area51 19 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 murray received £6.3m via an EBT.He told the BBC he had never received any payment from any trust which involved contributions from Rangers FC.He was lying. The money came out of our coffers but paid by MIH (or MIM). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Murray received, via an EBT, from Rangers, £6.3 million over the piece. Ogilvie's was substantially less. The common factor in both was that they actually understood how an EBT worked. Unfortunately for us, yer average football agent and their clients didn't, hence the side letters/agreements. This is why we find ourselves in the shyte we are in.Utter pish Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non_Sucumbi 876 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 2.5% is a million over 10 years. If true, it's hardly earth shattering.Hardly 'earth shattering' but yet another example of Murray benefiting from Rangers. All these 'wee millions' that the charlatan pocketed soon mount up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Hardly 'earth shattering' but yet another example of Murray benefiting from Rangers. All these 'wee millions' that the charlatan pocketed soon mount up."if true" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Rangers administered the scheme, did they?? My understanding is that the scheme was setup and administered by the 'Murray Group Management Remuneration Trust'.Agreed - my only point being we caant be found guilty of having an EBT scheme, if there is anything that we could be found guilty of (and I don't think there is) it was how the scheme was utilised (The question of side, undeclared, contracts / letters - although I believe there is no case to answer) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowingmonkeyhead 62 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 People should not post if they dont understand the facts as this shite getting discussed on hear just plays into the hand of our enemies and their shite stirring.Rangers are not getting investigated by the SPL for using EBT's.EBT's are/were perfectly legal while we used them.HMRC have taken on the Old co over our administration of EBT's but no judgement has been made and the decision whatever it is will not be used to strip titles from Rangers. No charges will be criminal and any money deemed owed comes out the creditors pot controlled by Duff & Phelps.The SPL are investigating Rangers for players dual contracts not disclosed to them.EBT's are not contractual thus no side / dual contract.SPL / SFA aware of Rangers's EBT's for years as stated in our audited annual accounts.Celtics EBT case with Juninho is same as Rangers and the fact he got the money when he left has no baring otherwise why do all clubs just arrange to pay players peanuts with a huge golden handshake when the leave?Anyway dont believe all the fiction coming from the filth and post it on hear as fact = your letting Rangers down Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 People should not post if they dont understand the facts as this shite getting discussed on hear just plays into the hand of our enemies and their shite stirring.Rangers are not getting investigated by the SPL for using EBT's.EBT's are/were perfectly legal while we used them.HMRC have taken on the Old co over our administration of EBT's but no judgement has been made and the decision whatever it is will not be used to strip titles from Rangers. No charges will be criminal and any money deemed owed comes out the creditors pot controlled by Duff & Phelps.The SPL are investigating Rangers for players dual contracts not disclosed to them.EBT's are not contractual thus no side / dual contract.SPL / SFA aware of Rangers's EBT's for years as stated in our audited annual accounts.Celtics EBT case with Juninho is same as Rangers and the fact he got the money when he left has no baring otherwise why do all clubs just arrange to pay players peanuts with a huge golden handshake when the leave?Anyway dont believe all the fiction coming from the filth and post it on hear as fact = your letting Rangers down Cant argue with any of that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 People should not post if they dont understand the facts as this shite getting discussed on hear just plays into the hand of our enemies and their shite stirring.Rangers are not getting investigated by the SPL for using EBT's.EBT's are/were perfectly legal while we used them.HMRC have taken on the Old co over our administration of EBT's but no judgement has been made and the decision whatever it is will not be used to strip titles from Rangers. No charges will be criminal and any money deemed owed comes out the creditors pot controlled by Duff & Phelps.The SPL are investigating Rangers for players dual contracts not disclosed to them.EBT's are not contractual thus no side / dual contract.SPL / SFA aware of Rangers's EBT's for years as stated in our audited annual accounts.Celtics EBT case with Juninho is same as Rangers and the fact he got the money when he left has no baring otherwise why do all clubs just arrange to pay players peanuts with a huge golden handshake when the leave?Anyway dont believe all the fiction coming from the filth and post it on hear as fact = your letting Rangers downAhem.....my understanding is that HMRC had already ruled against Rangers (OldCo) in this EBT scheme and that what is ongoing now is our appeal against said decision.Is this fact or fiction? Boss? Boss? Come out, come out wherever you are?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,296 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Celtics EBT case with Juninho is same as Rangers and the fact he got the money when he left has no baring otherwise why do all clubs just arrange to pay players peanuts with a huge golden handshake when the leave?A golden handshake, I thought it was just the remainder of his contract. If it was just the remainder of his contract that makes a difference IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Ahem.....my understanding is that HMRC had already ruled against Rangers (OldCo) in this EBT scheme and that what is ongoing now is our appeal against said decision.Is this fact or fiction? Boss? Boss? Come out, come out wherever you are?? Difficult one as strictly speaking its true though "ruled against" is a bit strong. HMRC have raised an assessment as to what they believe is owed and the FTTT are the means for any business to dispute that assessment. Hope that makes sense Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Difficult one as strictly speaking its true though "ruled against" is a bit strong. HMRC have raised an assessment as to what they believe is owed and the FTTT are the means for any business to dispute that assessment. Hope that makes sense As much sense as a Paddy McCourt post-match interview after their weekend defeat to the Perth mob."Sure now...sure now...sure now....where's me' horse'n'cart?" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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