Big Al 55 9,526 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 He's talking about 4 out of contracts in September and new players in January next year, so maybe he thinks we can win a cup and get in that way.I think we may well be good enough to win a cup, my response was regards to a post suggesting on our return to top league we will have a squad of similar strength to ?()£@IMO it will take longer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Fair play to him for looking at every and all opportunities for us as a club but its my understanding its as black and white as you need 3 years if audited accounts to play in European competition...I don't see how we can get round this but as green would say no harm in asking! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,624 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 It might take a while, so he may as well get the ball rolling,eh?green has more pressing matter though, this will be the first year of audited accounts, so that only leaves another 2 to get our euro licence back, by then we most likely still wont have a proper euro capable team imoDont you think our squad could be equal or better than cellic's current squad in two years time ?No not a chance imo, we will still be in the scottish football doldrums so getting euro capable players will be near impossible, even fast tracking us to the SPL wont be good enough as we would still have to gel a team and i dare say it, see how good ally has become as a manager as his previous euro experiences with us have been abysmal Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Surely if we are victims of a criminal then that has to have some bearing?It wont reverse the newco though, unless UEFA agree to exempt us from the 3 years accounts rule which is unheard of, then again our situation has been a unique event never happened to a major European giant before so maybe they will. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Sporting merit which is in their rules. He also mentioned Europe on the prospectus.Never heard of that in uefas rules, i thought it was just another celtik piece of doublespeak like sporting integrity, how would it affect us then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 It wont reverse the newco though, unless UEFA agree to exempt us from the 3 years accounts rule which is unheard of, then again our situation has been a unique event never happened to a major European giant before so maybe they will.Green claims he is negotiating with UEFA over it, so either he is lying or there's a possibility; otherwise why would UEFA bother negotiating, they would surely save themselves time and hassle by just saying "no". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Green claims he is negotiating with UEFA over it, so either he is lying or there's a possibility; otherwise why would UEFA bother negotiating, they would surely save themselves time and hassle by just saying "no".Im not questioning Charles honesty im just wondering what form a deal to drop the European ban would take. Perhaps it has something to do with this sporting merit that Peter mentioned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 1,011 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Wrang thread Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,513 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Never heard of that in uefas rules, i thought it was just another celtik piece of doublespeak like sporting integrity, how would it affect us then?It's there mate and I don't know if any club have played in Europe using it. Personally I believe if a club from a lower division wins themselves a euro place and other evidence is produced to show that club was guilty of fraudulent activity then I believe sporting merit could take precedence.Can you imagine if a brand new lower league club from anywhere in Europe wins a national cup and doesn't get a shot at Europe the following season. due to paperwork. That would be tragic and isn't what the ethos of the game is all about. Football first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 12,259 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 fuck all this euro talk nonsense until we are actually at a decent level in scotland eh, its a good dream and clearly they bastards run this season has whetted greens appetite to see that at ibrox, but lets not try to run before we can even walk properlyQuite!If our efforts against those Euro-giants from Dundee are a yardstick, a more embarrassing than last year's early exit may loom! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Eh let's focus on building a team the rest will come with what success we get at this point, focus on the team and players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.12 508 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Wrang threadDiddy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 It's there mate and I don't know if any club have played in Europe using it. Personally I believe if a club from a lower division wins themselves a euro place and other evidence is produced to show that club was guilty of fraudulent activity then I believe sporting merit could take precedence.Can you imagine if a brand new lower league club from anywhere in Europe wins a national cup and doesn't get a shot at Europe the following season. due to paperwork. That would be tragic and isn't what the ethos of the game is all about. Football first.Cheers mate i hope your right will be great to have the big European nights to look forward to again, even the Europa League fills me with anticipation Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Im not questioning Charles honesty im just wondering what form a deal to drop the European ban would take. Perhaps it has something to do with this sporting merit that Peter mentioned.Well, like I said: there must be something. Why would UEFA even open a dialogue on the subject if not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,513 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Well, like I said: there must be something. Why would UEFA even open a dialogue on the subject if not.Your right and although it is a long shot, it will never happen unless you bring it to the table for discussion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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