JamieD 20,031 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 DiCanio will flop at Sunderland.But he will make the training run on time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottBF2 3,540 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Funnily enough, I don't recall Milliband speaking out when James McClean made his 'political' statement by refusing to wear a shirt with a poppy on it.I don't think Jews give a fuck about tarriers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Paolo Di Canio has been appointed head coach of Sunderland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 75,666 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Paolo Di Canio has been appointed head coach of Sunderland.Really? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Really?Yup on SSN. 2 year deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue68 2,497 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Sunderland be mad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 He'll keep them up Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Blue_Flash 390 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Odd choice was suprised Martin got sacked again Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Also, you know, he's a Jew He's resigned his Westminster seat over it too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 17,148 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Middle-class "socialist" in takng the moral high ground shock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 20,031 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Middle-class "socialist" in takng the moral high ground shock.Why shouldn't a middle-class person be a socialist? "Sorry Dad, I can't actually argue with your theories, and I know you were a poor immigrant who survived the Warsaw ghetto and that's great, but I don't have it so bad, so I'll be a Tory instead" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 17,148 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Why shouldn't a middle-class person be a socialist? "Sorry Dad, I can't actually argue with your theories, and I know you were a poor immigrant who survived the Warsaw ghetto and that's great, but I don't have it so bad, so I'll be a Tory instead" Real socialists worked in the mines and the shipyards and wore bunnets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Why shouldn't a middle-class person be a socialist? "Sorry Dad, I can't actually argue with your theories, and I know you were a poor immigrant who survived the Warsaw ghettoand that's great, but I don't have it so bad, so I'll be a Tory instead" That never happened though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Real socialists worked in the mines and the shipyards and wore bunnets.That's Real Sociedad you're thinking of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 17,148 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 That's Real Sociedad you're thinking of.Tongs Ya Basque. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 20,031 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Real socialists worked in the mines and the shipyards and wore bunnets.I don't think you answered my question. Should the children of "real socialists", who find themselves in more fortunate circumstances, abandon the righteous ideals of their parents? Is your idea of an ideal world one in which miners are treated like strangers by the educated children of miners? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Tongs Ya Basque. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 20,031 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 That never happened though! All right, I could do with brushing up on my detailed knowledge of Ralph Miliband's early years, but the point stands Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I don't think you answered my question. Should the children of "real socialists", who find themselves in more fortunate circumstances, abandon the righteous ideals of their parents?He did. His old man is a Marxist, he's a Blairite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 20,031 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 He did. His old man is a Marxist, he's a Blairite.I'm not claiming Miliband is anybody's idea of a true socialist. I'm just wondering why his "class" should be a factor in whether or not we should despise him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 All right, I could do with brushing up on my detailed knowledge of Ralph Miliband's early years, but the point stands Your point lies in the rubble of the West London Ghetto! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 20,031 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Your point lies in the rubble of the West London Ghetto! His grandparents lived in the Warsaw ghetto. I knew there was some ghetto shit going on somewhere in the Miliband annals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I'm not claiming Miliband is anybody's idea of a true socialist. I'm just wondering why his "class" should be a factor in whether or not we should despise him.I don't despise him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 17,148 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I don't think you answered my question. Should the children of "real socialists", who find themselves in more fortunate circumstances, abandon the righteous ideals of their parents? Is your idea of an ideal world one in which miners are treated like strangers by the educated children of miners?Are there any miners left?Actually that's an interesting question you ask. My late father-in-law was a Lanarkshire miner and a strong union man. His son, my brother-in-law, is a London barrister, the epitome of a middle-class professional. By choice he works for a trades union. It must be in the genes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 20,031 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I don't despise him.Aye, but I was asking harlands plater, not you, so pipe down Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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