theySTILLKNOW 80 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 If you're comfortable with it, carry on. It's something which I would associate with the likes of Darlington, Chester or Stockport, no offence to any of them.To be honest casey the situation we're in no Rangers fan is comfortable with it,it's horrible,so far it's been doom gloom and more doom.After the kicking we've had in Scotland the news of a possible game against Hamburg and possibly Arsenal fans giving to a fund,makes it a little more positive.I still know were your coming from and understand your point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 To be honest casey the situation we're in no Rangers fan is comfortable with it,it's horrible,so far it's been doom gloom and more doom.After the kicking we've had in Scotland the news of a possible game against Hamburg and possibly Arsenal fans giving to a fund,makes it a little more positive.I still know were your coming from and understand your point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben10 2,273 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Arsenal is probably the classiest club in England and but for the romanticism that surrounds the Munich Disaster would probably be the country's biggest club.What a lot of pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben10 2,273 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 get that scum off your profile pic, socialist bastard Coatbridge eh ? Fenian fucker Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek1872 548 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Arsenal is probably the classiest club in England and but for the romanticism that surrounds the Munich Disaster would probably be the country's biggest club.Romaticism? What are you fucking talking about? Are we Scotlands biggest club because of any romanticism surrounding the Ibrox disaster? What an embarrasment of a post Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearer 124 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Any teams coming out and supporting Rangers will work in their favour, just thInk of the bears that will go on to buy a top or go to one of their games. An annual friendly with Arsenal would be great Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Negri's Beard 1,423 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Arsenal is probably the classiest club in England and but for the romanticism that surrounds the Munich Disaster would probably be the country's biggest club.Romanticism of half a team dying in a plane crash? What the fuck are you on about? Don't see how that, in any way, prevents arsenal from being the biggest club in England. Arsenal are a well run club and a club I have plenty of time for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobatai 70 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Romaticism? What are you fucking talking about? Are we Scotlands biggest club because of any romanticism surrounding the Ibrox disaster? What an embarrasment of a post Fact of the matter is that before Munich Manchester United was just another club. You may be too ignorant to see that, but that's your problem, not mine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Negri's Beard 1,423 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Fact of the matter is that before Munich Manchester United was just another club. You may be too ignorant to see that, but that's your problem, not mine.So an air disaster killing half their team in the 50s caused them to win 2 European cups and countless titles? Tenuous. What all English teams wouldn't give now for their very own air disaster eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markybear 136 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 See bullet 15.1. The initiative has been approved by the administrators, the club tried to get something in place before now but were told to wait. Club can't do anything without their approval. Not to be confused with a share issue. Will be "open, honest and upfront".2. Money will go into RSA bank account via bank transfer, PayPal or at any uk high st bank.3. Will be run through RSA Facebook page and vote was taken to have it included on club website. Press release Monday afternoon/ Tuesday depending on Ally McCoist availability.4. RSA will have a running total on their Facebook page.5. Reasoning behind sheme is to plug any funding gaps between now and the end of the season and create a contingency fund for the close season, should no buyer be found.6. Offer of 2 friendlies, one vs Portsmouth and one vs Hamburg. Vote was taken to host Hamburg who have offered to play us but only take expenses e.g. travel and accomodation. Was thought that a game against Portsmouth would create more ridicule in the press.7. The Hamburg game will be funded by the fans and will be a fans game, prices will be set to accomodate families. Directors box will be made available to fans.8. Was made clear that not one penny would go to Whyte or any admin or legal fees. The supporters there made it quite clear noone would donate if that was the case.9. Money will go to day to day running costs of the club. Commitee will meet with the administrators on a weekly basis to find out how much is needed to fill any gaps.10. Jim Hannah/ Sandy Jardine will contact NARSA. They will be in Northern Ireland on Wednesday to have a similar meeting with supporters clubs there.11. Mini union jacks to be sold at old firm game for £2. Were originally to be placed on seats for free but some supporters groups suggested they be sold. Likely to sell well at an Old Firm match.12. Committee happy for clubs to hold fundraisers. Was suggested that the club supply a free signed jersey to an supporters clubs hosting fundraisers to be auctioned off.13. Still some things to be ironed out regarding International bank transfers. Will probably be best for all NARSA clubs to group their donations together and have the money donated through NARSA on a regular basis.****14. Sandy Jardine stated that 7 bidders came forward after Duff and Phelps statement on Wednesday, they have had their proposals assessed and this has now been reduced to 3 serious bidders.****15. Arsenal supporters clubs have pledged to raise money for the fund, they see it as repayment for use helping them out in 1908 when they were on the brink.16. 100% of supporters there voted to go ahead with the Fighting Fund.17. Any supporter with ideas on how to raise funds to contact Jim Hannah.Jim Hannah's email address would be handy for fwding ideas onto him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobatai 70 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 So an air disaster killing half their team in the 50s caused them to win 2 European cups and countless titles? Tenuous. What all English teams wouldn't give now for their very own air disaster eh?Sentimentality is a curious thing. The Serbs celebrate the anniversary of their greatest defeat as their "National Day". The Southern states in American have infused the short-lived Confederacy with romanticism ... the idea of the "Lost Cause". But, hey, what do sixteen shares in Arsenal mean in the modern world? Nothing. Just a link to history. Sentimentality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Negri's Beard 1,423 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Sentimentality is a curious thing. The Serbs celebrate the anniversary of their greatest defeat as their "National Day". The Southern states in American have infused the short-lived Confederacy with romanticism ... the idea of the "Lost Cause". But, hey, what do sixteen shares in Arsenal mean in the modern world? Nothing. Just a link to history. Sentimentality.Way to avoid anything from my post. While Munich certainly adds to the United story, it does not hold any influence over the fact that they are the biggest club in England. To claim such a thing is daft. Decades of recent success might just have had something to do with the stature of their club.Sentimentality can be overdone in the modern world but I'd have no problem with Arsenal supporter groups choosing to ask their fans to consider helping us out in our time of need. It's a nice thought, simple as that. You might have problems with sentimentality in the modern world but there's nothing wrong with showing some care for others Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobatai 70 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Way to avoid anything from my post. While Munich certainly adds to the United story, it does not hold any influence over the fact that they are the biggest club in England. To claim such a thing is daft. Decades of recent success might just have had something to do with the stature of their club.And yet it was only last season that United surpassed Liverpool in the success stakes and the Old Trafford club is nowhere near Liverpool when it comes to European Cups. Yet, Liverpool was never as "big" as United. Of course no club wants the tragedy of a Munich, but it's silly not to recognise the part the tragedy played in making the modern Manchester United. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Negri's Beard 1,423 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 And yet it was only last season that United surpassed Liverpool in the success stakes and the Old Trafford club is nowhere near Liverpool when it comes to European Cups. Yet, Liverpool was never as "big" as United. Of course no club wants the tragedy of a Munich, but it's silly not to recognise the part the tragedy played in making the modern Manchester United.Silly not to recognise it - hence why I recognised it in my previous post. Certainly not in any way a defining characteristic though. Simply, united winning trophies and selling their global brand on that success, makes them the biggest club in England. if Arsenal win trophies, you'll soon see them emerging as one of the biggest forces in England again Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben10 2,273 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 And yet it was only last season that United surpassed Liverpool in the success stakes and the Old Trafford club is nowhere near Liverpool when it comes to European Cups. Yet, Liverpool was never as "big" as United. Of course no club wants the tragedy of a Munich, but it's silly not to recognise the part the tragedy played in making the modern Manchester United.So how do arsenal come into it when they don't even hold a european honour ? Daft Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek1872 548 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Fact of the matter is that before Munich Manchester United was just another club. You may be too ignorant to see that, but that's your problem, not mine.What an abortion of a poster you are. English teams had only been in the European cup for a couple of years before it happened. How the fuck can you say losing that many people in a disaster means Arsenal arent the top team in England. Are you fucking mental or what? Arsenal arent even Englands second biggest club. Hey wait a minute maybe the romaticism of the Hillsborough disaster made Liverpool the second biggest club eh?Fucking hell. You have got to be a taig with idiocy like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek1872 548 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 And yet it was only last season that United surpassed Liverpool in the success stakes and the Old Trafford club is nowhere near Liverpool when it comes to European Cups. Yet, Liverpool was never as "big" as United. Of course no club wants the tragedy of a Munich, but it's silly not to recognise the part the tragedy played in making the modern Manchester United.By your idiocy are you then claiming Celtic are bigger than Rangers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobatai 70 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 So how do arsenal come into it when they don't even hold a european honour ? DaftWeird that a club whose fans are so steeped in history claim ignorance of the role history plays elsewhere ... Arsenal have the history. The marble halls of Highbury. Prior to Munich Manchester United was just another provincial club. Why is James Dean so well remembered, in spite of only starring in four films? Think Hendrix, Cobain and others in the music industry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobatai 70 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Fucking hell. You have got to be a taig with idiocy like that.Whatever you say, Eamonn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek1872 548 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Aren't you the guy who made a thread crying his eyes out about taig allegations?Hypocrite!!Of all the people I expected to jump onto this thread you were top of the list. Im surprised you arent agreeing with him or asking for me to be banned AGAIN! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek1872 548 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Weird that a club whose fans are so steeped in history claim ignorance of the role history plays elsewhere ... Arsenal have the history. The marble halls of Highbury. Prior to Munich Manchester United was just another provincial club. Why is James Dean so well remembered, in spite of only starring in four films? Think Hendrix, Cobain and others in the music industry.Are you a crack addict? Man U had just won the league 2 years running prior to it happening. Just another club? Why are you comparing Musicians and film stars to Man United? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben10 2,273 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Weird that a club whose fans are so steeped in history claim ignorance of the role history plays elsewhere ... Arsenal have the history. The marble halls of Highbury. Prior to Munich Manchester United was just another provincial club. Why is James Dean so well remembered, in spite of only starring in four films? Think Hendrix, Cobain and others in the music industry.You're just talking a lot of shite now. Making no sense and ignoring questions that would lead your theory to failure. Arsenal are a small club in England, as I say, what does the Munich disaster have to do with Arsenal accomplishing nothing in Europe in their entire history ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 The current global situation suggests that Manchester United are by some distance currently the biggest club in England, surpassing the status that Liverpool held throughout the 70s and 80s. Arsenal have been consistently in the area and are by no means a small club, certainly with a more successful history and wider fanbase than teams like Chelsea.Back when I was a kid, the 'Big 5' in England was Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal, Spurs and Man U, 4 of those teams are probably in what would now be a big 6, although Man City have a lot of catching up to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek1872 548 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 You're like a little baby, I mentioned the ban thing a couple of times as a joke and you continue to bring it up. About time you man up, manure lover!Dont know many little babies that can type but hey ho. You mentioned it 4 times. Your jokes are as funny as getting a hernia. Nice to see you didnt bother to deny you agree with him. Can't say im surprised tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobatai 70 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Are you a crack addict? Man U had just won the league 2 years running prior to it happening. Just another club? Why are you comparing Musicians and film stars to Man United?I'll leave you to your blissful ignorance, Eamonn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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