Jimfanciesthedude 25,077 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Brackley Bluenose said: He’s playing tonight 🤣 so my original point stands. He’s been training full contact with the team since pre season started, he’s just not been given the opportunity to play. It’s been over a year since his surgery, almost 14 months actually. He played 45mins against brighton was it 😂😂 Brackley Bluenose 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,451 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Jimbeamjunior said: What killie away, the one where goldson sold the winner? The same game he also cost a goal, yes? And, was shite like the rest Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,703 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 11 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: We went man for man at the back and I've more confidence in Balogun than Helander for that. I do think Helander on the whole is better than Balogun on defending when it's 2 CHs v 1 forward Why? He's might have pace but he isn't even 1/4 the defender Helander is. It was an insane decision. real boydie9 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,703 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 4 hours ago, ForeverAndEver said: Stop fucking asking for it Are you crying? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,451 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Just now, King Jela said: Are you crying? No, close to it through the pain of seeing that though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,703 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 minute ago, ForeverAndEver said: No, close to it through the pain of seeing that though We would have won if Katic was playing imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR3 12,780 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 22 hours ago, psb07158 said: Filip Helander is our best defender. Connor Goldson has been awful to start this season. I like big Leon but he's not at the required level for the CL. Gerrard needs to stop fucking around with the GK and CB positions. McGregor, Goldson and Helander has to start every single game where available. We are conceding absolute fucking shiters and the defence has to build confidence again and quickly. If he wants to make changes it has to be Patterson for Tav or Bassey for Barisic given how absolutely fucking horrible they have both been. 100% I get rotation a bit into the season or for lower tier games and cups but straight away? Easy to say in hindsight but McGregor might not have been beaten for the Dundee Utd goal and Helander was a stick-on to start last night after being great in 1st leg then Balogun is at fault for both goals, picked for a bit of pace. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,451 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, King Jela said: We would have won if Katic was playing imo Don’t start Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,451 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: Motherwell away? The game Goldson slipped for the first? Tav lost his marker at the corner for the third and the second goal Katic had his man marked. You just basing that solely on the result? Whats the second Hearts game? The 1-1? When Tav and Goldson fucked up for the goal? Spartak away - Goldson o.g? 4th deflected off Goldson. Again Katic at no fault for all 4 goals. Kilmarnock away nothing to do with first goal, Goldson caught ball watching for the second. Please prove how Katic cost a goal vs Kilmarnock, this should be fun.. Hilarious seeing you continue to blame Katic in games Goldson had howlers. Can I ask what goal Tavernier cost yesterday, or Barisic? Or you too daft to realise you can be pish with causing goals. The Motherwell game, all three were pish Hearts game, bullied by Uche all game, 2-1 game, again he like the rest were pish I’ll give you the Killie goal though, I remembered it completely wrong, and thought both he and Goldson had a shocker. Didn’t cover himself in glory with being nowhere near the header though. And yes, there are a fair few examples of Goldson having shockers as well, but he’s still so much better Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,841 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 I quite like Katic, but he is never going to be the important player for us that some people think he will. STEPPS BOY 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,703 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: Both are attacking full backs and were poor offensively, stupid to compare that to CBs. Tav also was woeful at the second. I'm not the one blaming someone for others having howlers. Katic was nowhere near as bad in those games as you're claiming bar St Johnstone and Hearts. Hes had some absolute stinkers but you overstate how many and to claim we couldn't win the league with him playing is ridiculous. I bet he didn't expect you to have such a good memory when listing all the games Katic was supposedly pish in 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,703 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, DBBTB said: I quite like Katic, but he is never going to be the important player for us that some people think he will. Would he be any worse than Goldson on current form or Balogun? Not for me. He could learn a lot playing alongside Helander, a fucking helluva lot more than playing alongside Goldson or Balogun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,703 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Rangers_no1 said: I only rememberd most because I've had the same discussion in the past with him. Its like Barisic vs Halliday again. 😅 Tbf Halliday was conceived in the Copland, he should always be first pick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuxembourgBlue 109 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 If he’s fit I’d start Katic with Helander and drop Goldson but that’s never going to happen because he’s Gerrard’s golden boy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,451 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 25 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: Both are attacking full backs and were poor offensively, stupid to compare that to CBs. Tav also was woeful at the second. I'm not the one blaming someone for others having howlers. Katic was nowhere near as bad in those games as you're claiming bar St Johnstone and Hearts. Hes had some absolute stinkers but you overstate how many and to claim we couldn't win the league with him playing is ridiculous. Still defenders and had poor games. I’m not blaming him for others having stinkers, he had stinkers, Goldson also had stickers. Makes a change from Goldson being blamed for Katic’s mistakes which was the norm on here. I don’t, and I was replying to some saying he had 5 or less bad games which was a load of shite. It’s not, he’s not good enough and we wouldn’t win it with him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,077 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 45 minutes ago, DBBTB said: I quite like Katic, but he is never going to be the important player for us that some people think he will. Of course he won't, he'll never get the chance because he'll misplace one pass and Gerrard will drop him, meanwhile goldson can try cruyff turns in his 18yard box, get robbed and cost us 3 points at home to hamilton and still swan into a starting place next game Rangers_no1 and real boydie9 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,077 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 21 minutes ago, King Jela said: Tbf Halliday was conceived in the Copeland, he should always be first pick. Conceived where? ForeverAndEver and NI 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,703 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Conceived where? Jesus fuck, I'm a dick. Ban-worthy IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,841 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 hour ago, King Jela said: Would he be any worse than Goldson on current form or Balogun? Not for me. He could learn a lot playing alongside Helander, a fucking helluva lot more than playing alongside Goldson or Balogun. He might not be, but Gerrard didn’t seem particular keen on him before COVID and since then Katic has suffered a serious knee injury and we have signed Balogun and Simpson so I seriously doubt he’s going to be able to win him over now. I’m not even convinced he’ll still even be a Rangers player this time next year tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,509 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 2 hours ago, DBBTB said: I quite like Katic, but he is never going to be the important player for us that some people think he will. He’s the new Matt Mackay in how he’s views by the support. And I like him too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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