bluereason 13 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I would love to see Ally asking for a stronger scouting system before he is in the job. It annoys the sh*te out me that the mhanky mob are picking up players like Kayal, Commons, Izaguirre for transfer washers and have now gained ASSETS worth a lot more (to other EPL teams). I would like to see the scouting system totally overhauled and more emphasis attributed to it as there are plenty of bargains to be had if you put the research in. Just my opinion.....felt I had to get it out as its Friday night and Mr Smirnoff told me to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Fickens 425 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 We're definitely missing a trick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 and juarez and ki. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniemca 479 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 we dont have a scouting system because we cant afford one. we rely on agents videos and heresay, while the scum have set up a worldwide web of scouts and partnerships so they can bring in young players and sell them on for profit. just another example of why our club needs ripped apart and rebuilt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markybear 136 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Hooper is a steal at 1mill or whatever it wasBetter scouting of the championship and the lower English leagues is the way to go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastadon123 4 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 they have more scouts worldwide than we do, I have gone to several College games over here in the states and their were a few scouts there, mainly from the Englsih clubs but also 2 Celtic ones. We need to get our scouts out of scotland and into Asia and south America, its expensive but it will pay off in the end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasGers 96 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Mr. Smirnoff is a great guy Though it has to be said that we were in for Commons as well, I see what you mean. Balasz Dzsudzsak and Shinji Kagawa are two examples; both signed for half an Andrius Velicka, and now, a conservative estimate would put their combined value at close to £20m.....Yeah but if it was so easy to run out and find cheap players that turn into stars, I think more clubs would do it on a regular basis! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 338 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 they have more scouts worldwide than we do, I have gone to several College games over here in the states and their were a few scouts there, mainly from the Englsih clubs but also 2 Celtic ones. We need to get our scouts out of scotland and into Asia and south America, its expensive but it will pay off in the endRun into a couple myself here. Our scouting system is a shambles. Easy to spot players at Rugy Park or Tannadice when you're playing a half-dozen times a season, not so much when you maybe have to travel to watch someone. It's obvious we're throwing darts at the wall with talent abroad and hoping they stick. Joke for a club that needs to be able to turn profits on players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxin83 0 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Yeah but if it was so easy to run out and find cheap players that turn into stars, I think more clubs would do it on a regular basis! disagree all the best players once played for a wee club at some point, they don't just turn up at Man U or Barca with there possessions and say look i'm a superstar can i come in. There are plenty quality players out there who have not been discovered for 1 reason or another.Charlie Adam prime example at our club couldn't get a game played out of position some diddy wee club buy him for peanuts plays him in his correct position and voila. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa6995 3,686 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Do we actually have a Scouting System worthy of the name ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 The fact that Sandy Jardine seems to be a significant scout says it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksen_da_best 2,034 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Luck more than anything, we scouted svensson, and he was shit ! although he was hyped to be the next big thing!its just luck on how the player can adapt to scottish football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willcol 13 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Hooper is a steal at 1mill or whatever it wasBetter scouting of the championship and the lower English leagues is the way to goagreed, there must be plenty of players who would jump at the chance to play in europe and win medals with us and at the same time would put themselves in the shop window of the big EPL clubs and we could make a profit. better than relying on videos and agents who will clearly say there players are the dogs balls. WATP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 What is the point in having a scout when you can't afford to sign players?That's like paying for pet insurance but cannot afford a dog!Let the deal go through on the sale of the club and we might start to see a scouting system worthy of the Bears Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allanger 625 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 We don't have a scouting system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 IMO that just makes it even more important; it means that whenever the money becomes available, we have to make the very most of it.We spent close to £6m on Jelavic, Beattie and Weiss. Weiss and Jelavic have done well (the less said about Beattie the better), but with the right scouting system in place, we could have made that £6m go a lot further.Yep, with that £6M we could have sent a number of scouts on jollies around the World to stay in posh hotels and point out players we could have afforded if we did not waste money on scouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 How much do you think a scout would cost?!?!Well, you would have to pay their wages, expenses, accomodation and travel costs. So send one to South America for six months and you have a bloody big bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bob 3 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 We have a bright new dawn called Murray Park, who needs scouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMitch 4 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 At the moment we normally only sign players we play against or play in Britain.Jelavic was signed after taking Celtic apart in Europa league. I doubt we had looked at him before then.I'd like to see us scout the scandanavian countries as I feel good promising players can be found there for a reasonable price and they also have a good record of settling into Scottish lifestyle.We should also be looking at the South American market as a few gems can be found there.As another poster said, the problem we have is that we can't afford to sign players at the moment due to financial restraints but something has to be done to improve how we identify potential new players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest therabbitt Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Billy McLaren and Billy Marshall are both full time scouts we employ as part of the youth academy, scouting for players that wouldn't go straight into the first team. We also employ over 30 coaches and scouts on a part time basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemisis 358 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Billy McLaren and Billy Marshall are both full time scouts we employ as part of the youth academy, scouting for players that wouldn't go straight into the first team. We also employ over 30 coaches and scouts on a part time basis.We have a youth academy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest therabbitt Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 We have a youth academy?We do indeed, depending on how you define it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemisis 358 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 We do indeed, depending on how you define it?Ok I'm with you now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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