OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I think we're all familiar with the banner in question. It mocks our "death", labels us as zombies and shows an IRA style gunman taking aim a the zombie emerging from the grave. The introduction of the IRA style gunman raises the issue of sectarianism. Given that the IRA intentionally targeted British civilians purely for being Brits in British town centres that they selected to bomb, it also raises a racist element to the banner.Furthermore, the depiction of a backward and perverted version of human evolution is making a claim that we are somehow genetically and therefore racially distinct and sub-human. Surely that in itself is a very clear racist slur.However, will the authorities and media see it that way? I recall how the famine song was mis-portrayed. Had this been our banner against them, all of the above claims would be made loudly and publicly. The media silence on this particular aspect is striking. It tells its own story. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,512 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 spot on mate, the creator of this banner knew what message was being put out there and yes will the authorities or any media outlets have the bottle to print the truth, I doubt it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger50champ 300 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I think we're all familiar with the banner in question. It mocks our "death", labels us as zombies and shows an IRA style gunman taking aim a the zombie emerging from the grave. The introduction of the IRA style gunman raises the issue of sectarianism. Given that the IRA intentionally targeted British civilians purely for being Brits in British town centres that they selected to bomb, it also raises a racist element to the banner.Furthermore, the depiction of a backward and perverted version of human evolution is making a claim that we are somehow genetically and therefore racially distinct and sub-human. Surely that in itself is a very clear racist slur.However, will the authorities and media see it that way? I recall how the famine song was mis-portrayed. Had this been our banner against them, all of the above claims would be made loudly and publicly. The media silence on this particular aspect is striking. It tells its own story.As usual Oleg your spot on with your post.Had a chat with rodent yesterday and his words were 'how can you guys be offended by that'Its not for me to decide what offends each individual but the double standards and hypocrisy is so typical of these lying cheating vermin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 How many British Polis did the pira murder ?How many British Polis were in the stadium of blight ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 As usual Oleg your spot on with your post.Had a chat with rodent yesterday and his words were 'how can you guys be offended by that'Its not for me to decide what offends each individual but the double standards and hypocrisy is so typical of these lying cheating vermin.Same as 99% of Bears, I am not offended by their shite banner. But I am offended by their repeated offence of anything that is RFC.By the way - see now they know their limitations. To prevent any spelling errors, they use pictures.Trash they are - the worst decision was our forefathers letting them in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Its just a bit of fun.Doused with flammable hypocrisy of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8watp8 254 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 spot on, the poor us attitude is starting to get boring, always the innocent wee bhoys who are targeted for sectarianism in any way shape or form from us How the famine song was banned i'll never know, the famine is over and the majority of them are plastic paddies so why don't they go home?Its a sad day when a "dublin loyal, behind enemy lines" isn't aloud into ibrox and i wasn't aloud to bring a royal standard to an old firm yet they can wave irish, palestine and any other country's flag, they can jump up and down and sing about the ira the taliban argentina and everything else.Bring back the days where these cunts would be hung for treason, scotland needs to open its eyes to these rebel bastards, do you think they would get the same treatment in england? it fucking sickens me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_n1 536 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Dont think we should be discussing anything to do with them on hereany timmy crawling on here will be well chuffed thats its been given a threadnothing against the op but its a typical bit of timmy propagandaignore it and dont even acknowledge that we even know they exsist Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I think we're all familiar with the banner in question. It mocks our "death", labels us as zombies and shows an IRA style gunman taking aim a the zombie emerging from the grave. The introduction of the IRA style gunman raises the issue of sectarianism. Given that the IRA intentionally targeted British civilians purely for being Brits in British town centres that they selected to bomb, it also raises a racist element to the banner.Furthermore, the depiction of a backward and perverted version of human evolution is making a claim that we are somehow genetically and therefore racially distinct and sub-human. Surely that in itself is a very clear racist slur.However, will the authorities and media see it that way? I recall how the famine song was mis-portrayed. Had this been our banner against them, all of the above claims would be made loudly and publicly. The media silence on this particular aspect is striking. It tells its own story.front page and back page news in the record yesterday - there is no media silence on this abhorrent banner Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 front page and back page news in the record yesterday - there is no media silence on this abhorrent bannerSlated by all of Clyde presenters last night as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellofollow 1 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 As usual Oleg your spot on with your post.Had a chat with rodent yesterday and his words were 'how can you guys be offended by that'Its not for me to decide what offends each individual but the double standards and hypocrisy is so typical of these lying cheating vermin.I get offended every time the bastards draw a breath. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_ger 1,454 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Should our club make a complaint and statement about it? I don't think I have seen the banner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_n1 536 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Slating it and condemning it is one thing,,,will there be any punishment for it is another thing altogether Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 front page and back page news in the record yesterday - there is no media silence on this abhorrent bannerDid they accept that it had racist overtones?However, will the authorities and media see it that way? I recall how the famine song was mis-portrayed. Had this been our banner against them, all of the above claims would be made loudly and publicly. The media silence on this particular aspect is striking. It tells its own story. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 The filth can't live without Rangers.These ppl were born to hate.Give them a while with no natural enemy within the SPL and their dump will begin to empty,regardless of Europe(which in nearly over anyway).Maybe the media are beginning to open their eyes to 'Septic bigotry',and not before time but I won't hold my breath. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMac 1,405 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Dont think we should be discussing anything to do with them on hereany timmy crawling on here will be well chuffed thats its been given a threadnothing against the op but its a typical bit of timmy propagandaignore it and dont even acknowledge that we even know they exsistBut timmy propaganda works. We've failed miserably by ignoring them for years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Hablo Inglés 32 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Did they accept that it had racist overtones?How can it be racist when we are both, generally, caucasian and the banner does not target any specific race?I don't condone the banner in any way but I just think claiming it as racist is both futile and over the top. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 How can it be racist when we are both, generally, caucasian and the banner does not target any specific race?I don't condone the banner in any way but I just think claiming it as racist is both futile and over the top.In your opinion, was the famine song racist? Was it considered racist by the media?In your opinion, is it unreasonable to ask for the same standard to apply?In your opinion, does that standard apply in this case? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Hablo Inglés 32 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 In your opinion, was the famine song racist? Was it considered racist by the media?In your opinion, is it unreasonable to ask for the same standard to apply?In your opinion, does that standard apply in this case?I don't believe the famine song is racist in any way, no, and to be honest I don't remember the media coverage but I will take your word for it that it was considered racist. This however is just the tabloid media stirring shit to sell papers as it always does, I think it is easier to make the racist accusation when the target is clearly of one background (not race), such as Ireland, than if it merely targets a football club which is open to all backgrounds, races etc and is a choice to join. Again I want to state that it is certain in my opinion that neither are racist, just that if the media wants to exaggerate either it is much easier to rationalise with the famine song.I think the cases are, while similar on the surface, too fundamentally different to compare as such, but I am sure if Celtic began to sing regularly and widely about murdering British citizens the media (who are British) would jump on it the same way as it will sell papers.Just my two cents. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Will Follow Rangers 13,020 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 racism is perpetuating derogatory racial stereotypes.telling them to go home isnt racist, telling them to go home because they all stink is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkiBunny 441 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 racism is perpetuating derogatory racial stereotypes.telling them to go home isnt racist, telling them to go home because they all stink is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkinator 611 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I wasn't offended by the banner, just as um sure not all nappy rippers were offended by the famine song, however, if they can get that banned, there is no difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_ger 1,454 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Just seen the banner. The symbolism is clear. They're the ones that campaigned for freedom of speech to be censored at football matches. They have to play by the rules too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyd09 390 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Scum utter Scum, seems they can do what they want and fuck all happens , it will be a wee slap on the wrist and small fine. And as for this irish away strip they have launched today irish cross the fuckin lot scum, if we talk about an orange kit or union jack strip we would be stripped points the fuckin lot , i know we have class and The Rangers Way but it just fucking annoys me .Rant over Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 Scum utter Scum, seems they can do what they want and fuck all happens , it will be a wee slap on the wrist and small fine. And as for this irish away strip they have launched today irish cross the fuckin lot scum, if we talk about an orange kit or union jack strip we would be stripped points the fuckin lot , i know we have class and The Rangers Way but it just fucking annoys me .Rant overThe Celtic Cross is a far right symbol, used by many fascists across Eastern Europe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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