We Do Not Need McColl,King,Blin

[SteveJ 743]

Steve what about the running costs involved re players/staff police/stewards cost insurances and simple things like bills.

How much did Broadfoot get for leaving , Edu how much did he get and Boca and The Romanian (name <img data-cke-saved-src="http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/f_<img src=" src="http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/f_<img src=" http:="" forum.rangersmedia.co.uk="" public="" style_emoticons="" default="" f_.gif'="" class="bbc_emoticon" alt="">.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />) he much did we pay towards them being out on loan.............we paid for Templeton and cleared other football debts ...........so really it's not as if £30 mil was there from day 1.

The bank balance as at december 31st 2012, was £21m. This was after all those events you speak of. So, where did the £21m go, if that is an easier question for you?

[SteveJ 743]

Do you also agree that noone can justify £760k a year managing in Div3, not least giving us the worst results in our history? Its a fucking gravytrain for then all, not just the baddies

£760k a year is a disgrace for any manager of a football team but if I were to expect it, I would expect a top Premiership manager to get it, not the Rangers manager who competes in Div 3. As far as I remember, I am sure CG gifted Ally 1m shares as a bonus, also.

[Edmiston Drive 3,846]

The bank balance as at december 31st 2012, was £21m. This was after all those events you speak of. So, where did the £21m go, if that is an easier question for you?

I haven't added them up as I have not seen the actual figures nor have I been privvy to any bank statements hence willing to wait until audited accounts are signed off.

You seem to suggest Gary that the money has been stolen?

[gogzy 31,195]

I tell you what we don't fucking need.

Threads like this.

There are a lot of threads we don't need, and lots I cant be arsed with. Guess what? I don t read them.

The thread is titled appropriately enough that you know exactly what you are coming in to read, no one is making you read it ( and I doubt you even read the OP before posting)

Without threads like this the forum would be barren from day to day. It's all about opinions and you don't get forced to read anyones, you chose which threads you open.

[loyalfollower 1,543]

Good post by the op. My trouble is I always look at both arguments. I hate not being able to pick one side or the other. Every other day we see negative spin on the board and then I think back to the stories on whyte that we totally ignored because of the media that reported them.

One way or another I just want football to be the main focus

[RFC Eagle 4,888]

How the hell is it a ridiculous comparison? CW told us everything was okay and it went tits up. CM has told us everything is okay and this month will tell us if he is being truthful. However, if he is being truthful, why did Stockbridge lie to those in attendance in the meeting?

I think you might call it being cautious after being shafted once or twice before.

Nobody knows how much CW put in but as he paid £1xx k into Imran's account, he paid more than the £25k that Charles Green put in. Don't get me wrong, I detest that slimey wee prick but I remain open minded on the current board also.

Of all the people in this farce the only one where both sides have a degree of consensus (Ally and Walter included) that Craig Mather is working for Rangers best interests. CM paid £1 million for shares (I wasn't referring to CG).

Some of your post is a little confused your comparison was between Craig Mather and Craig Whyte yet you now bring spurious information about CG and IA. CW paid NOTHING from his own pocket (well £1) to take control of Rangers just to clarify the point I was making.

The statements by Brian Stockbridge at the meeting and Craig Mather in his interview are not in any way contradictory. £10 million in the account NOT including all the season ticket money (as some assumed) and with further income due. How does CM being right make BS a liar?

Your caution is understandable but your leaping to conclusions and assumptions are signs that you have already taken a view and refuse to properly evaluate each sides view.

[Resting in my account 231]

How the hell is it a ridiculous comparison? CW told us everything was okay and it went tits up. CM has told us everything is okay and this month will tell us if he is being truthful. However, if he is being truthful, why did Stockbridge lie to those in attendance in the meeting?

I think you might call it being cautious after being shafted once or twice before.

Nobody knows how much CW put in but as he paid £1xx k into Imran's account, he paid more than the £25k that Charles Green put in. Don't get me wrong, I detest that slimey wee prick but I remain open minded on the current board also.

CW owned and ran the club, Mather is CEO of an AIM company.

[8Ace 49]

Why is blin this god of all things accounts...................christ you pay his fees and someone down in the basement does the work.

And why do you think he got to be up top while others do the work? Any company would be glad to have people of the stature of Blin and McColl on board in even the smallest capacity.

How many people currently involved with the club are on the same level as those two?

[Bears r us 31,000]

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[Edmiston Drive 3,846]

And why do you think he got to be up top while others do the work? Any company would be glad to have people of the stature of Blin and McColl on board in even the smallest capacity.

How many people currently involved with the club are on the same level as those two?

One got lucky re a bid at the right time the other is an employee used to employ accountant from a bigger firm that his as is shown by the Clubs Accountants.

Funny thing is guys in Blins line of business will tell you it a great job as it lets you see what the good businesses are and gives you ideas, but very very very few of them have the guts to leave the cosy world they live in.

[Edmiston Drive 3,846]

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Post of the thread my friend.............................I know it's a mobile thing

[Resting in my account 231]

And why do you think he got to be up top while others do the work? Any company would be glad to have people of the stature of Blin and McColl on board in even the smallest capacity.

How many people currently involved with the club are on the same level as those two?

McColl isn't getting involved, think he took up a stewarding position at Thistle

[SteveJ 743]

Of all the people in this farce the only one where both sides have a degree of consensus (Ally and Walter included) that Craig Mather is working for Rangers best interests. CM paid £1 million for shares (I wasn't referring to CG).

Some of your post is a little confused your comparison was between Craig Mather and Craig Whyte yet you now bring spurious information about CG and IA. CW paid NOTHING from his own pocket (well £1) to take control of Rangers just to clarify the point I was making.

The statements by Brian Stockbridge at the meeting and Craig Mather in his interview are not in any way contradictory. £10 million in the account NOT including all the season ticket money (as some assumed) and with further income due. How does CM being right make BS a liar?

Your caution is understandable but your leaping to conclusions and assumptions are signs that you have already taken a view and refuse to properly evaluate each sides view.

I brought IA into it because it was his account that the CW money went to; not at all difficult to work out.

[SteveJ 743]

CW owned and ran the club, Mather is CEO of an AIM company.

That may be so but the comparison is both have told us that Rangers is in good hands. CW was proved to be a lying twat and some people are claiming that CM is going to be found to be the same. As I said, time will tell and the clock is ticking for the accounts to land on the desk.

[RFC Eagle 4,888]

I brought IA into it because it was his account that the CW money went to; not at all difficult to work out.

You are struggling to understand that that has no relevance to Craig Mather I guess? Again how much did CW pay to take control of Rangers from David Murray?

I'm starting to think you are being deliberately obtuse in the construction of your replies to basic questions. Its a tactic that is all to common these days and something I will not engage in.

Maybe all the spin and wild speculation has caused your confusion?

[SteveJ 743]

You are struggling to understand that that has no relevance to Craig Mather I guess? Again how much did CW pay to take control of Rangers from David Murray?

I'm starting to think you are being deliberately obtuse in the construction of your replies to basic questions. Its a tactic that is all to common these days and something I will not engage in.

Maybe all the spin and wild speculation has caused your confusion?

How am I being obtuse? You are the one that keeps changing his bloody question. First you asked me how much CW 'invested' in Rangers and after I answered that, you are claiming I am not answering your new question of how much CW paid SDM for control of Rangers.

Not me being obtuse, but we are never going to agree on much and there is absolutely no point in me continuing this debate with you - until the accounts are out and we have clear understanding of where we are. Until then, try sticking to the same question with others on here and you may get a decent debate out of it.

[JWAC 2,267]

The problem is it's so incessant on every bears forum it means there'll never be consensus in the online support.

I'm 100% in favour of a supporters trust, not "the supporters trust", just a supporters trust that enables us to gain some form of influence in the club. However anyone who says this is automatically assumed to be a "Dingwall lacky" depending on what forum you're on (I had to google that as I couldn't remember who he was).

I despise the fact FF retypes "Vanguard Bears" to xxxxxxx, it's childish, pathetic and not what I'd expect from a trust founder, no matter if it is apparently a "non affiliated web site".

There seems to be a few people though who shout loud and do fuck all other than prevent "a supporters trust" from succeeding, if those people have such an issue with certain people, challenge them but do it officially and not through snide internet nonsense. I mean that both ways, if the RST has issues with whoever else I want to see their reasoning, I want to vote and decide whether they are talking shite or not and whether it's personal agenda

When I say officially, I mean through the trust. It is the only officially registered supporters direct trust we have, so if you have issues with who's on the board, challenge them otherwise we'll be going round in circles for years and at the mercy of whatever capitalists we have to suffer.

What do you lose not doing this? Stand up and be counted if you think those "in charge" are wrong

In regards to Dave King, I just don't get the OP, in fact it's utter tripe.

Dave King invested heavily and not for personal gain, he called out David Murray and then lost what he invested, he probably foresaw this

He is obviously a wealthy bear who's willing to invest and wasn't able to when we were liquidated. That's a fact

I know the op does aswell but he has got an obsession with all of these idiots ie Paul Murray the RST etc..........

Obviously something has happened in the past with Ed and these people he's going on about but posting it on here all the time is boring.

[RFC Eagle 4,888]

How am I being obtuse? You are the one that keeps changing his bloody question. First you asked me how much CW 'invested' in Rangers and after I answered that, you are claiming I am not answering your new question of how much CW paid SDM for control of Rangers.

Not me being obtuse, but we are never going to agree on much and there is absolutely no point in me continuing this debate with you - until the accounts are out and we have clear understanding of where we are. Until then, try sticking to the same question with others on here and you may get a decent debate out of it.

You talked about CW covering up the situation when he was in control. Are you that hard of thinking that linking his investment in Rangers to the time he was lying and Craig Mathers level of investment when you suggest he may be lying doesnt click?

Yet still you peddle the CW link to CG when the link has been dismissed. I didnt change my question you chose your own spin on it.

The thing we can agree on is that the accounts will be decisive. Try joined ip thinking and sticking to a single point and your ability to debate will be greatly improved.

[Resting in my account 231]

The problem is it's so incessant on every bears forum it means there'll never be consensus in the online support.

I'm 100% in favour of a supporters trust, not "the supporters trust", just a supporters trust that enables us to gain some form of influence in the club. However anyone who says this is automatically assumed to be a "Dingwall lacky" depending on what forum you're on (I had to google that as I couldn't remember who he was).

I despise the fact FF retypes "Vanguard Bears" to xxxxxxx, it's childish, pathetic and not what I'd expect from a trust founder, no matter if it is apparently a "non affiliated web site".

There seems to be a few people though who shout loud and do fuck all other than prevent "a supporters trust" from succeeding, if those people have such an issue with certain people, challenge them but do it officially and not through snide internet nonsense. I mean that both ways, if the RST has issues with whoever else I want to see their reasoning, I want to vote and decide whether they are talking shite or not and whether it's personal agenda

When I say officially, I mean through the trust. It is the only officially registered supporters direct trust we have, so if you have issues with who's on the board, challenge them otherwise we'll be going round in circles for years and at the mercy of whatever capitalists we have to suffer.

What do you lose not doing this? Stand up and be counted if you think those "in charge" are wrong

In regards to Dave King, I just don't get the OP, in fact it's utter tripe.

Dave King invested heavily and not for personal gain, he called out David Murray and then lost what he invested, he probably foresaw this

He is obviously a wealthy bear who's willing to invest and wasn't able to when we were liquidated. That's a fact

I fully support the idea of a supporters trust, just without its contamination.

[SteveJ 743]

I didnt change my question you chose your own spin on it.

How much did Craig Whyte 'invest'

Again how much did CW pay to take control of Rangers from David Murray?

Of course you did not change your question

[JWAC 2,267]

Not sure if it's just how I'm interpreting your post but you make that sound permanent? (I mean, permanently contaminated)

AFAIK they have yearly elections, people should join and oust whoever they feel aren't needed but in an official manner.

I fully support the idea of a supporters trust, just without its contamination.

[TheDetails 98]

Great post OP

It does not matter a shit who joins our fecking board someone will just start a pile of shit and they will be ousted anyway.

These millionaires some billionaires can put the money up and do the job.

By the way don't start on why should he pay when he doesn't have to crap either.

That is like you waiting till the new tops out before buying the bloody old one to save £30!!!!

[Plug1 5]

"the people who stood up when needed" .That's were it breaks down for me ,as I don't believe any one else

Except the ppl lined up by CW had any chance of getting in .

Just my opinion .

[JWAC 2,267]

No offence but is there anyway those words can be organised into anything that makes sense? I sort of get what you're trying to say for some reason but it looks like yoda playing scrabble

Great post OP

It does not matter a shit who joins our fecking board someone will just start a pile of shit and they will be ousted anyway.

These millionaires some billionaires can put the money up and do the job.

By the way don't start on why should he pay when he doesn't have to crap either.

That is like you waiting till the new tops out before buying the bloody old one to save £30!!!!

[8Ace 49]

McColl isn't getting involved, think he took up a stewarding position at Thistle

Like it or not, he is involved in the current machinations for power.