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He is ginger, I'll give you that. dont you think he looks too much like higgins,hehe, as i said speaks sense and thinks how 95% of bears think,(well you do get that minority that think they know better)and sticks by what he says,i cant see how anyone can argue with that. And yet some will because of who he represents. Sad.

He is ginger, I'll give you that.

Your true colours are really starting to emerge. I'm saying you can't be impartial when your funding comes from the Club. I brought up that very subject at a recent fans forum held by the Assembly. I did not say at any time that any member of the Assembly was not to be trusted, stop trying to put words into my mouth. My boss actually works for a local authority. If you are talking about the RST, I have no boss but I see where you are going. I don't believe than any fans organisation should be taking perks from the Club. As RST Treasurer, I know that individuals concerned have made donations to charity when this has happened in the past. It seems that you are trying to discredit a Board nember. Were you banned from FF and are bitter about it? I ain't trying to discredit anyone, unlike your attack on the assembly (that rather bizzarely you are part of) i am merely pointing out a possible contradiction in the rst's stance on this hospitality that rankles you so. Dress it up any way you want but you are questioning there impartiality. So you are saying you have accepted hospitality from the club, what's the difference (charity donation or not) in RST guys accepting it and assembly guys accepting it ? Why do you keep ignoring me concerning Gerry Duffy, you do realise it's making you look a bit daft. Are the RST giving interviews to Gerry Duffy, a yes or no will suffice, surely it can't be a secret it was in the sun today FFS............. I haven't attacked the Assembly. I am questioning their impartiality when various things are funded by the Club. I haven't personally accepted hospitality from the Club. I was offered it 2 weeks ago and declined because I was working in the RST shop in the WRC that day. The difference is that the RST guys have paid for what they got, albeit to charity. Can the others say the same? As for Gerry Duffy, believe what you like but he supports Rangers.

Still the quest for a seat on the board goes on I see, why? You have supporter representation, it's called voting with your feet. Amass a membership large enough to follow your campaign then act on it. Simples. Are you suggesting we stop following the team? Not at all, what I am saying is the RST is now unviable for any board seat when it can't amass a membership enough to be interested in what it has to say anymore. To prove me wrong, quote your most recent membership figure, you are the Treasurer you should have that at hand. We are an organisation that primarily wants the Club to be owned by the fans and helps facilitate this by increasing share ownership amongst the wider support our via membership and our Gersave scheme. I'd be the first to concede that the vast majority of our fans don't really care who owns Rangers as long as we are successful on the pitch. However, we believe that any fan elected to the Board should represent the people who regularly invest in the club ie season ticket holders and shareholders, on a one man (or woman) one vote process. The club disagree and that is the sticking point. Over the last few years we have taken on the mantle of defending the Club and the support in the media because nobody at the Club is willing to do so. As for our membership numbers, we have changed policy on this. Under the previous regime, we used to count everyone who had ever joined the Trust in our membership figures. Now we start at zero on 6th April every year and people are still joining and renewing so I don't have a figure to hand. We do have about 400 lifetime members plus those who join on a year to year basis.

Still the quest for a seat on the board goes on I see, why? You have supporter representation, it's called voting with your feet. Amass a membership large enough to follow your campaign then act on it. Simples. Are you suggesting we stop following the team?

Your true colours are really starting to emerge. I'm saying you can't be impartial when your funding comes from the Club. I brought up that very subject at a recent fans forum held by the Assembly. I did not say at any time that any member of the Assembly was not to be trusted, stop trying to put words into my mouth. My boss actually works for a local authority. If you are talking about the RST, I have no boss but I see where you are going. I don't believe than any fans organisation should be taking perks from the Club. As RST Treasurer, I know that individuals concerned have made donations to charity when this has happened in the past. It seems that you are trying to discredit a Board nember. Were you banned from FF and are bitter about it?

Maybe we could have had 9IAR and not been a laughing stock in Europe for most of these years.

It's funny that he still met with us several times after that and said that supporter representation was still on the table. Strange. As for the Assembly, as soon as they become self-financing and stop taking funding, tickets and hospitality from the Club they might become credible with the wider support. Wider support or you and your ever diminishing band in the rst ? When will you regain your credability after calling our chairman an asset stripper and laughing at the clubs misfortune with a serial rangers hater like ewan cameron ? I presume gerry duffy lifted those quotes and didn't interview stephen smith ? The representation is still on the table but we all know it will be throught he assembly, not a chance it will be any other way. Maybe if you stopped taking petty public swipes at the assembly they would let you get more involved. I'm not taking petty swipes. We are part of the Assembly as I'm sure you know. I have a major problem with the funding the Assembly gets from the Club (and ultimately from us as a support) and the way it is used. Many on the Assembly committee are RST members. The RST is the only organisation that has campaigned for supporters representation but why should it come from the Assembly. Shouldn't season ticket holders and shareholders have a say? This is pretty much what we said to the Club but maybe they couldn't then control what happened rather than go for a democratic vote.

Who knows? Why would we assume that in his absence we would have been run by somebody without 'drive and determination'? The thing is, people actually believe that people like Gazza and Laudrup were funded by SDM's own pocket whereas they were funded by the Rangers support pumping money into season tickets, merchandise etc. I would credit him for persuading these players to come to Rangers but he did not personally fund them.

It's funny that he still met with us several times after that and said that supporter representation was still on the table. Strange. As for the Assembly, as soon as they become self-financing and stop taking funding, tickets and hospitality from the Club they might become credible with the wider support.

Oh dear.

GCL has still to come on.

Good input

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/8223470.stm

Suggestions for improvement have been made on numerous occasions. They don't listen and think they know best. You think we kicked the club when they were down - those running the club have been doing that to the supporters for years. If you think announcing to the world that we are skint and that vitrually anyone was for sale was in the Club's best interest then fine. Luckily the team got it's act together and Celtic imploded or who knows what we would be facing now. I don't know the numbers opting for the three year season ticket deal. Let's hope that it wasn't significant because if we can't buy a player with this additional income plus the CL money, what will it be like in the next few years? I'm delighted we're champions and this was never about not supporting the team but you need to look at the bigger picture. I want the Club still to be around for my grandchildren to support. Typical of the hyperbole I have come to expect, where exactly is the club going, why wouldn’t we still be around ? As for me needing to look at the bigger picture, what a laugh that is. If ever a group of people need to look at the bigger picture it's the current incumbents of the RST.You marginalised yourself from large section of the support with this poorly thought out rant disguised as a campaign and now re-released it by removing a sentence...is that meant to be a joke ? Why are you accusing a manager of no long term transfer strategy/ building a team when we have the youngest squad we have had in years and the core of this has been kept together during the summer ? Do you want to borrow my red pen ? So you don't want then club to tell the truth concerning our financial situation? I would rather they did to be honest. Sir David and the manager have repeatedly said they will trim the squad to an agreed number, which they have done I don't ever remember them saying everyone was for sale (they may have said everyone has there price but that is true of every football club in the world) . You can borrow that red pen again if you want. I would also hold your predictions concerning transfers until the window shuts, surely that would be wise ? P.S. take up on the three year season ticket will be very poor. Keep your red pen where it is. And the statement hasn't been re-released, I copied and pasted it to show that most parts are still relevant. You can wait until the tranfer window closes all you like. The Club has told the supporters groups that no-one will be coming in, even if Celtic get knocked out the CL tonight. They did not make the same commitment about players being sold.

blythe is a lawyer,templeton fell on his sword,because he was fed lies. blythe agreed with the majority of edgars,17 points..he is a mouthpiece,templeton gave up for a reason. the reason was shameful lies. but the trust should respect the views of the assembly..but on balance,the trust have the balance..we do deserve better. I am sure Edgar wants the best for the club from his point of view and i know Ross Blyth only wants the best for the club. It just shows Numansnewman that you have never met Ross or actually spoke to people that know him. If you can think that someone that devotes a hell of alot of time to Rangers and trying to make things better does not have Rangers interests at heart and only a mouthpiece then you know even less about rangers than i thought. Ross hasnt missed a single game in about 17 years be it league, cup, european or friendlies where as you came on here asking why hemdani wasnt starting. Why do you have to support one or the other can we just not support rangers.? He must have been a baby when he started going. I was surprised at how young Ross was when I met him. You are right though, both guys are committed Rangers fans doing the best they can.

Suggestions for improvement have been made on numerous occasions. They don't listen and think they know best. You think we kicked the club when they were down - those running the club have been doing that to the supporters for years. If you think announcing to the world that we are skint and that vitrually anyone was for sale was in the Club's best interest then fine. Luckily the team got it's act together and Celtic imploded or who knows what we would be facing now. I don't know the numbers opting for the three year season ticket deal. Let's hope that it wasn't significant because if we can't buy a player with this additional income plus the CL money, what will it be like in the next few years? I'm delighted we're champions and this was never about not supporting the team but you need to look at the bigger picture. I want the Club still to be around for my grandchildren to support.

Okay. I've changed a couple of things and taken out the bit about low morale. At the time this was issued we were 7 points behind Celtic, staring at 4IAR and wanting to sell our top scorer. If you disagree with the points then, of course you are free to do so. We Deserve Better The Rangers Support have shown our loyalty time and time again, culminating in a world record 200,000 supporters travelling to Manchester for the UEFA Cup Final in May 2008. This is an achievement no other club in the world could match. Our loyal supporters have, however, grown increasingly frustrated at the direction the club has taken in the last decade, with a pattern of events showing that the Board of Rangers FC have failed the support consistently. Areas of concern include; •Reduction in the status of our club from leading football force in the land, to almost 'social pariah' status through a failure to challenge those seeking to link Rangers with sectarianism •Failure to profit from our most lucrative ever season •No discernible strategic vision, either on or off the pitch •No long-term transfer or team-building plan •Failure to engage with or interact with the support in any meaningful way •Treating Rangers fans with disdain as 'customers' instead of valuing and working with them as 'supporters' and part of the Rangers family •Inability to either attract inward investment, or to convince fans to invest in any meaningful way •Selling first team players to cover losses previously made on fringe players •Consistent failure to move fringe players on for reasonable transfer fees •Lucrative pay-offs for failed players •Only 3 league titles in 9 seasons •Only 3 cups won in last 3 full seasons •Losing to the worst European opponents faced since Valletta in 1983 •Only two youth players (McGregor and Hutton) of genuine quality produced in the last decade •A PR operation which only acts when senior club figures are personally criticised and all too often fails to defend the Rangers support •A 'state of the art' training facility, yet no advancements in technique or set plays We deserve better. We have always been the club who set the standards for others to follow. It was Rangers who led the way in stadium redevelopment; it was Rangers who dragged Scottish football forward by signing big name English and European players. Other teams trailed in our wake. There is so much to be grateful for that we are Rangers fans. Right now, however, our current regime is not even aspiring to the standards set by their predecessors. We deserve better. We now issue a public challenge to the Board of the Club to take steps which will improve our situation immediately, to state what they plan to do and to work with the support. Rangers fans do understand that the current situation will take time and a workable strategy to escape from but the club must make the major changes necessary, rather than conduct transfer window fire-sales and lurch from crisis to crisis with no discernible game plan. We deserve better. We call on all fans groups and supporters to unite let the Club Board know how we feel. While we will continue to back the team 100%, as is the way of Rangers fans, the people at the top of the club must realise that we will no longer accept the avoidable situation we currently find ourselves in. We deserve better. It's time for the Club Board to recognise this and strive to achieve it.

Yes....... Sorry, you must have spent a good few hours on that one. It's going fine, just needs a bit of updating. Thank you for asking.

Don't you just hate it when you spend a lot of time on a response and the person asking the question then ignores it?

My main concern about Ally is that he hasn't had the opportunity to prove himself as a manager, being able to spot a player whilst working under financial constraints. I'd be so upset if it didn't work out and the fans turned on him as they inevitably would. Difficult one.

It depends on what you call a 'major' achievement. In terms of the Trust we have; Created thousands of new shareholders in the Club. Raised (via our members) over £100,000 new investment in Club shares. Not been afraid to criticise those running the Club when we think they have under-performed (WDB) Defended the Club and fans on numerous occasions. Some examples are below. POSITION STATEMENT ON ‘THE FAMINE SONG’, ACCUSATIONS OF ‘RACISM’ AND DR. JOHN REID’S SEPTEMBER 2008 LETTER TO THE CELTIC SUPPORT BACKGROUND The Board of the Rangers Supporters’ Trust believes that Celtic Chairman John Reid’s letter to his club’s supporters in September 2008 referring to a four-line chant sung by Rangers fans (colloquially known as ‘The Famine Song’) deserves a full and public response. We view Dr Reid’s letter as the latest salvo in a campaign largely based on misinformation and driven by a sectarian political agenda. Ideally a response to this nonsense would come from the Chairman of Rangers Football Club, but in the absence of this the Rangers Supporters’ Trust has no hesitation in absolutely rejecting accusations of ‘racism’ made by Reid and other prominent Celtic apologists. RACISM Most impartial observers understand that racism is what was aimed at England player Emile Heskey in Zagreb on 10 September. Or closer to home, the shameful racist abuse aimed at Mark Walters at Celtic Park on 2 January 1988. ‘Racism’ is not a wind-up, however distasteful, aimed at Scottish Celtic fans and in rejecting these specious accusations the Trust restates our opposition to racism and sectarianism, which stands comparison to any other similar body: •The RST sponsors the Walter Tull Trophy, named in honour of the 1st black commissioned officer in the British Army and contested by Rangers and Spurs •The Trust has close links with the local Asian Community and sponsors a number of season tickets which give local kids the chance to attend and support Rangers •The Trust organised and hosted the 2007 ‘Gers Pride’ Conference at Ibrox, involving high-profile speakers from Northern Ireland, Germany, academics and MPs in debate around positive aspects of identity and support •The Trust was closely involved in the successful ‘self-policing’ initiative and has consistently sought to engage Rangers in meaningful dialogue with the Rangers support about culture, identity, behaviour and tradition •The sole external link on the RST website front page is for ‘Show Racism The Red Card Scotland’. SCOTS-IRISH COMMUNITY ISSUES Dr Reid is entirely wrong in stating that ‘The Famine Song’ is “directed against the community of Irish descent in Scotland”, if for no other reason than many of those Rangers fans who sing this song are themselves of Irish descent. That such an obviously fallacious statement is unchallenged exposes the sheer poverty of public debate on this issue. The Trust asserts that Dr Reid has no right to appoint himself as a spokesperson on behalf of Scots of Irish descent, or to speak for anyone except himself or the Football Club he works for. Dr Reid’s statement; “the Famine is non-sectarian and millions of people who died or were forced into mass emigration were from all faiths and traditions within Ireland” also contradicts his own assertion that the Famine Song is ‘racist’. If a song refers to a ‘non-sectarian’ event which affected ‘all faiths and traditions’, how can it possibly be racist – or sectarian, for that matter? The historical reality is that Scotland received relatively few immigrants from Ireland as a result of the Famine, the vast majority havingarrived before or long after.[1] Notwithstanding, Celtic FC choose to play two songs over the stadium PA on home match days referring to the Famine: ‘The Fields of Athenry’ and ‘Let the People Sing’. The reasons for this are puzzling, but Dr Reid’s inflated rhetoric condemns a song which, far from being some sick ‘celebration’ of human tragedy is actually a mocking response to Celtic fans' tenuous, borderline obsessive, affiliations with the Republic of Ireland. As we demonstrate below, this is based predominantly on support for violent Irish Republicanism, the crudest anti-British rhetoric and a mentality rooted firmly in victimhood, regardless of the evidence. We believe such a position is no basis for making objective assessments about racism. TACKLING SUBSTANTIVE ISSUES 1) CELTIC FC The Trust believes that Dr Reid’s efforts would be better spent putting his own house in order. We note with great interest his statement that he will “condemn, without equivocation, the use of any chants or songs which can be interpreted as support for religious or ethnic hatred, or for acts of violence.” The Trust fully supports Dr Reid in this laudable aim and believes it would be helpful to detail the following. Large sections of the Celtic support regularly indulge in vile chants celebrating the deaths of Rangers players such as Davie Cooper; laud the IRA’s sectarian murder gang with songs such as ‘Boys Of The Old Brigade’, ‘Roll Of Honour’ and ‘Sean South of Garryowen’; have Celtic Supporters Clubs named after IRA members such as Tom Williams; sing sectarian abuse at Rangers fans, employees and players, using phrases such as 'orange b*stards', 'h***' and 'animals'; celebrated the death of 66 innocent people in January 1971; sing “soon they’ll be no Protestants at all” in their version of ‘On The One Road’; sing “and when the music stops, F*ck King Billy and John Knox” and “Oh it’s great to be a Roman Catholic” in their version of ‘Roamin’ In The Gloamin’; abuse members of the Royal Family; and sing that they hope a Roman Catholic Rangers player, Nacho Novo, is murdered in his bed by the IRA. These are not the actions of an inclusive organisation ‘open to all’. This behaviour would, in any normal society, be worthy of at least the same level of political comment and sustained media scrutiny as the song at issue. Despite the best efforts of Messrs. Reid, Lawwell and their cheerleaders, these are far from the actions of a small minority and the Rangers support wishes Dr Reid every success in taking the “stringent action” needed to tackle this abhorrent behaviour. 2) RANGERS FC We believe that if the Club had treated the original complaints about ‘The Famine Song’ with the contempt they deserved, emanating as they did from the lunatic fringe of the Celtic support, ridiculous charges of ‘racism’ would have evaporated. Dr Reid’s letter is not in our view about tackling problems of racism and sectarianism. It is a thinly-veiled attempt, supported by the usual suspects, to beat Rangers FC and Rangers fans with a convenient stick. Nor have Strathclyde Police or the Procurator Fiscal given any cogent reasons why this chant breaches legislation. The Trust takes this opportunity to make a public appeal to both the Chairman and the Chief Executive of Rangers FC. It is regrettable that a week after the Chief Executive issued an eloquent written plea for supporters to stop singing ‘The Famine Song’ at the home tie against Motherwell, the away support sang the song loudly and frequently at Easter Road. Our view is that this is yet more evidence of the absence of meaningful relationships between the Club’s senior leadership and the wider support, and the Trust repeats the offer it has made many times in private, to help build and develop such a relationship, essential if Club and support are to move forward together. We firmly believe for all those who love Rangers that self-regulation, an engagement based on shared values, around an inclusive common identity celebrating the best of our traditions and built on mutual respect, represents the only viable way forward. The sooner we start to identify that common ground and move together, the better for all parts of the Rangers family. (1) Brenda Collins in 'Irish Immigrants And Scottish Society' states that between the 1851 and 1871 census years, the number of Irish-born Scots remained virtually static at around 207,000. In the period 1876 to 1921, she states that some 94,000 Irish immigrants came to Scotland, with a considerable number from Ulster. In Graham Walker's book, 'Intimate Strangers', the 1931 Scottish census showed that the total number of Irish-born was then 124,296, 2.5% of the total population, with 55% of these born in what was now Northern Ireland. Immigration to Scotland during and following the First World War was heavily from the Republic. Trust advice to members attending Celtic Park - 31st August 2008 Over at least the last five years, many dozens of Trust members have expressed concerns about aspects of both policing and stewarding at Celtic Park These concerns include: being threatened with arrest or ejection from the stadium for spurious, trivial or unexplained reasons; flags, banners and clothing with no offensive or sectarian connotations confiscated or not allowed into the Stadium; a gratuitously hostile, unfriendly attitude displayed by a handful of police officers and, more worryingly, a large number of stewards; intimidation and threats of arrest or ejection for singing ‘sectarian’ songs, despite said songs having no sectarian content or connotations. These concerns have been aggravated by the obvious double standards on display, where the home support is seemingly at liberty to throw missiles at players and club employees, sing sectarian bile about ‘Orange b*stards’ and ‘H*ns’ and display offensive and sectarian banners and flags. In advance of the game on Sunday, the Board of the Rangers Supporters’ Trust offers the following advice to our members: 1.Let’s conduct ourselves as we usually do, in a manner which accurately reflects the best traditions of our support and our Club and our pride in them. 2.The Club, the RST and other supporters’ groups are united in opposing racism, prejudice and sectarianism and have recognised the huge strides made by the Rangers support in recent seasons. Regardless of the inevitable provocation, do not hand our enemies any excuses for their behaviour or a propaganda gift by inappropriate singing or chanting. 3.Report any instances of provocative or inappropriate behaviour from opposition supporters to the police. Be polite, sensible and ask what, if any action is being taken. 4.If approached by stewards or police officers be calm, polite and avoid unnecessary confrontation. If asked to do something you believe unreasonable, ask precisely why or under what law or ground regulation this is being requested, and if necessary take note of names, police badge numbers and any witnesses in the vicinity. 5.If necessary use camera phones to record incidents of concern. If you or your fellow supporters are threatened, bullied, harassed or arrested unreasonably, ensure that you have witnesses to hand and note the location and time of any such incidents. The Trust Board will be meeting this week, in advance of the RST AGM next Saturday, and will review the conduct and outcome of Sunday’s game. We have had informal discussions with the Club on this and have also previously raised the issues with Strathclyde Police. We remain concerned at the lack of clarity in the responses from the Constabulary and the refusal of a high profile public service to either engage with or explain themselves to the public they profess to serve. The Trust AGM provides a perfect opportunity for the issue of conduct and treatment at Celtic Park to be debated and for Trust members to decide collectively how we take this forward. Stephen Smith RST Chair, on behalf of the Trust Board Trust secures an apology for the use of the word "h**" From it's inception, the RST has prided itself on taking a zero tolerance approach to sectarian language used to describe the the Rangers support. We have a particular problem with the word ‘h**’, a grossly offensive sectarian shorthand for ‘Protestant’ in common usage amongst Celtic fans and subsequently others. The organisation Nil By Mouth state on their website that “Sectarian language is commonly used in Scotland, with abusive terms such as "h**" and "Orange b*stard" being used against Protestants". Last week a member of the Dublin Loyal RSC contacted the RST, drawing an interview in an Irish magazine to the Trust’s attention. In ‘TV Now’, a Celtic supporting television presenter Martin King referred to ex-player and celebrity chef Gordon Ramsey as a ‘h**’. To quote our member: "I had a quick chat with one of the staff in TVNOW and she was curious about the term "h**" and I told her that a lot of Celtic supporters (here at least) mistake it as slang for nazi and use it against Rangers supporters. Given many Rangers supporters' family history of service in the British army (including three generations in my own) this is not only inaccurate but grossly offensive, as many paid the ultimate sacrifice to fight fascism while Irish nationalists openly supported Germany. I think she got the point." The Trust intervened on request and two telephone calls and an email exchange later, both the 'TV Now' magazine’s Editor Deborah McGee and Martin King phoned the Trust Chairman, Stephen Smith, to apologise in person. Both were genuinely contrite and keen to assure the RST and the people who raised the complain that no offence was intended. Mr King himself wrote the apology for using the term and this appeared in the magazine on 17 February. Not only do Ms McGee and Mr King deserve credit for what they did, but by their swift restorative actions they expose the shameful shortcomings of the media and football authorities in Scotland. The Trust wishes to make it clear that the role assigned to the Rangers support - a convenient whipping boy whenever the sectarian card is played - is not and will never be acceptable to us. We restate our committment to opposing all forms of prejudice and sectarianism and our belief that this will only be possible when these problems are addressed comprehensively and in a way which does not seek to dishonestly blame one set of football fans for a complex and deep-rooted social ill. Trust writes to MSP about Hokey-Cokey fiasco and refutes latest lies by Graham Speirs Following recent newspaper articles about the singing of 'The Hokey Cokey',specifically those making ridiculous statements about undefined anti-Roman Catholic sentiment and then bizarrely implying that the Rangers support were involved in some fiendish plot to sing this song on December 27th.The Trust has written to the MSP respsonsible, Michael Matheson. Rather than investigate this before commenting or dismissing the story as the nonsense it is, Mr Matheson apparently decided self-publicity was more important than the facts. We believe that his intervention has been extremely ill-informed, unhelpful and simply aggravates the existing position. The text of our letter to Mr Matheson is attached below. This fiasco comes less than a week after Scottish football's least credible writer, Graham Spiers, lied that the Trust had refused to debate with him on a BBC Radio 4 programme about 'The Old Firm' scheduled to air on Boxing Day evening. This is completely untrue and in any case would be akin to us being afraid of a marshmallow or a kitten. The sum total of what Mr Spiers knows about football would hardly fill a 'Post-It' note, so we are happy to correct this nonsense and dismiss it as the childish fantasy of a simpering inadequate. Finally, can we wish all of our members and the wider Rangers support the very best for the Festive Season and for 2009. Yours in Rangers, The Board of the RST In addition to the above we were heavily involved in the Sam English Committee which celebrated the 100th anniversary of his birth and commissioned the magnificent silver bowl that Kris Boyd received as top scorer and will be awarded every year to the club's top scorer. We have held events to support the RSEA which has raised over £60K for Erskine. We are giving 4 season tickets to either our members or worthy causes every home game. We run the second biggest Rangers Lotto agency bringing in hundreds of pounds each week for youth development. There is much more but I don't want to go on too much.

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I'm sure you know that the Trust is represented on the Assembly. Do you mind me asking whether you met Ross and his Assembly colleagues at a NARSA convention?

A sensible answer, must have come from a female. The reality is that there is no Edgar V Blythe. Both are commited Rangers fans who want the best for the Club but maybe have different ideas on how this should happen. Ross was hung out to dry earlier this year on radio. He was forced to admit that he agreed with all 17 points made in the WDB campaign but didn't back it. Let's face it, turkeys don't vote for Christmas. The Assembly is funded by the Club and will never come out criticising it. The Trust is funded by subscriptions from our members plus our own fundraising efforts. Therefore, if we think that the Club is not being run properly we can say so, the Assembly can't and wont. That said, the Trust has always given 100% support to the team. on balance..edgar is right,but that saddens me,cos both are fans..SDM abuses both..he lies.. or am i wrong ? What do you think he lies about?