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i was just reading about Flamengo on wikipedia - the other curious coincidence with them is that originally they were founded as a rowing club and of course our first badge was adopted from a rowing club... more than that they had an accident and at risk of drowning were saved by a boat called "Loyal" - who'd believe it?

Sorry - i keep on editing this post; apparently one of their first players was a guy called Lawrence Andrews - surely a Scot; might he have gone for a Rangers-like crest???

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Our crest is amazing , I've always thought that the five stars ruin it. The crest needs to be big, bold and beautiful. The five stars could be anywhere else on the top but not above the crest.

The stars should be stylised the same as the letters then they would fit in much better

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