Bear_Necessities 42 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/the-rundown/clubs-survived-extinction-030615757.htmlI was just reading this article talking about clubs that have gone out of buisness such as napoli, fiorentina etc and noticed it talks about them being able the buy back their history and name. I didn't even know this was a possibility, does anyone know how this works or think it may be an option for us if the worst happened? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 You earn your history, how can you buy a clubs history back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 The history doesn't just disappear, it's in the books, but more importantly, it's in our heads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_Necessities 42 Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 You earn your history, how can you buy a clubs history back.Don't have a clue how it works, just read it in that article and wondered if anyone knew how it worked? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_Necessities 42 Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 The history doesn't just disappear, it's in the books, but more importantly, it's in our heads.Totally agree! No matter what it still happened. We were there and lived through it so it can never just disappear! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
broxibear87 129 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Totally agree! No matter what it still happened. We were there and lived through it so it can never just disappear! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominorfc 0 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 i think the way it works is the clubs name and history are part of the assets that are sold off, and then can be bought back later on.....i read something about Fiorentina and im sure thats how it was explained. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carrickblue 322 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I think what they are getting at is that if a club ceases to exist then it's badge, shirt etc... which are effectively trademarks die with them. Whether what this article says the Italian clubs did would be applicable in Scotland I don't know but I think we need to fact the fact that if Rangers FC is liquidated, a "new" Rangers would begin life with a new badge etc...I agree with other posters here the history of Rangers is a constant both for us and for others - even if the club has to be reformed under a new name there will be a continuity between the achievements of the past and our club's future.On the issue of a new name, I've seen that Middlesborough were refloated by calling the "company" a new name but the team just carried on being Middlesborough - the badge changed though and I think in the case of these Italian clubs their badges have all changed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVB 2,560 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 http://uk.eurosport....-030615757.htmlI was just reading this article talking about clubs that have gone out of buisness such as napoli, fiorentina etc and noticed it talks about them being able the buy back their history and name. I didn't even know this was a possibility, does anyone know how this works or think it may be an option for us if the worst happened?Give yourself a shake mate. Our history is our history. It cannot be bought, sold, or even lost. If we get liquidated & reformed, we are still the same club, the same fans, the same people, and dont let those desperate tim bastards try an convince you otherwise. http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=212713 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,332 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I think what they are getting at is that if a club ceases to exist then it's badge, shirt etc... which are effectively trademarks die with them. Whether what this article says the Italian clubs did would be applicable in Scotland I don't know but I think we need to fact the fact that if Rangers FC is liquidated, a "new" Rangers would begin life with a new badge etc...I agree with other posters here the history of Rangers is a constant both for us and for others - even if the club has to be reformed under a new name there will be a continuity between the achievements of the past and our club's future.On the issue of a new name, I've seen that Middlesborough were refloated by calling the "company" a new name but the team just carried on being Middlesborough - the badge changed though and I think in the case of these Italian clubs their badges have all changed.I think you're pretty well on the money there, mate! When Airdrieonians came back as Airdrie Utd. they had to change their badge and crest, and they had to have a different style shirt instead of the white with red V that was synonymous with "The Diamonds" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcoast Al 1 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I think it is the case that the name of the club and copyrights are owned by the club and therefore will be seen as just another asset that can be sold to raise funds in order to pay creditors. So the name could be bought in this manner.I'm not so sure on "buying History" bit because in my opinion it is our history and non-transferable, if this is the case what is to stop East Fife putting in the highest bid for these and all of a sudden having legal claim to all our achievements. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcheVinny 1,003 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 So, if we get liquidated, I'll have to throw away all my merchandise and erase my memory a la Men In Black cuz the mendicants say so? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw69uk 123 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 The history doesn't just disappear, it's in the books, but more importantly, it's in our heads.You posted something I wholeheartedly agree with Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_Necessities 42 Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 Give yourself a shake mate. Our history is our history. It cannot be bought, sold, or even lost. If we get liquidated & reformed, we are still the same club, the same fans, the same people, and dont let those desperate tim bastards try an convince you otherwise. http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=212713I know, just having to go into to work every day and having those mhanky bastards on my case all day telling me were going to be starting with no titles is doing ma nut in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw69uk 123 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I know, just having to go into to work every day and having those mhanky bastards on my case all day telling me were going to be starting with no titles is doing ma nut in.Just go back and remind them they have won something like, 18 trophies and NO European cup since "they" were reformed as a newco Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVB 2,560 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I know, just having to go into to work every day and having those mhanky bastards on my case all day telling me were going to be starting with no titles is doing ma nut in.Psychological warfare mate. Don't be a casualty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 http://uk.eurosport....-030615757.htmlI was just reading this article talking about clubs that have gone out of buisness such as napoli, fiorentina etc and noticed it talks about them being able the buy back their history and name. I didn't even know this was a possibility, does anyone know how this works or think it may be an option for us if the worst happened?No matter how things pan out, our history will always be there. Nobody, and I mean nobody, can ever take it away from us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Just go back and remind them they have won something like, 18 trophies and NO European cup since "they" were reformed as a newco Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzalivesforever 2,038 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Because East Fife couldn't afford to buy our history. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
offminorthreat 1,467 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 That Napoli pic in the article is nuts! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/the-rundown/clubs-survived-extinction-030615757.htmlI was just reading this article talking about clubs that have gone out of buisness such as napoli, fiorentina etc and noticed it talks about them being able the buy back their history and name. I didn't even know this was a possibility, does anyone know how this works or think it may be an option for us if the worst happened?you can in Italy. here a court needs to make an exception for you. but caseys right you can't erase history. only reset records. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macranger 296 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I think you're pretty well on the money there, mate! When Airdrieonians came back as Airdrie Utd. they had to change their badge and crest, and they had to have a different style shirt instead of the white with red V that was synonymous with "The Diamonds"Can't see why airdrie weren't allowed the red diamond, it's a design!! FFS, man united had the same design for one of their away strips. Rangers strips change every year so the strip would stay the same. Can't see why we couldn't use the same badge, I've seen ours on a rugby top & who's the foreign team with the exact same badge. Who's going to sue us for using it if we go out of business & start again? It's not much use to anyone else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobatai 70 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 History lives in the hearts and minds of people ... it can't be bought or sold or lost. Ties to history can be bought or sold or lost, as has obviously happened with the Arsenal shares. And as has been shown it's painful when such ties are broken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
offminorthreat 1,467 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I think you're pretty well on the money there, mate! When Airdrieonians came back as Airdrie Utd. they had to change their badge and crest, and they had to have a different style shirt instead of the white with red V that was synonymous with "The Diamonds"My family is from Airdrie are they are still wearing the famous white with red diamond and the team is still referred to as the Diamonds. The crest is different though as is the name obviously, and it shits me. That said everyone, at least in my family anyway, still refers to them as Airdrieonians.Just like how there will always be a team called Rangers who wear blue.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,332 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Can't see why airdrie weren't allowed the red diamond, it's a design!! FFS, man united had the same design for one of their away strips. Rangers strips change every year so the strip would stay the same. Can't see why we couldn't use the same badge, I've seen ours on a rugby top & who's the foreign team with the exact same badge. Who's going to sue us for using it if we go out of business & start again? It's not much use to anyone else.I know what you are saying mate about the strips,but Airdrie Utd. couldn't wear the exact same strip as Airdrieonians so they have one that's very similar to the old one but not exactly the same.Their badge/crest however is completely different and a lot of supporters never went back after Airdrieonians became Airdrie United,for one reason or another. I don't know what the rules are regarding badges/crests are but I'm sure that we will not finish up like Airdrie did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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