folkestoneger 8,143 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 An interest in opposition to immigration on spurious grounds being accepted uncritically. I never said that controlling immigration is racist. Deporting people who are legally here on no other grounds than that they are foreign is racist. Disregarding whatever value they might have to the country on the grounds that they aren't one of us is clearly racist.A dictionary records what a word means, it doesn't promote a meaning. When the meaning evolves, so does the dictionary's definition. Besides, you defined racism but you didn't define race. Let's go to the OED:"1.1 A group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group:"Which is what I said.They would not necessarily be legally here if we left the EU as their residence is based on an EU law. Would it still be racist to remove, not deport, people who were here illegally?Even if we accept your definition of race it still doesn't make it racist to remove them as they would be removed because of what they are not ie British rather than what they were. It would be a purely legal matter of non citizens not having an automatic right to stay Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,322 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Worst attempt at PR since and the infamous 'P*ki' comment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,952 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 They would not necessarily be legally here if we left the EU as their residence is based on an EU law. Would it still be racist to remove, not deport, people who were here illegally?Even if we accept your definition of race it still doesn't make it racist to remove them as they would be removed because of what they are not ie British rather than what they were. It would be a purely legal matter of non citizens not having an automatic right to stayYes, when they arrived here it was legal. Retroactively applying the law specifically to remove people now deemed undesirable simply because they are foreigners would be racist. I am quite comfortable in calling it that. And I'm confident that my opinion would be quickly confirmed by the same people who would excuse such a policy conveniently not feeling the same way about British people overseas being treated in the same manner by foreign countries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,287 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 very misunderstood is Malkkky Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 very misunderstood is MalkkkyDave Whelan gets him."This is a racist chairman hiring a racist manager," Vincent Tan told BBC Sport's David Ornstein. "I hope that stops at two racists in Wigan, not snowballing to 2,000 or 20,000 racists in Wigan." Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewhitesettler 2,711 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I'm 55 now, and feel that the older I get, the less tolerant I become. This does not mean I'm getting more racist, just think that we're becoming more easily offended. A word, like 'chink' only becomes racist when used in a derogatory, or threatening manner.Therefore calling people of Asian ethnicity is not racist if used in a non-confrontational way (IMHO)I could be uttering pish here, & maybe we do get more racist the older you get, & don't get me started about the 'shirt-lifters' Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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