Jimfanciesthedude 24,986 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Would you lot rather that he fucked off and left our debt with the bank again, you know the bank im talking about, the bank that were about to enforce even more cuts to the wage budget if we didnt find a buyer, the bank that only allow spending on the team when we take in multi millionsThe bank that were looking after their own and not the good of rangers football clubHonestly get a fucking grip, rangers had almost the same squad that went to old trafford for a point when we fucked it up against malmo, its an embarrassment that we made a cunt of that tie at Ibrox, and tonight capitulation was down to one man coming back into the team againYou know it wouldnt matter if we signed xavi or iniesta, mcculloch would still play and they two would be put out wide The fault for our piss poor start to the season lies at the players, but mostly at the door of mccoist who it seems hasnt a clue about his best 11 (he's had all summer) and cannot see the obvious when it comes to his midfield problemsRemember also that McCoist hasnt focused on the midfield at first, its no good saying "we wanted goodwillie and cuellar", goodwillie cant do fuck all for us when our midfield are posted missing, and cuellar would STILL be injured to this dayBefore Whyte came in we were talking about selling any prized assets this summer to reduce the wage bill and debt level, but yeah lets have a diog at the guy that saved us from doing this Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 I thought this was directed at Al-Qaeda Agreed,we would have seen Davis,Shagger,Papac,Whittaker and Bougherra all leave IMO if Lloyds were still calling the shots.I'll give him time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulRFC1 115 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Agreed.Also I find it incredibly sad that you solely blame McCulloch for getting beat yesterday.Nothing to do with changing to a 4-4-2 and playing Davis wide right ?It just shows peoples true hate of the man when he is getting the blame for yesterday and players like Edu and Wallace who cost the first goal, Jelavic who missed a sitter and Davis who was pish don't take flak from you.Get a grip ffs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tavish 1 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Agreed also, however it was clear last night you get what you pay for and we are shocking. Should still hump them at the Brox but cmon, i could have got 11 lads from work to beat that shower Maribor last night! Reality is Whyte or Bill Gates the SPL is a joke and we will continue to get worse as long as we are in SPL. Anyone who says otherwise is living in a dreamworld. As who wants to come and play against shite like Inverness, Dundee Utd etc and play in front of crowds of 6,000 every other week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Would you lot rather that he fucked off and left our debt with the bank again, you know the bank im talking about, the bank that were about to enforce even more cuts to the wage budget if we didnt find a buyer, the bank that only allow spending on the team when we take in multi millionsThe bank that were looking after their own and not the good of rangers football clubHonestly get a fucking grip, rangers had almost the same squad that went to old trafford for a point when we fucked it up against malmo, its an embarrassment that we made a cunt of that tie at Ibrox, and tonight capitulation was down to one man coming back into the team againYou know it wouldnt matter if we signed xavi or iniesta, mcculloch would still play and they two would be put out wide The fault for our piss poor start to the season lies at the players, but mostly at the door of mccoist who it seems hasnt a clue about his best 11 (he's had all summer) and cannot see the obvious when it comes to his midfield problemsRemember also that McCoist hasnt focused on the midfield at first, its no good saying "we wanted goodwillie and cuellar", goodwillie cant do fuck all for us when our midfield are posted missing, and cuellar would STILL be injured to this dayBefore Whyte came in we were talking about selling any prized assets this summer to reduce the wage bill and debt level, but yeah lets have a diog at the guy that saved us from doing this we often talked about selling our prized assets (well the tims and the press did)but we never really did.I didn't want to be bought by anyone that left us with the same feelings of uncertainty that we had over the last two years but that is exactly what Whyte has done. Why is the first tax bill not being paid ?I don't believe the way we have conducted ourselves in the transfer market this summer suggests we have any real cash to spend, what is our actual net spend ? He needs to start doing his business behind closed doors instead of saying poorly thought out nonsense to the press about us signing every one of our targets by 31st August.Like Mccoist, only an idiot would write him off right now, he'll get his chance but like his manager he needs to up his game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Agreed.Also I find it incredibly sad that you solely blame McCulloch for getting beat yesterday.Nothing to do with changing to a 4-4-2 and playing Davis wide right ?It just shows peoples true hate of the man when he is getting the blame for yesterday and players like Edu and Wallace who cost the first goal, Jelavic who missed a sitter and Davis who was pish don't take flak from you.Get a grip ffs.Nothing to do with Davis playing right, everything to do with davis being inconsistent....Davis has played plenty of fantastic games on the right for Rangers..his best performances for the club have came out there Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,986 Posted August 19, 2011 Author Share Posted August 19, 2011 Agreed.Also I find it incredibly sad that you solely blame McCulloch for getting beat yesterday.Nothing to do with changing to a 4-4-2 and playing Davis wide right ?It just shows peoples true hate of the man when he is getting the blame for yesterday and players like Edu and Wallace who cost the first goal, Jelavic who missed a sitter and Davis who was pish don't take flak from you.Get a grip ffs.watch last nights game again and tell me one instance in the second half where big lee got anywhere near their midfield. He was miles off the pace and every thing they tried in the second half came through their midfield 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulRFC1 115 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Nothing to do with Davis playing right, everything to do with davis being inconsistent....Davis has played plenty of fantastic games on the right for Rangers..his best performances for the club have came out thereDisagree, he has far more influence on the game when he is played in the middle.It was fine doing it when we had Mendes and Ferguson in the middle but he really needs to be playing in the middle.His best performance came in the cup final when he played in the middle and as a team we perform better when he is in the middle and surely that is not a coincidence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Would you lot rather that he fucked off and left our debt with the bank again, you know the bank im talking about, the bank that were about to enforce even more cuts to the wage budget if we didnt find a buyer, the bank that only allow spending on the team when we take in multi millionsThe bank that were looking after their own and not the good of rangers football clubHonestly get a fucking grip, rangers had almost the same squad that went to old trafford for a point when we fucked it up against malmo, its an embarrassment that we made a cunt of that tie at Ibrox, and tonight capitulation was down to one man coming back into the team againYou know it wouldnt matter if we signed xavi or iniesta, mcculloch would still play and they two would be put out wide The fault for our piss poor start to the season lies at the players, but mostly at the door of mccoist who it seems hasnt a clue about his best 11 (he's had all summer) and cannot see the obvious when it comes to his midfield problemsRemember also that McCoist hasnt focused on the midfield at first, its no good saying "we wanted goodwillie and cuellar", goodwillie cant do fuck all for us when our midfield are posted missing, and cuellar would STILL be injured to this dayBefore Whyte came in we were talking about selling any prized assets this summer to reduce the wage bill and debt level, but yeah lets have a diog at the guy that saved us from doing this whytes made a lot of promises he hadn't delivered on. he's got two weeks to deliver or he's just another Murray. all mouth no trousers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Disagree, he has far more influence on the game when he is played in the middle.It was fine doing it when we had Mendes and Ferguson in the middle but he really needs to be playing in the middle.His best performance came in the cup final when he played in the middle and as a team we perform better when he is in the middle and surely that is not a coincidence.you can disagree all you want, facts are factsNo way his best performance for Rangers was in that league cup final...that's just a game you can remember. He has had far better performances all on the right.It's no excuse for th guy, he has turned up in europe once...at a push twice...that i can remember, the rst of the time he hasn't kicked his own arse.As our most talented player (well him or Jelavic) that is unacceptable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beattie72 170 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Anyone who wants McCoist or Whyte out are a fucking disgrace. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulRFC1 115 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 you can disagree all you want, facts are factsNo way his best performance for Rangers was in that league cup final...that's just a game you can remember. He has had far better performances all on the right.It's no excuse for th guy, he has turned up in europe once...at a push twice...that i can remember, the rst of the time he hasn't kicked his own arse.As our most talented player (well him or Jelavic) that is unacceptable.What facts ?Tell me his best performance then.The past 2 seasons our best football has came when Davis played in the middle, the end of last season and the December period of the 2009/2010 season.And in Europe we play totally different, name an attacking player who has thrived in Europe for us since Walter came back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 The buck stops with the manager and players if we lose to the likes of Malmo and Maribor, no one else. We have more thna enough quality to easily see them off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazbo27 15 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 The buck stops with the manager and players if we lose to the likes of Malmo and Maribor, no one else. We have more thna enough quality to easily see them off.I agree but the players have to take a lot of responsibility, why was naismith whipped off because Ally felt there was a chance he could have got himself sent off, which IMO was correct. Players need to really look at themselves. I have real belief that next week we will hump this mob and then another ten negative threads which have been opened last night and today can all fuck off! I agree everyone is entitled to their own opinions but the knee jerk reactions are phenomenal, we are rebuilding patience will be required! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangeclement 578 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 The buck stops with the manager and players if we lose to the likes of Malmo and Maribor, no one else. We have more thna enough quality to easily see them off.Thats what Palermo thought last year ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Would you lot rather that he fucked off and left our debt with the bank again, you know the bank im talking about, the bank that were about to enforce even more cuts to the wage budget if we didnt find a buyer, the bank that only allow spending on the team when we take in multi millionsThe bank that were looking after their own and not the good of rangers football clubHonestly get a fucking grip, rangers had almost the same squad that went to old trafford for a point when we fucked it up against malmo, its an embarrassment that we made a cunt of that tie at Ibrox, and tonight capitulation was down to one man coming back into the team againYou know it wouldnt matter if we signed xavi or iniesta, mcculloch would still play and they two would be put out wide The fault for our piss poor start to the season lies at the players, but mostly at the door of mccoist who it seems hasnt a clue about his best 11 (he's had all summer) and cannot see the obvious when it comes to his midfield problemsRemember also that McCoist hasnt focused on the midfield at first, its no good saying "we wanted goodwillie and cuellar", goodwillie cant do fuck all for us when our midfield are posted missing, and cuellar would STILL be injured to this dayBefore Whyte came in we were talking about selling any prized assets this summer to reduce the wage bill and debt level, but yeah lets have a diog at the guy that saved us from doing this people are in denial with the banks and the situation we were in, to the extent that we would be better with the banks, thats insane, id rather be certain whee we are instead of constant uncertainty about everything at the club.Not only whyte but Mcoist need time too instead of folks calling for his head, as sad as that sounds it is all down to given people time to bed in and try and make a change Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 None of this mess is Whytes doing , he's paid off debt , gave the manager money and will for another two weeks .Where Whyte is guilty is for falling for all the hype about giving McCoist the job in the first place .......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 None of this mess is Whytes doing , he's paid off debt , gave the manager money and will for another two weeks .Where Whyte is guilty is for falling for all the hype about giving McCoist the job in the first place ..........no he hasn't...How much money has he given the manager ? What's the net spend ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 watch last nights game again and tell me one instance in the second half where big lee got anywhere near their midfield. He was miles off the pace and every thing they tried in the second half came through their midfield 2To be fair to mculloch he made a blinding tackle around the 80th minute mark about 10 yds out from our goal and if they never got that last goal which was the fault of others other than him then he wouldnt be really talked about, i just think ally thought an injured lee is better than a young player in europe, dont know why Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulRFC1 115 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 watch last nights game again and tell me one instance in the second half where big lee got anywhere near their midfield. He was miles off the pace and every thing they tried in the second half came through their midfield 2He was fine in the first half.In the second half when did Davis get near them ? or Edu ? it was to do with tactical changes and in the second half our midfield as a whole just lost that battle.You pinned that entire result on McCulloch coming into the side which is simply ridiculous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 no he hasn't...How much money has he given the manager ? What's the net spend ?No Debt and still two weeks to go for transfers !None of this mess is anything to do with Whyte , although i do agree he must be thinking long and hard if he wants to give McCoist any more money ......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmalade1872 40 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 None of this mess is Whytes doing , he's paid off debt , gave the manager money and will for another two weeks .Where Whyte is guilty is for falling for all the hype about giving McCoist the job in the first place .......... he's payed off fuck all debt he just transfered it to his name that means if we go tits up with the taxman he is right at the front to get payed once the assets are hawked Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 he's payed off fuck all debt he just transfered it to his name that means if we go tits up with the taxman he is right at the front to get payed once the assets are hawked Do we still pay crazy interest rates to Lloyds for a £30m loan ?????????Cant believe Whytes getting stick on here , where would we be if he never came in ???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliangus 0 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 whyte put his money up when no one else wouldits a new era at the club Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigie79 67 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Does anybody else think it would be foolish of us to go spending 5+ million on players when we have this tax case and the impending 90 days notice of insolvency hanging over us?The less we spend just now the more we will have in the bank and with the 16 mil champs league cheque we should have a good bit in the bank, the less chance we will have of becoming insolvent if we lose the case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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