Thermopylae 15,288 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 So with the dust settling on the 2 games do you think we got good value for money from Carlos's hand ball, or would it have been better if he had just let the ball go in? Obviously I'm not criticising him because he only had an instant to make up his mind, I just mean on reflection would it have been better if we had lost that goal but had him available for today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBlue 136 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Yes, but it's a bit pointless to discuss it now, isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquid111 51 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 So with the dust settling on the 2 games do you think we got good value for money from Carlos's hand ball, or would it have been better if he had just let the ball go in? Obviously I'm not criticising him because he only had an instant to make up his mind, I just mean on reflection would it have been better if we had lost that goal but had him available for today? Personally, I thought it was a bad decision at the time, and a bad decision now. It's still in our hands though, so I expect it to be academic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,288 Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 Well not at all, there will always be a next time and if we can't learn from history where can we learn from Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Pointless indeed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_RFC87 762 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 It's hard to predict Thermo But I feel we would be in a better position with him on the park for those extra... 120 minutes or so. But he gets a rest for today, which may do him good in the longer run... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohan 25 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 That's not really a fair question, at the time of the penalty save everyone would have been saying it was fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,288 Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 I think because we only had to get one point from the two games it was more important to have him today than risk loosing the first game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackthelad69 0 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 If Cuellar had been playing today, we probably would not have lost goals 2 and 3. So must have been a bad decision for him to handle the ball. Doesn't really matter though, now done and dusted. We will either have to make sure that we are not so successful in 4 competitions next year or get some better players for the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delparlane 5,765 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Moot point, and no blame on Carlos. Split second to decide, and he showed how much the team meant to him in trying to keep it out by any means available. Maybe it did hurt us, but so have other a few players with reckless and stupid challenges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briton 394 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Well not at all, there will always be a next time and if we can't learn from history where can we learn from With hindsight it would be better if he left it. Can't see how we can learn from it as surely those things are a spur of the moment reaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,288 Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 They have just said he's one more yellow away from another suspension ^_^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,288 Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 Well not at all, there will always be a next time and if we can't learn from history where can we learn from With hindsight it would be better if he left it. Can't see how we can learn from it as surely those things are a spur of the moment reaction? I agree it's a spur of the moment thing but if a player makes a point of thinking about the position beforehand that might just cross his mind at the crucial time. IMO Carlos is such an important player to us that the right decision was always to have him available for the second game, and so it would have been better to let the goal go in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,265 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 It was a natural reaction to try to prevent a goal and his absence probably did not make a great difference, the team that tried to win the game today was not us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootSpeedKillLight 0 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I think calling it a decision is misleading. It was a reflex action to stop a goal. After the penalty save it seemed like it was going to work for us, when they scored it didn't. Placing any blame on Cuellar seems a bit ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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