ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 He denied being part of the consortium because he was not part of it.Well he could have easily have said he wasn't part of it but is a shareholder. simple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,805 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Well he could have easily have said he wasn't part of it but is a shareholder. simple.Exactly, but if I remember correctly, thats not how it sounded!! I remember Green being asked in interviews about this guy.. Green claimed he invested, but the guy said he didnt! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,906 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 And...The music played... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 No sdm , no whyte , no bain , no tbk , no lloyds, no ticketus, No Surrender Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1872 3,821 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Since More Than A Fan is looking for a catch, I might throw a spanner into the works with this one:"It lists the holders of 19.8 million of the 22 million shares issued so far."So, where's the other 2.2m worth of shares? Or am I just reading too much into it ?And on the Hart situation, in the interview with STV the other night Green used him as an example of a shareholder.Anyway, nothing worrying jumping out of that list to me. Looking forward to the prospectus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz92 966 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 So, where's the other 2.2m worth of shares?Dingwall sat on them, they're fucked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,464 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Well he could have easily have said he wasn't part of it but is a shareholder. simple.At the time Green was putting together a CVA, Hart had money sitting in the club and told Green he could use it towards getting a CVA. This is what he said when he denied being part of the consortium. At this point he didn't know he'd be a shareholder in a new company further down the line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 21,542 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Have we not all stopped paying attention to this disgrace to the Legal profession yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Since More Than A Fan is looking for a catch, I might throw a spanner into the works with this one:"It lists the holders of 19.8 million of the 22 million shares issued so far."So, where's the other 2.2m worth of shares? Or am I just reading too much into it ?And on the Hart situation, in the interview with STV the other night Green used him as an example of a shareholder.Anyway, nothing worrying jumping out of that list to me. Looking forward to the prospectus.When's it out? Do you know if it will be via e-mail or post? I would think sending them out to everyone who has registered interest would cost to much? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz92 966 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 When's it out? Do you know if it will be via e-mail or post? I would think sending them out to everyone who has registered interest would cost to much?Green said it would be in the public domain, I imagine possibly the club site. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1872 3,821 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 When's it out? Do you know if it will be via e-mail or post? I would think sending them out to everyone who has registered interest would cost to much?Green said it will be in the Public Domain mate. I imagine it will go to all who expressed an interest, not sure in what form though. It would make sense financially to e-mail it out, no real costs involved. Even those who haven't registered an interest will be able to view it though as someone will upload it for download etc.I'm sure Green said it'll be out in a few weeks.EDIT: it'll probably be on the website as well, as someone above said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 11,060 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Is that not the guy that proved Green was a liar when he said he wasn't involved? He hadn't signed up at that point. He bought in after that. I heard Green or Malcolm Murray say that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 11,060 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 How the fuck do taigs get a hold of these lists?Probably somebody at the printers of the prospectus, that is often how these get released. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlanssister 157 Posted October 22, 2012 Author Share Posted October 22, 2012 Probably somebody at the printers of the prospectus, that is often how these get released.It correlates pretty much to what McLaughlin wrote on the BBC website in August save no mention of Naqvi or Abraaj Capital. so he may have got it from McLaughlin or from the same source. BBC Scotland can reveal that a Dubai-based businessman is currently the single largest shareholder in Rangers.Arif Naqvi, chief executive of private equity firm Abraaj Capital, owns just under 18% after agreeing to invest £2m back in June.Naqvi is the man behind Blue Pitch Holdings, but BBC Scotland understands that he has a personal holding in the club.Rangers boss Ally McCoist also owns a stake in the club.McCoist has stake of around 4.5% in RangersNewcastle owner Mike Ashley is expected to announce his £1m investment next week, securing around 9% of the club.The way was paved for that investment after Rangers ripped up their deal with retailers JJB Sports in favour of Ashley's Sports Direct company.Charles Green took control of the club on 14 June, announcing his intention to secure a number of investors from across the globe.He has always insisted that no one individual will own more than 15%.Other investors include Imran Ahmad and Richard Hughes, from Zeus Capital, who own 9.8% each,Gers boss McCoist has also bought into the consortium and owns a share of about 4.5%.Scottish-based businessman Ian Hart, who was part of the Blue Knights group, has a shareholding of 1.3%.The shares will be diluted, though, after Green launches an IPO share issue allowing fans to buy into the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Is that not the guy that proved Green was a liar when he said he wasn't involved? Unless it's the roi player that played for Leeds Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblueyonder 11,158 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Sorry can someone explain how Hart became an investor in the new company without putting money in?Are we saying Green just transferred over his holiding? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights 2,529 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I fucking love Ally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the know 26 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Blue Pitch Holdings Mazen Houssami – 4 millionMargarita Funds Holding Trust – 2.6 millionImran Ahmad, Rangers – 2.2 millionRichard Hughes, Zeus Capital – 2.2 millionGorbon Ltd – 1.55 millionNorne Anstalt – 1.2 millionAlly McCoist, Rangers – 1 millionGlenmuir – 1 millionDavid Gowan - 1 million Laxsey Partners - 1 millionEurovestech - 1 millionCraig Mather – 900kAndy Hosie – 900kPutney Holdings Adrian Corr - 600kIan Hart – 490kGraham Herring - 400kChris Morgan, Asia Credit Corporation – 400kAlan Mackenzie – 250kJean Haddad – 250kPatrick Oddie 200kMalcolm Murray, Rangers - 200kColin Howell, Unicorn Asset Mgt – 200kJohn McClure, Unicorn Asset Mgt – 200kAngus Kinnear. Arsenal FC - 100kJohn Goold Zeus – 100kElias Kaisar – 100kStephen Adams, Kames Capital (Head of UK Equities)– 50kIan Cormack – 25kJohn Graham – 25kLikely Mike Ashley will come in for circa 2m shares. CG gets 10% (likely to be 5m shares)They don't know everything. Fans have so far committed £20m indicatively will probably end up owning 16.7m shares in the club. institutions likely to put another £20m so will also get 16.7m shares. IPO price likely to be £1.20So post IPO roughly 65m shares in issues with share price of £1.20. £78m mkt cap with Rangers property assets (Ibrox + Murray Park) valued two weeks ago at £87m (property assets impaired down to £40m as we are in div 3)On that pre IPO list of investors the Celtic lot don't seem to understand are some of the brightest people in the financial services industry. Arif Naqvi pulled out due to blog sites printing complete rubbish about him thus selling his shares to Housammi. Mr Naqvi just bought a fertiliser company in Egypt for £1.3 billion and is looking to buy another 4-5 similar companies in Egypt - he can't be fucked with the noise he was getting about a little investment like Rangers - doubled his money in 3 months and went on his merry way Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Rich 27 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Green has been promised 10%, and 10% of 22m is 2.2m.So most likely the"missing" 2.2m has likely been set aside for Green.But that would't fit the conspiracy theories, would it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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