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    Rangers fans in the early 80s

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

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    11 hours ago, MacBoyd said:

    One for the older bears maybe. Why was attendance so poor? I know we were shite, but look at the last decade and obviously we had bad years before the 80s. Was football in general attended less then? Just watched some old footage, Ibrox so empty looks bizzare.

    I remember being at a st Johnston game at Ibrox, mid week, and the attendance was about 11,000 .. and then we signed Souness   And everything changed. But the football before that was dire, we had lost our way. 

    Playing in front of crowds

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

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    7 hours ago, GOAT said:

    Are we ready to accept our team that won all 18 of their 18 league games at ibrox last season actually shit the bed when there’s 50,000 people at ibrox now?

    I’ve actually kept my mouth shut for weeks about this, but not anymore, our team can’t handle playing in front of the ibrox crowd at times, you seen it at 2-0 they absolutely shat themselves for five minutes and were lucky it wasn’t 3-0 if it wasn’t for a poor finish by one of they cunts. 
     

    That’ll be the same team that at 2-0 down, at home, fought back to 2-2 - that’ll be the same team - what fucking utter nonsense! 

    Imagine some Rangers supporters saying you are not a Rangers supporter because of a Political belief ?

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

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    6 hours ago, They Gnu said:

    If you keep the pound interest rates and fiscal policy will be dictated by Westminster, Scotland is miles away from meeting the criteria for joining the EU but if the Frogs and the Krauts allow you to join and use the €, just to get it up the U.K., interest rates ect will be dictated by Germany. Unlike yourself I’m not an expert however it doesn’t seem very independent to me.

    still ABE eh.

    It’s a kinda mute argument we don’t actually have to be associated with any currency. 

    Imagine some Rangers supporters saying you are not a Rangers supporter because of a Political belief ?

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

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    14 hours ago, Ayrshire Blue said:

    But prescriptions are not actually FREE - do you think big pharmaceutical companies give it to Scotland for FREE. It has to be paid for, by revenue generated, meaning that money is cut from elsewhere, like drug rehab, etc leading to higher drug deaths.

    ‘Free’ Uni places have been absolutely slashed to allow fee paying students access to Unis - and again, it was never actually FREE, it was paid for.

    You've really swallowed the Snat book of absolute pish & drivel if you believe it’s all FREE

    Jesus wept - so anything that’s done by any government is paid for - is that really the argument your going for - in that case no governments done nothing for anybody as we all did it for ourself! Stunning! 

    Imagine some Rangers supporters saying you are not a Rangers supporter because of a Political belief ?

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

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    13 minutes ago, They Gnu said:

    If Scotland is allowed to keep the pound how independent would it be if it’s monetary policy was decided by Westminster and the BoE?

    If ? Would it want to ? And if it did there would be a negotiation to be had ? We could have a Scottish pound ? After all that’s not unheard of ! And a bank of scotland - there’s a novel concept ! Perhaps we join the euro, or adopt the Swedish kroner! 

    Imagine some Rangers supporters saying you are not a Rangers supporter because of a Political belief ?

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

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    3 hours ago, TamCoopz said:

    He responds to the stuff he says isn’t worthy of responding to and ignores posts like this 

    You do realise I answered that post - in fact the poster had to make a wee donation to Erskine based on my answers ( mind you that might have been another thread making the same accusation as it’s often like Groundhog Day in here. ) 

    Imagine some Rangers supporters saying you are not a Rangers supporter because of a Political belief ?

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

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    6 hours ago, TamCoopz said:

    You’ve ignored other posters when they’ve given you decent debate, could go back through the thread and get them for you if you’ve just missed them 

    Sure why don’t you do that - and in the interests of parity count all the posts with no debate, just the ‘snp bad’ rhetoric, or the ‘never a Rangers fan’ shite - just for comparison - do it fairly and I’ll answer every single debate point with my opinion 

    Imagine some Rangers supporters saying you are not a Rangers supporter because of a Political belief ?

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

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    6 hours ago, KeyserSoze said:

    Tell me the chains around our Education system?

    Tell me the chains around our Health system?

    are they not HUGE decisions for us to make?

    Here’s a breakdown of devolved taxes (FYI)

    We have responsibilities in relation to the following taxes: 

    Income tax - some aspects of which are the responsibility of the Scottish Parliament, others the UK Parliament, and which is administered by HMRC (10p either way)

    Land and Buildings Transaction Tax- set by the Scottish Parliament and administered by Revenue Scotland

    Landfill Tax - set by the Scottish Parliament and administered by Revenue Scotland

    Council Tax - set, administered and spent by local authorities

    Non-domestic rates - local tax set by the Scottish Parliament which is administered and collected by local authorities, and they retain all of the Non-Domestic Rates Revenue raised locally 

    I’m certainly not against independence as you seem to think. I do however take things more seriously than as you suggested “being excited by change”. 

    I note you conveniently missed out NI - the tax the uk government utilised to raise additional finance, the vat levels and even on income tax we can’t set the personal allowances. 
    Scotland are not allowed to borrow money ( a uk gov fiscal measure) - we have to balance the books, every year, unlike the rUk. 
    the chains around health service and education are budgets as we can’t borrow for infrastructure, as we are not allowed to, and by the infamous Barnett formulae we don’t even get allocated a budget based on what is raised because monies are kept for things like armed forces ( no issue there ) HS2, channel tunnel, third runway at Heathrow, cross city link etc. 
     

    and it’s not just a financial question either - strategy is determined not by the people of scotland but by the ruk - we can’t diverge there as we have no powers to do so. 

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