What Do The Bbc Think Rangers Lose From Their "boycott"?

[The Dude 20,026]

Thanks, was just wondering what they were.

BBC also have highlights rights but those are produced centrally and the BBC are given the tapes.

[The Dude 20,026]

True but we should raise a complaint through the SPFL as a member club. Even if it is only to rattle a cage.

At every opportunity. It might sound petty as fuck but it has far more chance of succes than online petitions etc.

[JWAC 2,234]

6 hours ago, The Dude said:

Its worse than that, they knew SoS was their guest that night but left it as a surprise hag was on too.
They're organised and well funded (by us, taxpayers) and they're operating way outside the definition of their charter.

The club should stick to this ban and let due process take its path.
Let them blank coverage of us.
Enough people will complain to the BBC trust and hopefully then BBC Scotland will be investigated

They haven't stopped covering us. I don't know how many times this needs to be said. They just aren't sending staff to pressers (video is available shortly afterwards anyway) and matches (they can report from a studio).

The last time this happened they stopped radio coverage of us, loudly making a point why they weren't there. It doesn't bother me as I go to games.

Pressers, fuck sake

[bridgeman 12]

9 hours ago, cumnockbear said:

Make the fucking ban permanent, i never want to see those Bastards report on us again. Don't let the fuckers broadcast our games either.

 

This ^^^^^^^ I agree with 100%

If they are boycotting Ibrox, they should not be allowed to report on and / or screen any matches / highlights of games at Ibrox.. Ever

Keep them away. get a court order to keep them at least 1 mile from our Stadium and Training Complex.

[montana100 335]

I'm happy with their no reporting stance, this way I don't have to listen to their made up stories.

 

Ban the banned.

[Moobs 9,162]

Fuck them. Service riddled with beedrattlers. Ban the cunts for good!

[Bears 792]

Thank you, BBC, for all your cooperation over the years. Please don't come back.

[The Dude 20,026]

6 hours ago, jim white's a bear said:

The last time this happened they stopped radio coverage of us, loudly making a point why they weren't there. It doesn't bother me as I go to games.

Pressers, fuck sake

They stopped providing commentary for that awful open all mics carry on they do.

[buster. 1,114]

From the club's POV it provides a vacum for our own media to fill.

 

[The Dude 20,026]

2 minutes ago, buster. said:

From the club's POV it provides a vacum for our own media to fill.

 

Why would it create a vacuum? The BBC havent stopped reporting on Rangers. They simply aren't sending staff to Auchenhowie or Ibrox to report from there. People really don't seem to grasp that they haven't stopped reporting on us.

[buster. 1,114]

5 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Why would it create a vacuum? The BBC havent stopped reporting on Rangers. They simply aren't sending staff to Auchenhowie or Ibrox to report from there. People really don't seem to grasp that they haven't stopped reporting on us.

Yes, but the 'quality' of that reporting will obviously suffer further from not sending staff to Ibrox or Auchenhowie and will become more irrelevant. You look at RTV, the official Utube site etc and that provides what BBC Scotland won't be getting.

[The Dude 20,026]

8 minutes ago, buster. said:

Yes, but the 'quality' of that reporting will obviously suffer further from not sending staff to Ibrox or Auchenhowie and will become more irrelevant. You look at RTV, the official Utube site etc and that provides what BBC Scotland won't be getting.

Why would the quality suffer because they aren't at Ibrox/MP? They'll use PA copy for match reports and from the presser. The only thing wouldn't really be providing is commentary during open all mics and that things an unlistenable shambles anyway.

[buster. 1,114]

5 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Why would the quality suffer because they aren't at Ibrox/MP? They'll use PA copy for match reports and from the presser. The only thing wouldn't really be providing is commentary during open all mics and that things an unlistenable shambles anyway.

They can use PA copy for the presser, we'll have a video of it.

[The Dude 20,026]

6 minutes ago, buster. said:

They can use PA copy for the presser, we'll have a video of it.

We've posted video of it for months, maybe years, so it's nothing new. They can also use the video to lift quotes etc

[buster. 1,114]

9 minutes ago, The Dude said:

We've posted video of it for months, maybe years, so it's nothing new. They can also use the video to lift quotes etc

Yes, but video beats quotes.

'Quotes only' means if fans find out about other direct, more complete and visual options are available then they'll no longer consider BBC when looking for this content.

 

Bottomline and purely regards content,....  BBC content on Rangers is now weaker.

If it wasn't why would they normally send 'journalists' to Ibrox and Auchenhowie.

[sjmcmeechan 28]

49 minutes ago, buster. said:

Yes, but the 'quality' of that reporting will obviously suffer further from not sending staff to Ibrox or Auchenhowie and will become more irrelevant. You look at RTV, the official Utube site etc and that provides what BBC Scotland won't be getting.

Is it possible for the 'quality' of the reporting to decline any further?

Surely that's the whole point

[The Dude 20,026]

5 minutes ago, buster. said:

Yes, but video beats quotes.

'Quotes only' means if fans find out about other direct, more complete and visual options are available then they'll no longer consider BBC when looking for this content.

 

Bottomline and purely regards content,....  BBC content on Rangers is now weaker.

If it wasn't why would they normally send 'journalists' to Ibrox and Auchenhowie.

Video might beat quotes but most won't sit through an entire press conference to see what was said otherwise everyone would just broadcast video of the full thing. If fans only wanted more "complete, visual options" then we'd all be RTV subscribers.

The journalists sent to Ibrox/Auchenhowie can still provide every bit of content they provided before the ban. The only thing we wont get now is live commentary cut-ins on Open all mics or someone giving a 30 second round up on Sportscene at 5 o'clock on a Saturday.

The ban on McLaughlin and the BBC "boycott" are a waste of time. BBC still report and can still add whatever twist they please to the story.

[Smile 26,610]

1 hour ago, The Dude said:

Why would it create a vacuum? The BBC havent stopped reporting on Rangers. They simply aren't sending staff to Auchenhowie or Ibrox to report from there. People really don't seem to grasp that they haven't stopped reporting on us.

BBC sources then insisted there would be no staff member going to Ibrox until the ban on Mr McLaughlin is lifted and they would rely on agency staff.

 

They are just going to rely on freelance staff so still they are sending someone picking up a pay cheque from the BBC, But not actually employed by the BBC.

 

 

 

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, Smile said:

BBC sources then insisted there would be no staff member going to Ibrox until the ban on Mr McLaughlin is lifted and they would rely on agency staff.

 

They are just going to rely on freelance staff so still they are sending someone picking up a pay cheque from the BBC, But not actually employed by the BBC.

 

 

 

As I said, the whole thing is a complete waste of time on both sides. It's nothing more than playing to the galleries.

[Smile 26,610]

1 minute ago, The Dude said:

As I said, the whole thing is a complete waste of time on both sides. It's nothing more than playing to the galleries.

This is true.

[Pure_Quality 3,295]

42 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Why would the quality suffer because they aren't at Ibrox/MP? They'll use PA copy for match reports and from the presser.

The quality may suffer because there'll be nobody to give their own opinion if they're not at the match.

Let's assume that the PA or whoever they take their generic content from give an opinion on a decision that happened during the game; wrongly. Normally there would be at least 3/4 BBC employees at Ibrox who would have seen this happening real time, and a discussion ensues a consensus could be reached on what really happened.

Alternatively the guy from the PA mistakenly hears Four Lads as the Famine Song and reports on that. Do the BBC A) not report it because they can't verify it or b) incorrectly put it in their match report?

If those people are not there to see those situations first hand it makes their ability to factually report on Rangers weaker, that's an irrefutable fact.

It's petty and small minded from BBC Scotland, but when it comes to reporting on Rangers that's just about par for the course.

 

[The Dude 20,026]

1 minute ago, Smile said:

This is true.

If we were serious about it we'd be raising it via the SPFL every time and also making regular complaints to the BBC Trust.

[buster. 1,114]

1 minute ago, The Dude said:

Video might beat quotes but most won't sit through an entire press conference to see what was said otherwise everyone would just broadcast video of the full thing. If fans only wanted more "complete, visual options" then we'd all be RTV subscribers.

The journalists sent to Ibrox/Auchenhowie can still provide every bit of content they provided before the ban. The only thing we wont get now is live commentary cut-ins on Open all mics or someone giving a 30 second round up on Sportscene at 5 o'clock on a Saturday.

The ban on McLaughlin and the BBC "boycott" are a waste of time. BBC still report and can still add whatever twist they please to the story.

I can see where you are coming from in that the current state of play won't make a huge difference but BBC Scotland could still add whatever twist they please to any story regardless of what action Rangers were to take.

 

I reckon the only way of possibly forcing any significant change would be to go to BBC hierarchy in Manchester/London with an evidence backed dossier of complaint against BBC Scotland.

 

 

 

 

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, Pure_Quality said:

The quality may suffer because there'll be nobody to give their own opinion if they're not at the match.

Let's assume that the PA or whoever they take their generic content from give an opinion on a decision that happened during the game; wrongly. Normally there would be at least 3/4 BBC employees at Ibrox who would have seen this happening real time, and a discussion ensues a consensus could be reached on what really happened.

Alternatively the guy from the PA mistakenly hears Four Lads as the Famine Song and reports on that. Do the BBC A) not report it because they can't verify it or b) incorrectly put it in their match report?

If those people are not there to see those situations first hand it makes their ability to factually report on Rangers weaker, that's an irrefutable fact.

It's petty and small minded from BBC Scotland, but when it comes to reporting on Rangers that's just about par for the course.

 

The guy from the PA could quite easily discuss it with his colleagues in the press gantry. It can be quite a busy place during game. Plenty other journos sat there. It would also likely be discussed in the press room post match, as many incidents are, as they file their copy.

The BBC will also have full video of the match, either live or on a slight delay, which could be used to corroborate an claims made.

I wasn't at MW's presser yesterday, does that impact my ability to accurately report what was said during it?

[Smile 26,610]

4 minutes ago, The Dude said:

If we were serious about it we'd be raising it via the SPFL every time and also making regular complaints to the BBC Trust.

True it's just another  daft  charade we seem to go through.