teckers1994 1 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Just watching Chelsea uefa youth league and it got me thinking is there a market for us to tap into here there's some good players in that team but let's face it at Chelsea the chances of the majority of these players ever making it to the first team are miniscule so what do you think should we be looking into English premiership reserve teams for possible targets ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr RFC 696 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Young talented players at big clubs will not see Scottish football as a good move. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teckers1994 1 Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 I'm not so sure there's plenty of players down there that like vuckic have been frozen out that could do us a turn I think it's a wise place to look and a better market than the Scottish leagues Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr RFC 696 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 It depends if you're talking about players outwith the top 5 or 6 clubs then maybe but even at that i think short term loan deals is the only realistic chance of getting them. These players want to play in the EPL even if we think they are unlikely to make it. As for HV i don't think he would opt for Rangers if an EPL club came in for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Gallant Pioneer 555 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Young talented players at big clubs will not see Scottish football as a good move.Weiss, Forster, Denayer, Guidetti, Bartley etc etc etc says they will, and do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teckers1994 1 Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 Maybe so but still it's worth a try if you don't ask you don't get there are players there for us I believe Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr RFC 696 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Weiss, Forster, Denayer, Guidetti, Bartley etc etc etc says they will, and do. How many of them were permanent deals? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
murzo 7,446 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 How many of them were permanent deals?Nearly some of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Gallant Pioneer 555 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 How many of them were permanent deals?All 5 were a possibility. Ally knocked back Weiss. Bartley was still here when we went into administration. Celtic signed Forster, are in talks with Guidetti and are trying to keep Denayer. As teckers said, if you don't ask, you don't get. No harm in asking for a loan of the best kids from down there, the old firm is an outstanding shop window and as others have proven these guys may fall in the love with the place and want to stay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr RFC 696 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 So one then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
murzo 7,446 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 It depends if you're talking about players outwith the top 5 or 6 clubs then maybe but even at that i think short term loan deals is the only realistic chance of getting them. These players want to play in the EPL even if we think they are unlikely to make it. As for HV i don't think he would opt for Rangers if an EPL club came in for him.Where would you suggest? Scandinavia , eastern europe. There are plenty of quality young players out there that would come to us but what are the chances we have the right structure in place to find them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr RFC 696 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Where would you suggest? Scandinavia , eastern europe. There are plenty of quality young players out there that would come to us but what are the chances we have the right structure in place to find them.I think that's probably more realistic. Getting players from Europe who would see Scotland as a stepping stone to the EPL.The only English based players i see coming to Scotland are journeyman and failed academy players. Not that they wouldn't do a job for us.I think you're right though it's gonna take a lot of work to get a scouting system set up to go down that route. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,159 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Definitely a market we should be looking at the EPL reserve league shits all over the SPFL in terms of quality and there's definitely players to be had there even if it's only a loan initially Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
murzo 7,446 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Definitely a market we should be looking at the EPL reserve league shits all over the SPFL in terms of quality and there's definitely players to be had there even if it's only a loan initiallyAnd if they do well at us the team take him back or sell him for £millions and we get zip. We need to develop our own players not loan players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,159 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 And if they do well at us the team take him back or sell him for £millions and we get zip. We need to develop our own players not loan players.I doubt it doing well in the dugshit Scottish premier is hardly an indication that he's gonna be a premiership star or sold for millions,also players nearing the end of their contract who clearly have no future at the likes of Man City,Chelsea etc would be a massive step up from nearly everyone in Scotland we could sign imo,although our own youth development shouldn't be hampered as a result I agree on that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wully 47,343 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Our good pals Chelsea will loan us Patrick Bamford next season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teckers1994 1 Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 I don't think it would affect our own youths chances if anything it could help them in the long run as they would realise where not looking to buy money grabbers on the wrong side of 30 we should be trying to develop a younger fast paced football playing attacking team Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,159 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Our good pals Chelsea will loan us Patrick Bamford next season.nah we're getting Kurt Zouma to shore up the defence I heard Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Our good pals Chelsea will loan us Patrick Bamford next season.Don't be silly! It was only AVB and Ally who were pals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Ryan McGowan and Vuckic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orange&blue92 1,284 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Grahame Shinnie Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,159 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Grahame Shinniesigned pre contract with the sheep Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,718 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 The boy on loan at Middlesbrough from Chelsea is a player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gersandy 594 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Just watching Chelsea uefa youth league and it got me thinking is there a market for us to tap into here there's some good players in that team but let's face it at Chelsea the chances of the majority of these players ever making it to the first team are miniscule so what do you think should we be looking into English premiership reserve teams for possible targets ?Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, etc, all send reserves to the bundesliga or dutch league. The chances of us getting any decent prospects up here are low, unless we ever end up in the champions league again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,782 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 We have a massive task ahead of us this Summer.There are about ten player in the entire squad who I think could play a role next season (even then most of them would have reduced roles to what they have had over the past couple of years) which leaves us needing at least 15-16 players - first team players, quality players who can be difference makers and a couple of squad players who can fill in when required.It's going to be a busy Summer for whoever is in charge of us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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