KingKirk 26,501 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 At this moment in time is not good enough to Win 4IAR, Bar Davis and Naismith we lack work rate, pace and power in this area of the park, We need someone next to Davis of quality. I fear Ally won't bring anyone in because the numbers we have in CM.The Facts are Simple Jig, Edu, Hutton are NOT good enough and just wont do! Ness can he stay injury free? time will tell.Same goes for LW we need a winger of quality, I think we would all agree Ortiz is not a winger, and IMO wylde has a long way to go, he is not good enough at the moment.Does anyone else share my fears that the middle of the park might be over looked by Ally?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordo 33 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Play the same midfield as the end of last season, worked a treat Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GF John 169 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 We've a bid in for Verhoek and we're currently working to bring Bedoya in now, rather than waiting until January.So, no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irwin Sparkes 97 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Davis has to play centrally and Naismith has to play wide rightBut our other central midfielders and left wingers are much of a muchness, and none of them would get into Celtic's team Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,501 Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 We've a bid in for Verhoek and we're currently working to bring Bedoya in now, rather than waiting until January.So, no.One is a right winger and, One is not a CM, we need a CM good enough to play along side Davis Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loan Ranger 48 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 At this moment in time is not good enough to Win 4IAR, Bar Davis and Naismith we lack work rate, pace and power in this area of the park, We need someone next to Davis of quality. I fear Ally won't bring anyone in because the numbers we have in CM.The Facts are Simple Jig, Edu, Hutton are NOT good enough and just wont do! Ness can he stay injury free? time will tell.Same goes for LW we need a winger of quality, I think we would all agree Ortiz is not a winger, and IMO wylde has a long way to go, he is not good enough at the moment.Does anyone else share my fears that the middle of the park might be over looked by Ally?.Its funny when someone describes personal opinion as facts. Ild never be that confident. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GF John 169 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 One is a right winger and, One is not a CM, we need a CM good enough to play along side DavisVerhoek can play on either wing, and Bedoya is primarily a central midfielder who can also play on the flanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,501 Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 This thread has been made in the wrong place.Sorry lads Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-RFC 308 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 The Facts are Simple Jig, Edu, Hutton are NOT good enough and just wont do! Ness can he stay injury free? time will tell.What happened last season? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irwin Sparkes 97 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 We only bossed the midfield in 2 out of 7 Old Firm gamesWe won't win the league if that happens again this season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,501 Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 Its funny when someone describes personal opinion as facts. Ild never be that confident.So In your opinion are Jig Edu and Hutton good enough for us? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,501 Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 What happened last season?Last season is last season, Been and gone, this midfield will not win the title Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltzer83 27 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Edu and mcculloch needs to be replaced by davis and new cm and for me if it were to be edu and mcculloch we will be in trouble not one of them can hurt a team in an attacking sense be it a goal or killer pass Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loan Ranger 48 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 So In your opinion are Jig Edu and Hutton good enough for us?Jig unfortunately no - will always get effort but I do I feel someone else could do better in the Gersey - yes. Edu - He has it in him Hutton - did not look out of place against ManU...says it all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 don't we have the exac same players as last season ( barring wee vlad)and we have added to that midfield too.who won last year? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,430 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Thank god some of the posters on here arent in charge of our club.The same midfield you are currently slating and describing as "not good enough" won a double last year.I fail to see how they aren't good enough to do the same thing again this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-RFC 308 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Last season is last season, Been and gone, this midfield will not win the titleThey have the same ability as they did last season Your "facts" are quite the opposite Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Play the same midfield as the end of last season, worked a treat Wylde is not good enough to get us through a season and almost every fan to man wants Edu replaced.Midfield is a huge problem, it was pivotal to our defensive problems last year and the goals we lost, we surrendered possession to easily, did not protect our defence and never kept the ball for long enough. The goals scored by Jelavic and Miller took so much heat of the rest of the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBoy11 63 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Cut the guy some some slack. He is right, everybody whos just slated the guy would probably agree that Davis does need a CM of quality beside him. A big no nonsense player who defends well and wins the ball. Edu and Jig arent good enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,501 Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 Jig unfortunately no - will always get effort but I do I feel someone else could do better in the Gersey - yes. Edu - He has it in him Hutton - did not look out of place against ManU...says it all.Jig I agreeEdu, has a poor first touch, and is allways getting caught on the ball IMO he has not improved.Hutton I would like to think, If he is any better than the other 2, he would be in our first 11.That your opinion mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,501 Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 If we went into an OF game tomorrow how many would be happy to see the midfield of Ortiz, Edu ,Jig Davis. I know I wouldnt this midfield would get run over the top of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allanger 625 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 It would be great to improve our midfield but it might not happen this transfer window. Fingers crossed though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Thank god some of the posters on here arent in charge of our club.The same midfield you are currently slating and describing as "not good enough" won a double last year.I fail to see how they aren't good enough to do the same thing again this year.Its a general malaisse on here - there are huge swathes of our support who all have stated the following are not good enough for RangersWhittakerBroadfootWeirPapacEduMcCullochHuttonNessWyldeLaffertyFleckBoughera (according to some) should be punted for attitude!McGregor sold for the money as we have just as good a keeper in AlexanderNaismith is always injuredBut apart from these 14 players we are OK.and at least we have Davis (whom many dont rate in the CM role but he is OK on the right) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff 245 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Edu and McCulloch need replaced by a player that brings a bit of composure, positional sense, goes looking for the ball, retain possession, in the oppositions' faces, one who is not scared to do the dirty work and get stuck in.Edu and McCulloch simply cannot play together.Hutton are young, inexperienced, Ness has had problem with injuries.We also need a wide man, left-sided (Wesley Verhoek).The right side is sorted, we have Steven Naismith and Juan Manuel Ortiz. On the left we only have Greg Wylde (Salim Kerkar isn't good enough). Kyle Lafferty, when fit and on form should be fighting for a place up front - hopefully with David Goodwillie, to partner Nikica Jelavic.Over the last two seasons there has been a big debate about our weaknesses, and the midfield has always cropped up. It's something we must address this season. The defence, which was another weakness has become a lot stronger (Wallace and Goian) and if things go they way we want them to, it will be even stronger.Let's strengthen it further more and the team/squad as a whole by adding what we need in midfield; CM and LM/W along with a striker; Goodwillie, and we have one hell of a squad!Let's just say we GET our targetsGK: Allan McGregor, Neil Alexander, Grant Adam.D: Madjid Bougherra, Dorin Goian, Carlos Cuellar/Roland Juhasz, David Weir, Kirk Broadfoot, Steven Whittaker, Lee Wallace, Rhys McCabe, Darren Cole, Sasa Papac.M: Central midfielder, Steven Davis, Steven Naismith, Lee McCulloch, Maurice Edu, Jamie Ness, Kyle Hutton, John Fleck, Salim Kerkar, Juan Manuel Ortiz, Thomas Kind Bendiksen.ST: Nikica Jelavic, Kyle Lafferty, David Goodwillie, James Beattie, David Healy, Kane Hemmings.OK, maybe a few could leave (Beattie, Broadfoot) but that is one hell of a squad, one that has youth, experience, quality and are tied down on long-term contracts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allanger 625 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Edu and McCulloch need replaced by a player that brings a bit of composure, positional sense, goes looking for the ball, retain possession, in the oppositions' faces, one who is not scared to do the dirty work and get stuck in.Edu and McCulloch simply cannot play together.Hutton are young, inexperienced, Ness has had problem with injuries.We also need a wide man, left-sided (Wesley Verhoek).The right side is sorted, we have Steven Naismith and Juan Manuel Ortiz. On the left we only have Greg Wylde (Salim Kerkar isn't good enough). Kyle Lafferty, when fit and on form should be fighting for a place up front - hopefully with David Goodwillie, to partner Nikica Jelavic.Over the last two seasons there has been a big debate about our weaknesses, and the midfield has always cropped up. It's something we must address this season. The defence, which was another weakness has become a lot stronger (Wallace and Goian) and if things go they way we want them to, it will be even stronger.Let's strengthen it further more and the team/squad as a whole by adding what we need in midfield; CM and LM/W along with a striker; Goodwillie, and we have one hell of a squad!Let's just say we GET our targetsGK: Allan McGregor, Neil Alexander, Grant Adam.D: Madjid Bougherra, Dorin Goian, Carlos Cuellar/Roland Juhasz, David Weir, Kirk Broadfoot, Steven Whittaker, Lee Wallace, Rhys McCabe, Darren Cole, Sasa Papac.M: Central midfielder, Steven Davis, Steven Naismith, Lee McCulloch, Maurice Edu, Jamie Ness, Kyle Hutton, John Fleck, Salim Kerkar, Juan Manuel Ortiz, Thomas Kind Bendiksen.ST: Nikica Jelavic, Kyle Lafferty, David Goodwillie, James Beattie, David Healy, Kane Hemmings.OK, maybe a few could leave (Beattie, Broadfoot) but that is one hell of a squad, one that has youth, experience, quality and are tied down on long-term contracts.Great post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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