Fighting BBC Scotland, Cancel Your TV License Today .

[Uncle Fester 186]

I dnt think thats true BT

She's 100% correct.

[WWTC 2,256]

She's 100% correct.

If you dont watch the tele, then yes she is. But its wrong to suggest the TV license mob have no power, its the law of th land ffs, if you want to watch the TV in the UK you need a license.

[WWTC 2,256]

If you are going to advise people on this matter, you should at least make your information correct. You need a licence to legally watch "ANY" TV program live or recorded live, not just BBC. If they come to your door, simply close it in their face, and do not speak to them.

And thats the end of the matter eh...ffs

[Fools Gold 488]

From the TV licensing website:

The requirement to hold a TV Licence and to pay a fee for it is mandated by law under the Communications Act 2003 and Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004 (as amended). It is an offence to watch or record television programmes as they are being shown on any channel and on any broadcast platform (terrestrial, satellite, cable and the internet) without a valid TV Licence.

I wouldn't risk it.

[gogzy 31,195]

There are some really good vids on utube showing the tv license people getting their balls chewed at front doors.

Apparantly you cant be criminally convicted for not paying thw license. Because its a civil matter and not criminal.

[WWTC 2,256]

There are some really good vids on utube showing the tv license people getting their balls chewed at front doors.

Apparantly you cant be criminally convicted for not paying thw license. Because its a civil matter and not criminal.

Thats nonsense mate, if your found to be watching a tele without paying £12.12 a month, you can be prosecuted, have a criminal record, and in extreme cases end up locked up. There was a big hoo haa about it last year.

I did look into it, if i could avoid paying it i would, but why risk it for £3 a week.

[gogzy 31,195]

Thats nonsense mate, if your found to be watching a tele without paying £12.12 a month, you can be prosecuted, have a criminal record, and in extreme cases end up locked up. There was a big hoo haa about it last year.

I did look into it, if i could avoid paying it i would, but why risk it for £3 a week.

The vids I am talking about, the guys don't get past the front door, even with a police escort.

[gogzy 31,195]

The vids I am talking about, the guys don't get past the front door, even with a police escort.

Watch that. The police tell the TV license people thay can not get involved in a civil matter.

[WWTC 2,256]

Watch that. The police tell the TV license people thay can not get involved in a civil matter.

Thats great viewing mate, thanks. Certainly given me alot to think about, those guys have clearly done their homework.

Only thing id point out is that its far easier to obtain evidence that your using your television to watch broadcasts if your simply trying to wing it. I mean, how many people nowadays dont watch the TV? How would you explain the sky/virgin contract, or the big tele on the wall that yi can see from the street!

Great viewing though, as i say.

[gogzy 31,195]

Thats great viewing mate, thanks. Certainly given me alot to think about, those guys have clearly done their homework.

Only thing id point out is that its far easier to obtain evidence that your using your television to watch broadcasts if your simply trying to wing it. I mean, how many people nowadays dont watch the TV? How would you explain the sky/virgin contract, or the big tele on the wall that yi can see from the street!

Great viewing though, as i say.

You don't have to admit to being the same person that has the virgin contract, you dont even have to tell them your name

As for owning the TV, thats perfectly legal. It could be hooked up to a bluray player.

You just don't let them in the door to find out if you can view live TV or not.

here is another good one.

[Iron Curtain 60]

I don't listen to the BBC Scotland (or BBC anywhere for that matter) sports programmes, nor do I watch their TV coverage of sport. They are, in my view, not to be trusted. They have pursued a blatently anti-Rangers agenda and, from the info on these threads, are still doing so. And giving air-time to those who want to peddle their anti-Rangers thinking and to peddle their own agendas. No proper balance it seems and no proper moderation it seems. And very far from how a public broadcaster should be behaving. But then that is not new and that's why I won't listen to their sports programmes or watch their TV football coverage.

And as for Doncaster (and Regan for that matter) - in my view it is clear and has been for a long time now that they do not have the competences, leadership skills, dignity,integrity or credibility to be leading the football organisations they represent. Other than for the SPL clubs of influence who they represent, and the ring-leader of those clubs I do not see why any other club in Scotland would trust the leadership of either man. But they remain in office, and there has been no challenge to their leadership whatsoever. So I can only conclude that clubs in Scotland are indeed happy with the leadership they provide and are willing to be led by the proverbial noses in whatever direction Doncaster and Regan lead them. And because they remain in post I assume that the anti-Rangers agenda will continue, and that the BBC and other media outlets will continue to give them the platform to speak from. How on earth any Director from Rangers could ever sit in a meeting with either Regan or Doncaster and expect it to be constructive and meaningful is a stretch of the imagination far beyond belief. Seems to me that it does not matter what they say, how often they demonstrate incompetence, how plain daft their plans for reconstruction are - the Scottish football clubs other than Rangers seem to be quite content with that level of performance. In any other organisation CEOs performing in the way these 2 have done would have been replaced by now. But this is Scottish football and it has its own agenda and needs its own pet-poodle front men to pursue that agenda.

Worth a bump, tremendous chat.

[Rangers Lady 2,380]

Thats nonsense mate, if your found to be watching a tele without paying £12.12 a month, you can be prosecuted, have a criminal record, and in extreme cases end up locked up. There was a big hoo haa about it last year.

I did look into it, if i could avoid paying it i would, but why risk it for £3 a week.

I think you may find I'm right.

Why risk it ?

I think if we could even manage 1000 cancellations London would have to sit up and take notice..

[WWTC 2,256]

I think you may find I'm right.

Why risk it ?

I think if we could even manage 1000 cancellations London would have to sit up and take notice..

London would take notice to an additonal 1000 people deciding against paying a TV license? I doubt that considering TV license evasion makes up for one tenth of all magistrate court cases.

I understand what you saying, and Gogzy provided two excellent videos, the first one really is must see stuff, but if you think everyone and anyone can just press ahead with cancelling their DD and theres nothing anyone can do about? Id say thats probably wrong.

[Rangers Lady 2,380]

London would take notice to an additonal 1000 people deciding against paying a TV license? I doubt that considering TV license evasion makes up for one tenth of all magistrate court cases.

I understand what you saying, and Gogzy provided two excellent videos, the first one really is must see stuff, but if you think everyone and anyone can just press ahead with cancelling their DD and theres nothing anyone can do about? Id say thats probably wrong.

That would be people who didn't know their rights and allowed the BBC all the access they wanted but are not legally entitled to.

This is a small sacrifice for the fight

[james1690 29]

Since having my own house ( 6 years now ) ive never payed for a tv licence nor will i ever pay for one.

Rarely do i watch the tv as most of the time the kids watch there dvds or im playing xbox.

The license people have only ever came to the house once and were told i use the tv for use of computer only. They tried telling me that regardless of what i use it for, if i have a tv i need to pay for a license so at that point i repeated why i have a tv, thanked them for coming out to see me and closed the door and i havnt heard a thing from them since and that was years ago.

[broxi74 127]

I've been refusing to pay it ever since I found out they re imbursed jimmy saville for pay offs he made to abused children!

[gogzy 31,195]

I've had my own house for 15 years. Never once paid for a full TV license. A couple of times they have came to the door, I have agreed to payment plan and then bumped it. Touch wood, but I have had no fines or court action against me in those 15 years.

[tannerall 25,935]

Most people will continue to pay the license as it is a tradition and legal obligation unfortunately, so do not expect the BBC to suffer from a sudden rush of license non-payments.

However the BBC is part of the bigger media industry in Scotland so another way to get back at these guys is to stop supporting the journalists who are allowed to spout their pish on the BBC by not buying their newspapers. Also tuning out of the cellic minded radio stations will soon hit the sponsors and ratings, which will have an effect.

BBC cannott support all the media tainted rabble on its own. So we should not make it easier for the rest of the biased scottish sporting media to support the rabble..

[Uncle Fester 186]

If you dont watch the tele, then yes she is. But its wrong to suggest the TV license mob have no power, its the law of th land ffs, if you want to watch the TV in the UK you need a license.

Wrong again it's not a law it's an act check your facts and get back to me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwsOLZdQ0YE

[Uncle Fester 186]

Thats great viewing mate, thanks. Certainly given me alot to think about, those guys have clearly done their homework.

Only thing id point out is that its far easier to obtain evidence that your using your television to watch broadcasts if your simply trying to wing it. I mean, how many people nowadays dont watch the TV? How would you explain the sky/virgin contract, or the big tele on the wall that yi can see from the street!

Great viewing though, as i say.

None of them can be used for evidence, my nephew has stopped paying and has a Sky contract, but if you don't admit to watching and refuse them their "implied right of access" which is your right they are fucked..Fact!

[Uncle Fester 186]

No you wouldn't.

How do you know?

[SteveJ 743]

I posted this in another thread about this:

So because one or two twats from the BBC make their ill feelings towards Rangers known, we should cancel our TV licence?

There is no package on Cable or Sky that comes without the need for a TV licence, so in theory you are telling people to stop watching tv and go back to the wireless days - oh wait, you need a licence for that too! We can just sit and read the newspapers then, except for any that have Spiers or Cosgrove writing for them, then there is Chic Young, Charlie Nicholas etc.

You seem to think that every Bear will be happy to cut their nose of to spite their face and I am afraid most Bears are not that bloody stupid. You only have to look at the thread regarding Rangers using Bob Marley music to interpret a situation at Rangers - most Vears could not give a shit about the fact Marley is a supposed Tim.

My wife watches Eastenders and River City. I am not going to start to hold a conversation with her when these are being aired and she has nothing to do because I cancelled the licence.

Rangers are my club, and my life would be a disaster without them but I have loved ones in my life also. To that degree, I will not allow Rangers to rule my life or affect my wife and child. I will simply opt out of reading pish from journo's that have ill feeling towards my club and continue to sign petitions to that effect.

[WWTC 2,256]

Wrong again it's not a law it's an act check your facts and get back to me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwsOLZdQ0YE

If its not law, how can you be prosecuted? Charged? Fined? Jailed?

[Loyal Bear 72 363]

I would say the BBC are failing in their own mandate. I would sympathise with anyone not wanting to fund it in any way.

Just so your aware. Another option is to stick to On-Demand or Catch-up TV. No license is required. If you really felt the need to watch something you can catch it on BBC iPlayer, STV Player etc. That way you're not funding the BBC directly.

[WWTC 2,256]

That would be people who didn't know their rights and allowed the BBC all the access they wanted but are not legally entitled to.

This is a small sacrifice for the fight

150,000 people a year dont know their rights?