the Roman Catholic faith.

We are Christians as are Catholics, if you want to scream abuse at someone because he or she is a celtic fan, then be my guest. But the use of my Church

must stop, if the celtic fans want to do it, let them. We are above that, and them, and always will be.

you talk some pish

you claim to be a church elder and if you are why would you believe we are above them

does your god not teach you that we are all the same no man is better than another

eh did you read what he wrote there? it would look as though the answer is no

What he has clearly explained that he does not agree with people using the name of the church to shout down other people.

[bluestilo 0]

I wonder how many "Protestants" actually know what their religion is all about. Most just see it as another opposite to Catholic Celtic fans.

very true

takes nothing away from the true protestants though

Of course. I don't think I've ever met one though.

You've never met a church goer?

I've never met an actual Protestant Rangers fan.

Then you should meet me then or others like me, i am and always have been a Rangers fan. I am also an elder in the Church of Scotland, and i for one, at

times take offence to certain fellow Rangers fans who use "our" religion to beat the so called kafflics over the head with, they then freak out when they find

that the religion they "love" and would "die" to defend includes such kafflick practices as communion. If you do not go to church, want to understand

your own religion, or even believe in God, then please do not pretend to be a Protestant as you know this may upset a member of the Roman Catholic faith.

We are Christians as are Catholics, if you want to scream abuse at someone because he or she is a celtic fan, then be my guest. But the use of my Church

must stop, if the celtic fans want to do it, let them. We are above that, and them, and always will be.

you talk some pish

you claim to be a church elder and if you are why would you believe we are above them

does your god not teach you that we are all the same no man is better than another

If you had read it right you would have ment above them as Rangers fans above celtic fans like i said keep the religion out

but how can someone who is an elder in church and believes in the same god as celtic fans think hes better than them

im allowed to think this because i believe in the religion of glasgow rangers

So because i believe in God and he says all men are equal, then im not allowed to have a favourate team, or a favourate set of fans, now whos talking pish

[johnny123 5]

Reading through the thread I find it quite sad that so many are against or don't care about the Rangers tradition I grew up with.

Thankfully the people I am friendly with share the same beliefs I have.

I'm delighted to say though that the handwringing PC brigade are conspicuous by their absence around me at Ibrox. Do these people only appear on internet message boards?because I honestly do not know any

[kplfishtank 4,677]

I wonder how many "Protestants" actually know what their religion is all about. Most just see it as another opposite to Catholic Celtic fans.

very true

takes nothing away from the true protestants though

Of course. I don't think I've ever met one though.

You've never met a church goer?

I've never met an actual Protestant Rangers fan.

Then you should meet me then or others like me, i am and always have been a Rangers fan. I am also an elder in the Church of Scotland, and i for one, at

times take offence to certain fellow Rangers fans who use "our" religion to beat the so called kafflics over the head with, they then freak out when they find

that the religion they "love" and would "die" to defend includes such kafflick practices as communion. If you do not go to church, want to understand

your own religion, or even believe in God, then please do not pretend to be a Protestant as you know this may upset a member of the Roman Catholic faith.

We are Christians as are Catholics, if you want to scream abuse at someone because he or she is a celtic fan, then be my guest. But the use of my Church

must stop, if the celtic fans want to do it, let them. We are above that, and them, and always will be.

you talk some pish

you claim to be a church elder and if you are why would you believe we are above them

does your god not teach you that we are all the same no man is better than another

If you had read it right you would have ment above them as Rangers fans above celtic fans like i said keep the religion out

but how can someone who is an elder in church and believes in the same god as celtic fans think hes better than them

im allowed to think this because i believe in the religion of glasgow rangers

So because i believe in God and he says all men are equal, then im not allowed to have a favourate team, or a favourate set of fans, now whos talking pish

at least youve admitted to talking pish at the start thats me done my job for the night billy graham

[david271994 0]

TBH im not sure if i believe in god or not.

May sound stupid but anytime I need a miricle/bit of luck a wee prayer sorts it out.

No Joke

[bluestilo 0]

I wonder how many "Protestants" actually know what their religion is all about. Most just see it as another opposite to Catholic Celtic fans.

very true

takes nothing away from the true protestants though

Of course. I don't think I've ever met one though.

You've never met a church goer?

I've never met an actual Protestant Rangers fan.

Then you should meet me then or others like me, i am and always have been a Rangers fan. I am also an elder in the Church of Scotland, and i for one, at

times take offence to certain fellow Rangers fans who use "our" religion to beat the so called kafflics over the head with, they then freak out when they find

that the religion they "love" and would "die" to defend includes such kafflick practices as communion. If you do not go to church, want to understand

your own religion, or even believe in God, then please do not pretend to be a Protestant as you know this may upset a member of the Roman Catholic faith.

We are Christians as are Catholics, if you want to scream abuse at someone because he or she is a celtic fan, then be my guest. But the use of my Church

must stop, if the celtic fans want to do it, let them. We are above that, and them, and always will be.

you talk some pish

you claim to be a church elder and if you are why would you believe we are above them

does your god not teach you that we are all the same no man is better than another

If you had read it right you would have ment above them as Rangers fans above celtic fans like i said keep the religion out

but how can someone who is an elder in church and believes in the same god as celtic fans think hes better than them

im allowed to think this because i believe in the religion of glasgow rangers

So because i believe in God and he says all men are equal, then im not allowed to have a favourate team, or a favourate set of fans, now whos talking pish

at least youve admitted to talking pish at the start thats me done my job for the night billy graham

Glad to see you revert to the usual name calling when someone can answer the crap you spout, thanks for not dissapointing me

[bluepeter 5,627]

You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church. If you are not baptised then you do not belong to any specific religeous group. This is a fact. You also cant be if you dont believe in god. The protestantism is a way of worship. It is a religeon. It is not a limb that you grow. It is not being a loyalist, a unionist or a Ger.

If your born into a protestant family it just means that your mum and dad are protestant.

How can you claim that it is "a fact" that "You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church" when your previous post says that

If these fans want to be taken seriously as Protestants then they should be at church or else they are just taking the name of the Church of Scotland purely to lambast the other side.

The Church of Scotland and the Presbyterian Church are two entirely different bodies. If you don't know what you're talking about, saying that it is "a fact" doesn't make you any more right. In fact, it generally weakens any point you might have had in the first place

[kplfishtank 4,677]

I wonder how many "Protestants" actually know what their religion is all about. Most just see it as another opposite to Catholic Celtic fans.

very true

takes nothing away from the true protestants though

Of course. I don't think I've ever met one though.

You've never met a church goer?

I've never met an actual Protestant Rangers fan.

Then you should meet me then or others like me, i am and always have been a Rangers fan. I am also an elder in the Church of Scotland, and i for one, at

times take offence to certain fellow Rangers fans who use "our" religion to beat the so called kafflics over the head with, they then freak out when they find

that the religion they "love" and would "die" to defend includes such kafflick practices as communion. If you do not go to church, want to understand

your own religion, or even believe in God, then please do not pretend to be a Protestant as you know this may upset a member of the Roman Catholic faith.

We are Christians as are Catholics, if you want to scream abuse at someone because he or she is a celtic fan, then be my guest. But the use of my Church

must stop, if the celtic fans want to do it, let them. We are above that, and them, and always will be.

you talk some pish

you claim to be a church elder and if you are why would you believe we are above them

does your god not teach you that we are all the same no man is better than another

If you had read it right you would have ment above them as Rangers fans above celtic fans like i said keep the religion out

but how can someone who is an elder in church and believes in the same god as celtic fans think hes better than them

im allowed to think this because i believe in the religion of glasgow rangers

So because i believe in God and he says all men are equal, then im not allowed to have a favourate team, or a favourate set of fans, now whos talking pish

at least youve admitted to talking pish at the start thats me done my job for the night billy graham

Glad to see you revert to the usual name calling when someone can answer the crap you spout, thanks for not dissapointing me

if you think thats name calling wait till the ultras get a hold of you

you will need to get a thicker skin

oh and welcome to the board hope your stays a long one

[bluestilo 0]

You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church. If you are not baptised then you do not belong to any specific religeous group. This is a fact. You also cant be if you dont believe in god. The protestantism is a way of worship. It is a religeon. It is not a limb that you grow. It is not being a loyalist, a unionist or a Ger.

If your born into a protestant family it just means that your mum and dad are protestant.

How can you claim that it is "a fact" that "You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church" when your previous post says that

If these fans want to be taken seriously as Protestants then they should be at church or else they are just taking the name of the Church of Scotland purely to lambast the other side.

The Church of Scotland and the Presbyterian Church are two entirely different bodies. If you don't know what you're talking about, saying that it is "a fact" doesn't make you any more right. In fact, it generally weakens any point you might have had in the first place

Not really sorry if you are Church of Scotland then you are a Presbyterian, Presbyterianism is the religion, Church of Scotland is the title we give our church

The seperate one is the Free Presbyterian church

[grahamteuchter 1]

You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church. If you are not baptised then you do not belong to any specific religeous group. This is a fact. You also cant be if you dont believe in god. The protestantism is a way of worship. It is a religeon. It is not a limb that you grow. It is not being a loyalist, a unionist or a Ger.

If your born into a protestant family it just means that your mum and dad are protestant.

How can you claim that it is "a fact" that "You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church" when your previous post says that

If these fans want to be taken seriously as Protestants then they should be at church or else they are just taking the name of the Church of Scotland purely to lambast the other side.

The Church of Scotland and the Presbyterian Church are two entirely different bodies. If you don't know what you're talking about, saying that it is "a fact" doesn't make you any more right. In fact, it generally weakens any point you might have had in the first place

The church of scotland worship as Pesbyterians.

The Church of Scotland (Scottish Gaelic: Eaglais na h-Alba), known informally by its Scots language name, The Kirk, is a Presbyterian church, decisively shaped by the Scottish Reformation.

The Church of Scotland traces its roots back to the beginnings of Christianity in Scotland, but its identity is principally shaped by the Reformation of 1560. Its current membership is about 10% of the Scottish population

I was talking about two different comments.

1. I was commenting on people who claim to be protestants at football matches and do not attend church. My problem being that these people only act protestant at football matches and not at any other point.

My other poin t was that you can not be protestant without being baptised. I said fact because that is a fact.

[bluepeter 5,627]

You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church. If you are not baptised then you do not belong to any specific religeous group. This is a fact. You also cant be if you dont believe in god. The protestantism is a way of worship. It is a religeon. It is not a limb that you grow. It is not being a loyalist, a unionist or a Ger.

If your born into a protestant family it just means that your mum and dad are protestant.

How can you claim that it is "a fact" that "You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church" when your previous post says that

If these fans want to be taken seriously as Protestants then they should be at church or else they are just taking the name of the Church of Scotland purely to lambast the other side.

The Church of Scotland and the Presbyterian Church are two entirely different bodies. If you don't know what you're talking about, saying that it is "a fact" doesn't make you any more right. In fact, it generally weakens any point you might have had in the first place

Not really sorry if you are Church of Scotland then you are a Presbyterian, Presbyterianism is the religion, Church of Scotland is the title we give our church

The seperate one is the Free Presbyterian church

I'll bow to your greater knowledge on that subject. In fact, a quick check reveals your right! Pity I didn't think about it checking before posting, eh? However, not every Protestant Church is a Presbyterian Church, so to say that "You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church" is still incorrect. I'd also like to know who gives grahamteuchter (or anyone else for that matter) the right to define what you must do to become a Protestant.

[nemisis 358]

Reading through the thread I find it quite sad that so many are against or don't care about the Rangers tradition I grew up with.

Thankfully the people I am friendly with share the same beliefs I have.

I'm delighted to say though that the handwringing PC brigade are conspicuous by their absence around me at Ibrox. Do these people only appear on internet message boards?

YES

[bluepeter 5,627]

You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church. If you are not baptised then you do not belong to any specific religeous group. This is a fact. You also cant be if you dont believe in god. The protestantism is a way of worship. It is a religeon. It is not a limb that you grow. It is not being a loyalist, a unionist or a Ger.

If your born into a protestant family it just means that your mum and dad are protestant.

How can you claim that it is "a fact" that "You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church" when your previous post says that

If these fans want to be taken seriously as Protestants then they should be at church or else they are just taking the name of the Church of Scotland purely to lambast the other side.

The Church of Scotland and the Presbyterian Church are two entirely different bodies. If you don't know what you're talking about, saying that it is "a fact" doesn't make you any more right. In fact, it generally weakens any point you might have had in the first place

The church of scotland worship as Pesbyterians.

The Church of Scotland (Scottish Gaelic: Eaglais na h-Alba), known informally by its Scots language name, The Kirk, is a Presbyterian church, decisively shaped by the Scottish Reformation.

The Church of Scotland traces its roots back to the beginnings of Christianity in Scotland, but its identity is principally shaped by the Reformation of 1560. Its current membership is about 10% of the Scottish population

I was talking about two different comments.

1. I was commenting on people who claim to be protestants at football matches and do not attend church. My problem being that these people only act protestant at football matches and not at any other point.

My other poin t was that you can not be protestant without being baptised. I said fact because that is a fact.

I've just read that exact quote on Wiki, and replied to our new friend above. I'd point you to my last line in my post above, i.e. what gives you or anyone else the right to say that someone who isn't baptised is not a Protestant?

[BLUEDIGNITY 33,790]

I wonder how many "Protestants" actually know what their religion is all about. Most just see it as another opposite to Catholic Celtic fans.

very true

takes nothing away from the true protestants though

Of course. I don't think I've ever met one though.

You've never met a church goer?

I've never met an actual Protestant Rangers fan.

Somebody bayonet this cunt !

[bluestilo 0]

You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church. If you are not baptised then you do not belong to any specific religeous group. This is a fact. You also cant be if you dont believe in god. The protestantism is a way of worship. It is a religeon. It is not a limb that you grow. It is not being a loyalist, a unionist or a Ger.

If your born into a protestant family it just means that your mum and dad are protestant.

How can you claim that it is "a fact" that "You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church" when your previous post says that

If these fans want to be taken seriously as Protestants then they should be at church or else they are just taking the name of the Church of Scotland purely to lambast the other side.

The Church of Scotland and the Presbyterian Church are two entirely different bodies. If you don't know what you're talking about, saying that it is "a fact" doesn't make you any more right. In fact, it generally weakens any point you might have had in the first place

Not really sorry if you are Church of Scotland then you are a Presbyterian, Presbyterianism is the religion, Church of Scotland is the title we give our church

The seperate one is the Free Presbyterian church

I'll bow to your greater knowledge on that subject. In fact, a quick check reveals your right! Pity I didn't think about it checking before posting, eh? However, not every Protestant Church is a Presbyterian Church, so to say that "You can not be a protestant until you have been baptised into the Presbyterian church" is still incorrect. I'd also like to know who gives grahamteuchter (or anyone else for that matter) the right to define what you must do to become a Protestant.

Your totally right i dont want to tell anyone how to live their lives, just to be as honest as possible about things that are really important to others

[Dietspam 733]

I wonder how many "Protestants" actually know what their religion is all about. Most just see it as another opposite to Catholic Celtic fans.

very true

takes nothing away from the true protestants though

Of course. I don't think I've ever met one though.

You've never met a church goer?

I've never met an actual Protestant Rangers fan.

Somebody bayonet this cunt !

Shhhhh.

[grahamteuchter 1]

No they dont. I sit govan front amongst plenty that dont feel the need to bring up any of the crap that some do. How the hell would you notice at Ibrox. No one sings anymore anyway unless we are playing the big teams

[bluepeter 5,627]

Your totally right i dont want to tell anyone how to live their lives, just to be as honest as possible about things that are really important to others

Now if more people only shared these sentiments...

[bluestilo 0]

I wonder how many "Protestants" actually know what their religion is all about. Most just see it as another opposite to Catholic Celtic fans.

very true

takes nothing away from the true protestants though

Of course. I don't think I've ever met one though.

You've never met a church goer?

I've never met an actual Protestant Rangers fan.

Then you should meet me then or others like me, i am and always have been a Rangers fan. I am also an elder in the Church of Scotland, and i for one, at

times take offence to certain fellow Rangers fans who use "our" religion to beat the so called kafflics over the head with, they then freak out when they find

that the religion they "love" and would "die" to defend includes such kafflick practices as communion. If you do not go to church, want to understand

your own religion, or even believe in God, then please do not pretend to be a Protestant as you know this may upset a member of the Roman Catholic faith.

We are Christians as are Catholics, if you want to scream abuse at someone because he or she is a celtic fan, then be my guest. But the use of my Church

must stop, if the celtic fans want to do it, let them. We are above that, and them, and always will be.

you talk some pish

you claim to be a church elder and if you are why would you believe we are above them

does your god not teach you that we are all the same no man is better than another

If you had read it right you would have ment above them as Rangers fans above celtic fans like i said keep the religion out

but how can someone who is an elder in church and believes in the same god as celtic fans think hes better than them

im allowed to think this because i believe in the religion of glasgow rangers

So because i believe in God and he says all men are equal, then im not allowed to have a favourate team, or a favourate set of fans, now whos talking pish

at least youve admitted to talking pish at the start thats me done my job for the night billy graham

Glad to see you revert to the usual name calling when someone can answer the crap you spout, thanks for not dissapointing me

if you think thats name calling wait till the ultras get a hold of you

you will need to get a thicker skin

oh and welcome to the board hope your stays a long one

lol cheers i think

[MisterC 12,481]

If you look at the Rangers support as a community it is the same as most communities where there is diversity in terms of different opinions and outlooks on life etc. The Rangers support is diverse and that has to be welcomed as it shows we are inclusive. However it is also true that while we may not all agree on certain issues such as is being discussed in this thread and may not like others views and no one is saying you should have to respect them but you should at least respect that persons right to have an opinion.

Further to BD's latest post I also doff my cap in appreciation of the succesful fishing expedition

[Danny 9]

I've merged all these threads now - all traditions, protestantism, religion stuff - plonk it all in here.

[BILLYSNOVO 5]

minstral.....

my friend,just got an email from a manufacturer looking for your 'secret'

box it! sell it and make a few bob!

they are mightily impressed with your landing rate!

the link is below

http://www.tacklebargains.co.uk/

and keep up the good work!

[minstral 5,375]

minstral.....

my friend,just got an email from a manufacturer looking for your 'secret'

box it! sell it and make a few bob!

they are mightily impressed with your landing rate!

the link is below

http://www.tacklebargains.co.uk/

and keep up the good work!

That made me laugh mate.