SteveJ 743 Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 I'm not sure why he reckons the Italian courts would have jurisdiction in respect of the UK statutory obligations of a company that is registered in Scotland. There might, I suppose, be an EU law dimension to this but I really can't see where that might be. Still, anything that might hit back at the SFA and SPL can only be a good thing.He may not be qualified as a lawyer, but he has made a damn good reputation from it. He has represented Hollywood film stars and made plenty from it!Italian law is very strict on certain things and protecting their people is one of them. If he states, as a shareholder he has been misled, then I am sure it could get nasty. My only worry is, his share is after the administration and not before, but I am sure he knows this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 so that makes it facts then. second photo is genuine.I ain't gonna post every photo - it would push RM's bandwidth through the roof - if you are a skeptic, do your own digging. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss 1,941 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I'm not sure why he reckons the Italian courts would have jurisdiction in respect of the UK statutory obligations of a company that is registered in Scotland. There might, I suppose, be an EU law dimension to this but I really can't see where that might be. Still, anything that might hit back at the SFA and SPL can only be a good thing.Various angles, say, putting Rangers into liquidation (which it isn't yet) could be prejudicial to the interests of an Italian shareholder. Or, fraud carried out while the regulators (SFA) turn a blind eye. If only Carling did European arrest warrants for Regan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnw 22 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 hope something comes of this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I ain't gonna post every photo - it would push RM's bandwidth through the roof - if you are a skeptic, do your own digging.Thanks Steve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,324 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 He may not be qualified as a lawyer, but he has made a damn good reputation from it. He has represented Hollywood film stars and made plenty from it!Italian law is very strict on certain things and protecting their people is one of them. If he states, as a shareholder he has been misled, then I am sure it could get nasty. My only worry is, his share is after the administration and not before, but I am sure he knows this.Hope he is for real, if he had our interests at heart why didn't he just advertise for existings shareholders to contact him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Can somebody explain wtf's going on here please? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 Hope he is for real, if he had our interests at heart why didn't he just advertise for existings shareholders to contact him?I think for him to go through Italian courts, he had to find an Italian shareholder or own it himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,324 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I think for him to go through Italian courts, he had to find an Italian shareholder or own it himself.Hope so, at this point anyone digging is an advantage, wil wait and see though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Right I tried to understand what the fuck is happening in this thread .Unfortunately I'm over qualified ,so could someone please explain in laymans terms , Cheers . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 Can somebody explain wtf's going on here please?Di Steffano has managed to get himself a share in Rangers FC PLC and by that, he states he can now challenge the administration of the club and business. He has also stated that he will pursue the case via Italy, which will ensure the newco is not hit with penalties (in my opinion) but the biggest thing is - Rangers have a legal eagle looking out for us. We need legal protection, so we need fans to back this, regardless of how ridiculous it could seem to some. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Di Steffano has managed to get himself a share in Rangers FC PLC and by that, he states he can now challenge the administration of the club and business. He has also stated that he will pursue the case via Italy, which will ensure the newco is not hit with penalties (in my opinion) but the biggest thing is - Rangers have a legal eagle looking out for us. We need legal protection, so we need fans to back this, regardless of how ridiculous it could seem to some.Thanks. So things could get very interesting (in our favour)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Right I tried to understand what the fuck is happening in this thread .Unfortunately I'm over qualified ,so could someone please explain in laymans terms , Cheers ."Over qualified"I laughed at that as I think you're actually being serious............................. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue corn flakes 1,282 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 we owed loyds 17 or 18 million, we sold 4 years of season tickets to ticketus for 24 million, we then paid loyds there money leaving us with 4 or 5 million which we then used some to keep certain players on big deals15 million unpaid taxes. were did whyte put that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 "Over qualified"I laughed at that as I think you're actually being serious.............................So did I! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue68 2,497 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I have a feeling this is fake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 Thanks. So things could get very interesting (in our favour)?Yes and NO.I am not a legal eagle and only use common sense as my degree.If Di Stefano writes to the SFA tomorrow stating his intention to pursue his case on Rangers FC PLC, I fear the SFA will have no option but to refuse Sevco the membership for newco Rangers, meaning that Rangers will have no league during 2012/13.If Di Stefano clears our name and we don't go down the newco route, would a year out be so bad? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Yes and NO.I am not a legal eagle and only use common sense as my degree.If Di Stefano writes to the SFA tomorrow stating his intention to pursue his case on Rangers FC PLC, I fear the SFA will have no option but to refuse Sevco the membership for newco Rangers, meaning that Rangers will have no league during 2012/13.If Di Stefano clears our name and we don't go down the newco route, would a year out be so bad?Jeezo. Where and when will it all end? If ever.Am gettin too auld for aw this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Yes and NO.I am not a legal eagle and only use common sense as my degree.If Di Stefano writes to the SFA tomorrow stating his intention to pursue his case on Rangers FC PLC, I fear the SFA will have no option but to refuse Sevco the membership for newco Rangers, meaning that Rangers will have no league during 2012/13.If Di Stefano clears our name and we don't go down the newco route, would a year out be so bad?I believe his intention long term is similar to Bill Millers, he will amalgamate both together again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 This is Mental , by a Mentalist, but could be serious as this could Roll and Roll and Roll and Roll and Roll.Well you know what I mean.We have been stitched up Major, and we the Fans have been the big losers in all of this.See if he manages to prove us innocent I will be the first to Buy him a drink in The Louden. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime69 514 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I believe his intention long term is similar to Bill Millers, he will amalgamate both together again.but would Miller not have owed oldco and newco??would this plan not need Green and his consortium onside? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Wull 203 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Various angles, say, putting Rangers into liquidation (which it isn't yet) could be prejudicial to the interests of an Italian shareholder. Or, fraud carried out while the regulators (SFA) turn a blind eye. If only Carling did European arrest warrants for Regan.I just don't see on what basis the Italian civil courts can have jurisdiction. If there had been a contract made between Rangers and Di Stefano in Italy or the contract between them was to be performed in Italy then, yes, the Italian courts could well have jurisdiction. Otherwise, Di Stefano's legal remedy would have to come from the courts in Scotland. Also, if he wanted to, for example, take out an interdict against the SFA or SPL then he'd have to do that in a Scottish court, as we saw in the Ryan Giggs case, when an English super-injunction had no legal effect in Scotland.Some criminal courts in Europe have extra-territorial jurisdiction but that relates to their own citizens, as German ex-F1 driver Adrian Sutil found out to his cost a few months ago when he was convicted in a German court of a charge relating to an incident that occurred in a Shanghai nightclub. Ultimately, though what's important is that Di Stefano just might be the sort of man who will take up the cudgels on behalf of our club. We certainly live in interesting times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblueyonder 11,158 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 but would Miller not have owed oldco and newco??would this plan not need Green and his consortium onside?Aye it would, and looks unlikely to succeed... worst case scenario could be no football next year and the possibility of two Rangers teams... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordy61 16 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 He might be a bit of a nutter but he`s streetwise and will fight for us whenever he can.Of course it`s good PR for him,but he does have contacts inside UEFA,having said that he`s probably got contacts in Pentonville Prison too.Also,he claims to be in touch with overseas interests too.which might lead to financial benefits for us.As I said,he`s a maverick.....but he`s our maverick now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 "Over qualified"I laughed at that as I think you're actually being serious.............................No booler ,I'm just So did I! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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