WaltersGotStyle 178 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Over the last few years we have seen countries such as England and Spain get further and further out of site. This has led us to the position where we pray that one day England invite us to be part of the party, I myself was never in favour of an Atlantic League when it was first proposed however now I think it has to be seriously considered as the state of Scottish football is at an all time low.I mean imagine the following league set upRangersCelticAjaxFeyenoordPSVBrondbyAIK StockholmIFK GöteborgCopenhagenRosenborg Where the bottom club was relegated and their spot could then be challenged by the top team in their related domestic league in a playoff.This would be far more exciting than the SPL at the moment.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 We can wave goodbye to Champions League/Europa League though. Even if we qualify UEFA won't sanction an Atlantic League so won't allow us entry to their competitions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltersGotStyle 178 Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 We can wave goodbye to Champions League/Europa League though.Would we have to...UEFA have proven time and time again they are all about money... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 87,430 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 The money that would be spent by fans every season would be horrendous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Would we have to...UEFA have proven time and time again they are all about money...UEFA have stated time and time again that they won't sanction an Atlantic league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beattie72 170 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I've been hearing about this league ever since I was 8 years old. I am now 23 and still no progress. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltersGotStyle 178 Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 UEFA have stated time and time again that they won't sanction an Atlantic league.Times change...The CL is now predictable, and fans of smaller clubs will become disillusioned by the fact their team have no chance of winning it.I think you would be surprised how quickly UEFAs tune would change if this was to move forward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Times change...The CL is now predictable, and fans of smaller clubs will become disillusioned by the fact their team have no chance of winning it.I think you would be surprised how quickly UEFAs tune would change if this was to move forward.I can't see it. I hope you're right but I think it's highly unlikely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I thought everyone was bored of a 10 team league? Also, who outside of the countries involved would pay to watch the likes of Brondy v AIK?I can't see any proposal such as this generating anywhere near the money that would be needed to make up for no UEFA involvement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltersGotStyle 178 Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 I thought everyone was bored of a 10 team league? Also, who outside of the countries involved would pay to watch the likes of Brondy v AIK?I can't see any proposal such as this generating anywhere near the money that would be needed to make up for no UEFA involvement.If you were involved in a league with them you would... I mean who outside of Scotland gets their rocks off to St Mirren vs. Dunfermline...You could even propose a second tier with the Edinburgh clubs involved... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltersGotStyle 178 Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 The principle of rounding up the big teams from the small leagues is a good ide in theory, but there are a few drawbacks.1) We have a great away support, but asking them to shell out at least £100 for flights to Scandanavia/Holland every other week is pushing it.2) Under your scheme, the likes of Twente and AZ would be screwed, as there would be very little chance of a Dutch club getting relegated. Instead, you'd probably have a new sub-par Swedish team every year.3) UEFA might be all about the money, but they're not idiots. If they call our bluff, and refuse to acknowledge this league, then we're screwed. If that goes, then there's not much incentive to push on with it.Second tier would be an option...I truely believe UEFA would cave as the gap in income across the leagues is at an all time high. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesaidnototheprovos 75 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Over the last few years we have seen countries such as England and Spain get further and further out of site. This has led us to the position where we pray that one day England invite us to be part of the party, I myself was never in favour of an Atlantic League when it was first proposed however now I think it has to be seriously considered as the state of Scottish football is at an all time low.I mean imagine the following league set upRangersCelticAjaxFeyenoordPSVBrondbyAIK StockholmIFK GöteborgCopenhagenRosenborg Where the bottom club was relegated and their spot could then be challenged by the top team in their related domestic league in a playoff.This would be far more exciting than the SPL at the moment....Negatives far outway the positives in Uefa's eyes.Not only will it kill the leagues in these countries.No champions league involvement for any of these teams.Fans having to travel 100's of miles to away fixtures every other week.What will then stop the 'big' leagues breaking up. Likes of top 4 in england, germany, italy, and spain. - If this happened then the Atlantic league would have no appeal and we would be back to where we started. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIESEL RFC 32 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 U could add teams from belgium in there also,could easily be a good 16 team league!Sounds good to me but a long way off I think Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoody 103 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Travel companies would need to make major concessions to travelling fans to make this financially feasible for your average fan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper 182 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Over the last few years we have seen countries such as England and Spain get further and further out of site. This has led us to the position where we pray that one day England invite us to be part of the party, I myself was never in favour of an Atlantic League when it was first proposed however now I think it has to be seriously considered as the state of Scottish football is at an all time low.I mean imagine the following league set upRangersCelticAjaxFeyenoordPSVBrondbyAIK StockholmIFK GöteborgCopenhagenRosenborg Where the bottom club was relegated and their spot could then be challenged by the top team in their related domestic league in a playoff.This would be far more exciting than the SPL at the moment....Cant see this working- the "relegated" team wouldnt be allowed to return to the league they had originally turned their back on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 If you were involved in a league with them you would... I mean who outside of Scotland gets their rocks off to St Mirren vs. Dunfermline...You could even propose a second tier with the Edinburgh clubs involved...Seriously, I wouldn't watch St. Mirren v Dunfermline if they were playing outside my window, nevermind pay for the privilege.The original proposal for this set-up also included Portuguese teams, but considering their success in European competitions they wouldn't be interested and that removes a lot of the appeal to the viewing public.For me, going it alone in this way isn't a viable option. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Seriously, I wouldn't watch St. Mirren v Dunfermline if they were playing outside my window, nevermind pay for the privilege.The original proposal for this set-up also included Portuguese teams, but considering their success in European competitions they wouldn't be interested and that removes a lot of the appeal to the viewing public.For me, going it alone in this way isn't a viable option.This Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Stevens Fan Club 42 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Although some are saying that there would be no CL entry - I would say that most of the teams on that list are not guaranteed to qualify for it each year anyway.Because of the uncertainty of qualifying for the CL each year, then there is no financial stability for forward planning.Whilst the Atlantic League would probably not reap the same rewards as Champions League participation - the income (including TV income) would be considerably more than what we currently get domestically. This income would be assured annually, create stability and would help the club with its future financial planning.What we have at the moment is a cut-throat gamble where if successful we get £15-£18M, but when not successful we are threatened with having to make reductions in playing staff/salaries and having to consider gambling again for participating in the CL the following year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxiblue 18 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 probably wouldnt have to many traveling support,but IBROX would be FULL every other week,would improve standards and players would be less likly to want to leave every transfer window.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JograBear 1,082 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 No champions league football would discourage good players from coming to us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber 177 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 why don`t we have 1 competition with every team from their main league (TOP DIVISION)taking part.it would be drawn like the scottish cup,just one game with extra time and penalty shoot out in the event of a draw at the end of 90 minutes. it would also mean attacking football in order to win the game.the winners of the competition would then rightly be called THE EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone 328 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Who says these other clubs are remotely interested??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Stevens Fan Club 42 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Who says these other clubs are remotely interested???Must admit, that's something I've thought about aswell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesaidnototheprovos 75 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 why don`t we have 1 competition with every team from their main league (TOP DIVISION)taking part.it would be drawn like the scottish cup,just one game with extra time and penalty shoot out in the event of a draw at the end of 90 minutes. it would also mean attacking football in order to win the game.the winners of the competition would then rightly be called THE EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS!!!This would have less appeal than the europa league in my opinion. Likes of man utd and barca will just play kids in these games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 For me the only option I think might come available is the English league. BTW if I could I'd start at league one or two right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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