gunslinger 270 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 no centre halves whatsoeveragainst blackburn they had carrick and jones there, and the lone yakubu battered them from pillar to postcan't see why your arguing then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Who decides what a player's natural position is?me. but only in response to a hand delivered written request. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Mustard 380 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 If Ally really doesn't trust them already then he made an incredibly poor error in signing them, it was only in the summer after all. Managers need to sign players they're sure they'll have no problem playing.His other signings have worked out fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Mustard 380 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 My issue is when several different positions are used to find a spot for shite like McCulloch.Others have a more general objection to players being played in different positions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 His other signings have worked out fine.Yes, but it doesn't really justify us wasting wages like we are doing with other signings of his. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 If Ally really doesn't trust them already then he made an incredibly poor error in signing them, it was only in the summer after all. Managers need to sign players they're sure they'll have no problem playing.Doesn't always happen straight away at Rangers for players for whatever reason look at Naismith at one time he looked like a very poor buy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Doesn't always happen straight away at Rangers for players for whatever reason look at Naismith at one time he looked like a very poor buy.Naismith still got games, injury held him back more than anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre 1,663 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Sometimes it's not ideal to play a player "out of position", but sometimes needs must, and sometimes you end up accidentally (or by design) hitting the jackpot by doing it.It's not needs must though in our case, we're playing players that aren't good enough to get a game in their natural position in positions that are alien to them whilst we have players on the bench that should be coming on.For those of us with shorter memories, Lovenkrands during his last few months here. Aye, when we accidently played him in the position he'd been saying was his preferred position for years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GERS82 5 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 It's ok to play players out of position of they have any basic ability but we were getting murdered in midfield off average teams , we were superb the last 10 games last season mainly because certain players were injured & we were forced to play a more attacking game 2 wide men & 2 up front in there natural positions Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JograBear 1,082 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Why is there such a reluctance for some to accept players being played in more than one position?I dont think the problem is playing players in more than one position. The problem is playing players in positions they are not made for. ie. Papac in CM. Bartley at CF. Ortiz at LM. Bartley at RB. etc etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 My issue is when several different positions are used to find a spot for shite like McCulloch.McCulloch is the perfect example of where playing a player in any position weakens this argument. Outside left, centre half, holding midfielder and he hasn't excelled in any of them. The more interesting aspect of McCulloch's career was the admission that until he came to Rangers he had been unable to hold down a regular position at previous teams. If in cases of emergency a full back has to play centre half or vice versa then so be it. However if you look at Broadfoot at right back or centre half then it's fair to say he is distinctly average in both positions.And the midfield issue is where for me the argument falls apart at Rangers. Putting in players who are defenders ahead of midfielders was a public admittance from McCoist that the players he signed were not good enough...or are they? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garycassidy1802 37 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Another one was Khizanishvili, think the only place I didn't see him was in goals, he was excellent.The only thing that annoys me is the cost of bringing McKay to the club, yet I think even Neil Alexander would get put into midfield before he would. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Maybe we should be asking what the problem is with these players, that they aren't being played?McCoist keeps getting it in the neck for not playing them, but he's got good performances out of his other signings, and has no problem playing Goian, Bocanegra, Wallace, Aluko etc.. Is there some kind of attitude issue with these two that stops Ally from playing them?I don't have a clue about it, but everyone seems to prefer knocking the manager on the subject, while the players themselves aren't having questions asked of what's wrong with them.100% agree and that last line - thats the question we should all be asking - and not double guessing the manager.I also dont get the out - of position thing - or natural position, these days it should be called most played position or most comfortable even but all teams, even top teams, have a good number of players who are comfortable in a number of roles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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