BlueThunder 8,454 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Why do I get the feeling that even if the nutcase actually uncovers something, we will actually be punished MORE because of it. If this was a Hollywood film he'd be sleeping with the fishes by tomorrow morning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right_To_Censor 1,951 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 we owed loyds 17 or 18 million, we sold 4 years of season tickets to ticketus for 24 million, we then paid loyds there money leaving us with 4 or 5 million which we then used some to keep certain players on big deals Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 looks photoshopped to meWhy would a man who has been in every court in the land, photoshop a share document? C'mon man, stop acting like a Celtic fan and being all skeptical! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 Why do I get the feeling that even if the nutcase actually uncovers something, we will actually be punished MORE because of it. If this was a Hollywood film he'd be sleeping with the fishes by tomorrow morning. That is why he has mentioned the 'jurisdiction'. He is using his Italian residence to challenge, rather than through a Scottish court, which means Rangers old or new, cannot be held responsible - or that is my interpretation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblueyonder 11,158 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I thought the transfer and trading of shares had been suspended....my brother got one of these buy a gift shares for his birthday in December and hasnt been able to actually get the share because of this?You're correct trading in shares is suspended... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 338 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 looks photoshopped to meThat's because you're a fucking moron who doesn't use Photoshop Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I'm a shareholder too. Why no thread for me?me too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,512 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Why would a man who has been in every court in the land, photoshop a share document? C'mon man, stop acting like a Celtic fan and being all skeptical!look at the photo, too many straight lines, I know I can do it, it's easy. once the guy is sitting getting interviewed on the Scottish news I will believe it's genuine, not some wind up Spanish radio station and fake twitter account. until then it's complete bullshit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGM_72 3,734 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 we owed loyds 17 or 18 million, we sold 4 years of season tickets to ticketus for 24 million, we then paid loyds there money leaving us with 4 or 5 million which we then used some to keep certain players on big dealsRight but I'm not sure how that proves we weren't an insolvency case. Is he forgetting the money we owed ticketus? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 we owed loyds 17 or 18 million, we sold 4 years of season tickets to ticketus for 24 million, we then paid loyds there money leaving us with 4 or 5 million which we then used some to keep certain players on big dealsThat is what we all know, what we don't know, is where the £13M retained from players wages went, that should have went to HMRC in form of income tax from Whyte's tenure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Why do I get the feeling that even if the nutcase actually uncovers something, we will actually be punished MORE because of it. If this was a Hollywood film he'd be sleeping with the fishes by tomorrow morning. As a shareholder, I would absolutely love if the law came down on our side. Can't see how the fitba people can punish the club over the desire for justice from shareholders.We'll see where GDS takes this. He's offering clues on Twitter - read in reverse to make sense of this -GIOVANNI DI STEFANO @DEVILSADVOKATand NOT only in this jurisdiction BUT also ITALY cos I am an italian citizen and as one I am protected by the constitution16m GIOVANNI DI STEFANO @DEVILSADVOKATNEVER insolvent and millions missing and the SFA will have to take that into account and as a shareholder I have the right to take court16m GIOVANNI DI STEFANO @DEVILSADVOKATBUT the HMRC has NEVER been the problem...its a contingent liability...in feb 2012 RFC PLC assets exceeded its liabilities17m GIOVANNI DI STEFANO @DEVILSADVOKATand before all you critics open your big mouths the Statute is valid today as when it was signed and I know cos I WON in 2003 with it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblueyonder 11,158 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 He's got a point though, for us not to have had enough money to pay the PAYE/TAX/NI and whatever we'd have needed to have been running at a loss of £15m approx for the period up to admin... When did we ever make that kind of loss (recently) wasn't so much spending and a few daft increases in wages but does make you wonder.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASGOWRFC 101 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Nobody has ever determined if it's even Di Stefano's twitter account beyond any doubt!...it could be photoshopped easily. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I'm a shareholder too. Why no thread for me?Unless you got a dodgy name and have nicked Steve Wonders glasses ,you no chance mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I could get slagged stupid on here for backing him, but, we haven't had ONE lawyer fight our corner apart from transfer embargo, do u no think the twigs would have not got the best lawyers fighting their corner, by I hope this guy returns something for us. We bloody deserve it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,263 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 If this guy's for real why is he obsessed with our club, what's in it for him?Either a wind up or I'm very confused Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoorie 1,088 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 So if the deal was illegal when White took over, HMRC have no claim over any money, the club was not insolvent but went to the wall anyway, money is missing through the dealings of D&P and White , Rangers plc get punished for exactly WHAT?My head is spinning.....This could run for years because of fuckwitts like this. This is not going to be over soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 If this guy's for real why is he obsessed with our club, what's in it for him?Either a wind up or I'm very confused He said Rangers stood by him @ Dundee and he's repaying Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 Nobody has ever determined if it's even Di Stefano's twitter account beyond any doubt!...it could be photoshopped easily.I have checked the account and the images attached to it, and it was my opinion that it is genuine. Certain tweets, certain images, all point to the man himself.Some people might say I talk shite but I would not be focusing on this unless I was sure.One image in particular: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alnic3856 358 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 If this guy's for real why is he obsessed with our club, what's in it for him?Either a wind up or I'm very confused It's what he does, I hink he does it for the fun of it and I aint even kidding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Wull 203 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I could get slagged stupid on here for backing him, but, we haven't had ONE lawyer fight our corner apart from transfer embargo, do u no think the twigs would have not got the best lawyers fighting their corner, by I hope this guy returns something for us. We bloody deserve it.I'm not sure why he reckons the Italian courts would have jurisdiction in respect of the UK statutory obligations of a company that is registered in Scotland. There might, I suppose, be an EU law dimension to this but I really can't see where that might be. Still, anything that might hit back at the SFA and SPL can only be a good thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietofWorms 2,067 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 It's what he does, I hink he does it for the fun of it and I aint even kidding.He's a professional cage-rattler and, if genuine, this would be a massive story for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,263 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 He said Rangers stood by him @ Dundee and he's repayingNever knew that m8....cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss 1,941 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 This is the most significant tweet of the evening:GIOVANNI DI STEFANO @DEVILSADVOKATand NOT only in this jurisdiction BUT also ITALY cos I am an italian citizen and as one I am protected by the constitutionThink about the potential implications. Think hard. Yes, GDS is a complete mentalist, but Regan should be looking to appoint Italian lawyers, utterly corrupt ones at that (is there another kind?) with contacts at the very top. Because sure as anything, GDS has, erm, access to Italian judges. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,512 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I have checked the account and the images attached to it, and it was my opinion that it is genuine. Certain tweets, certain images, all point to the man himself.Some people might say I talk shite but I would not be focusing on this unless I was sure.One image in particular:so that makes it facts then. second photo is genuine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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