Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 when HMRC used the ring fenced money didnt the media say the 15mill we owed from this year INCLUDED the small tax casenow they are saying that we owe 15mill to HMRC from this year not including the small tax case,if so where the fuck did the ring fenced 2.7mill go?Also we owe Man City 300k for Weiss? considering we got him on loan in the summer of 2010 just how the fuck do we still owe them money? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1872 3,708 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Also we owe Man City 300k for Weiss? considering we got him on loan in the summer of 2010 just how the fuck do we still owe them money?Most likely we paid a fee to take him on loan for a year, or were supposed to have paid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 Most likely we paid a fee to take him on loan for a year, or were supposed to have paid.i know we would have been charged a fee, simply how the old regime never paid this i dont know Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcoast Al 1 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 No the small tax case was not contested in court by D&F and it was paid in full from the ring fenced monies to the HMRC.The 9-12 million is all new from when CW took over (VAT, PAYE, interest etc.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1872 3,708 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 i know we would have been charged a fee, simply how the old regime never paid this i dont knowLooking through the list of creditors and what not mate, I also simply don't know how half of them are on there.It's worrying that the people in charge let the debt run up like this but I find it hard not to lay the majority of the blame at Craig Shyte's door - BTC+WTC aside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 Could some or all of that figure not be from signing those twins last year?STV said it was related to weiss' loan deal Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 No the small tax case was not contested in court by D&F and it was paid in full from the ring fenced monies to the HMRC.The 9-12 million is all new from when CW took over (VAT, PAYE, interest etc.)so why is the small tax case now being listed as an unknown debt? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 On tv?I've no idea then, if we still owe them 300K, how much did we pay to get him on loan?that was probably the full amount, just why it wasnt paid in 2010 i dont knowwe are a fucking shambles Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albluenose1990 29 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 On tv?I've no idea then, if we still owe them 300K, how much did we actually pay to get him on loan?!We paid £700k mate, so obviously paid just over half of it to them in summer 2010. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 is the £14m + the £9m all from craig whyte? I find it hard to believe that is all from craig whyte. Would that not be more owed in taxes than what we pull in from season tickets? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 when HMRC used the ring fenced money didnt the media say the 15mill we owed from this year INCLUDED the small tax casenow they are saying that we owe 15mill to HMRC from this year not including the small tax case,if so where the fuck did the ring fenced 2.7mill go?Also we owe Man City 300k for Weiss? considering we got him on loan in the summer of 2010 just how the fuck do we still owe them money?it didn't. the whyte fanbhoys said it did though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 it didn't. the whyte fanbhoys said it did though.actually it was the media, fuck all to do with either haters Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 actually it was the media, fuck all to do with either haterstrust me the fanbhoys were all over it despite little or no evidence. whyte said it iirc just another lie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMotor 2,208 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 so why is the small tax case now being listed as an unknown debt?The money ringfenced for the small tax case was released by Rangers to HMRC to pay some of the PAYE debt accrued under Whyte, lowering the new obligations but leaving the debt on the wee tax case unpaid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 The money ringfenced for the small tax case was released by Rangers to HMRC to pay some of the PAYE debt accrued under Whyte, lowering the new obligations but leaving the debt on the wee tax case unpaid.yeah but at the time many media outlets were saying that we owed HMRC 15mill this year including the small tax case Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 yeah but at the time many media outlets were saying that we owed HMRC 15mill this year including the small tax casebecause whyte said it. it was quickly proven to be as honest as the other things he said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMotor 2,208 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 yeah but at the time many media outlets were saying that we owed HMRC 15mill this year including the small tax caseSorry, meant to say VAT debt, not PAYE. I don't think anyone knew the exact figure before. I saw reports of 9 mill, 12 mill and 15 mill, I think it changed by source. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Sorry, meant to say VAT debt, not PAYE. I don't think anyone knew the exact figure before. I saw reports of 9 mill, 12 mill and 15 mill, I think it changed by source.the record had the full story from duff and Phelps iirc it was 15 million. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWM1216 20 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 I think some of the HMRC figures quoted by D&P will include potential penalties too so the original figures will be difficult to extrapolate unless fully broken down....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Just who has been running the Club for the last Ten Years? We have been run like the MOD Fucking Incompetent.We have Invested Millions on Players Wages, and then been selling them on For Peanuts.Shelling out loads of Money without any decent Returns .The Mind Boggles at Times.That, and the Drip Feed of Shysters such as Murray, Bain and then the Latest Character Whyte.We have been Haemorrhaging Money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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