SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I'm sure someone on here got a hold of a document that showed the mhopes had had to put up Lennoxtown as a guarantor to the bank for their mounting debts.Already? Its just built. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_ger 1,454 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Chick Young : Shite pundit by day. Tax lawyer by night.It would seem had a good chuckle reading this! good work Ben! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senna 735 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Already? Its just built.I know, that's what made it seem so odd.It looked genuine and from what I recall, there weren't many voices disputing it, though I could be completely wrong on that point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_ger 1,454 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Chick Young is a daft faggot. How the fuck would he know about our tax case. The transaction for the club would not have happened without this being sorted beforehand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbroxybear 660 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I'm sure someone on here got a hold of a document that showed the mhopes had had to put up Lennoxtown as a guarantor to the bank for their mounting debts.Thats true it was theweissman who put it up i think on here the cunts are in a downward slope 4iar will be damaging for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I know, that's what made it seem so odd.It looked genuine and from what I recall, there weren't many voices disputing it, though I could be completely wrong on that point.Interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I'm sure someone on here got a hold of a document that showed the mhopes had had to put up Lennoxtown as a guarantor to the bank for their mounting debts. Was me. Their accounts are normally released end of August. Ours are normally released around October time.Their debt will be up on last year, thats for sure Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senna 735 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Was me. Their accounts are normally released end of August. Ours are normally released around October time.Their debt will be up on last year, thats for sure Top work sir. *doffs cap*Any chance of a re-up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekerrthebear 124 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 chick young is a shambles of a pundit, his opinions on anything football related are about as valid as my dog's, and he is dead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 12,206 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 If someone hadn't made me my sig, I'd have your quote as it. Fucking howling here. you can still get the quote underneath it you'd need to take it out of 4 lines and put it in one or two though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Top work sir. *doffs cap*Any chance of a re-up?And to ward off anyone who thinks its not real, i downloaded it straight from Companies House myself. This is 100% genuine and can be found by doing the following:Go here:http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/640eca4fd12e1a872e3e17fd181e28b9/wcframe?name=accessCompanyInfoType in SC003487 in the box saying company numberClick on "order information for this company"Put a tick in the box that says ORDER against the entry on 10/06/2011 that says MG01s.Pay a quid by credit card. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Full document can also be viewed here:http://www.scribd.com/doc/58478083/Celtic-Mortgage-10-06-11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senna 735 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Brilliant. Would rep you if I had some left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxfanalex 113 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 chick young is a shambles of a pundit, his opinions on anything football related are about as valid as my dog's, and he is dead.Really sorry to hear about your dog m8. As for Chick Young, Walter and Archie Knox tore him a new one every interview he attempted and basically told him to ask X,Y & Z or fuck off. I'll never forget when the players pissed off in his BBC hire car and left him stranded for 3 hrs sucking his thumb. Chick's a has been-that never was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissg910 110 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 i dont have a clue about the tax case, but mr whyte said in an interview it will be another 3 or 4 yrs before we know the final outcome due to the lenthy appeals process. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 the day we see money being set aside in the accounts to cover this is the day to be worried. that's not happened yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 the day we see money being set aside in the accounts to cover this is the day to be worried. that's not happened yet.Not according to Chick Young QC Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Not according to Chick Young QC he's just gutted whyte took over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMotor 2,208 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I reckon we will lose the case. Havent a clue on the amount though. If it was as straight forward as you and others think, surely it wouldnt be moving into its 5th and 6th week of evidence though.Thats the bit im concerned about. I just think that if it was so clear cut, then the case would have been thrown out already. For it to last into its 6th week, then clearly there is a case against us. Ive dealt with and looked at EBT's before myself and they are a minefield. They are only legal if you operate them legally. The fact we havent yet proved we have lends itself to something being wrong.You are right though, the amount of the fine is unknown and could be two bob and an tangerine. Sorry for the multi-quote, just trying to gather these together as they are all relevant. I actually reckon we will win the case but I agree that it is not straightforward. The problem being that we don't know the nature of the EBT used by Rangers. There are multiple permutations, all of which have different tax calculations. Also, the two big cases, HMRC vs Dextra and HMRC vs SEMPRA, that people are referencing, were two very different cases with very diferent outcomes. It should be noted that in the DEXTRA case, the pursuing agent for HMRC was named Ronald MacDonald, so...........Anyway, the key point is: I wouldn't take the time involved as any indication of where this is going. Including court cases and appeals, the DEXTRA case ran for over 3 years, with only one point of several still being disputed when it got to the House of Lords. The SEMPRA case ran for nearly 2 years before HMRC withdrew their court case.In both cases, the initial HMRC hearings ran for longer than ours has so far. The annoying thing is that after the Special Commission ruled against the HMRC in both cases, they headed straight to court to try and reverse the decision.Finally, Chick Young is a cunt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopersLeftBoot 4 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Finally, Chick Young is a cunt.Lol, this quote can be used quite validly in ANY post!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 he's just gutted whyte took over.In a nutshell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric_Caldow 60 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Sorry for the multi-quote, just trying to gather these together as they are all relevant. I actually reckon we will win the case but I agree that it is not straightforward. The problem being that we don't know the nature of the EBT used by Rangers. There are multiple permutations, all of which have different tax calculations. Also, the two big cases, HMRC vs Dextra and HMRC vs SEMPRA, that people are referencing, were two very different cases with very diferent outcomes. It should be noted that in the DEXTRA case, the pursuing agent for HMRC was named Ronald MacDonald, so...........Anyway, the key point is: I wouldn't take the time involved as any indication of where this is going. Including court cases and appeals, the DEXTRA case ran for over 3 years, with only one point of several still being disputed when it got to the House of Lords. The SEMPRA case ran for nearly 2 years before HMRC withdrew their court case.In both cases, the initial HMRC hearings ran for longer than ours has so far. The annoying thing is that after the Special Commission ruled against the HMRC in both cases, they headed straight to court to try and reverse the decision.Finally, Chick Young is a cunt.After going through your post carefully it would seem that your final conclusion is in fact spot on. He is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 After going through your post carefully it would seem that your final conclusion is in fact spot on. He is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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