hammer93 15,155 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Giving someone who they might have questions about long term the funds they need is stupidity on another level.40 million for a panic Juan Mata buy who he plays on the wings and 27 million for a guy they could have got for 20 a few weeks before and who hardly features now.So around 70 million spent already by Moyes and hee haw to show for it.The current squad is rotten, he needs a whole new defence, holding midfielder and 2 creative midfielders.Guys like young, cleverly, valencia, welbeck and jones just arent good enough if you want to win the champions league and premiership. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 73,016 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Guys like young, cleverly, valencia, welbeck and jones just arent good enough if you want to win the champions league and premiership.Ferguson done it when them.There is zero excuse for what Moyes has done to this squad of champions. Yes they were no great shakes but to be where they are is the sign of a manager who is out of his depth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,155 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Ferguson done it when them.There is zero excuse for what Moyes has done to this squad of champions. Yes they were no great shakes but to be where they are is the sign of a manager who is out of his depth.Ferguson won a mediocre league last year because of van persies form, he didnt and couldnt win a champions leaguewith them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 73,016 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Ferguson won a mediocre league last year because of van persies form, he didnt and couldnt win a champions leaguewith them.He won it with that squad, that is the fact here. Moyes has the same team plus Mata and MF and is fucking it up.Who said anything about winning the CL with them?They certainly didnt lose games 2-0 to the likes of Greek teams last season... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,155 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 He won it with that squad, that is the fact here. Moyes has the same team plus Mata and MF and is fucking it up.Who said anything about winning the CL with them?They certainly didnt lose games 2-0 to the likes of Greek teams last season...I did, fergie lost quiet a few games against mediocre opposition over the years, in truth with the squads and the finances he had2 wins in the competition was a pretty average return. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 73,016 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I did, fergie lost quiet a few games against mediocre opposition over the years, in truth with the squads and the finances he had2 wins in the competition was a pretty average return.Mate you sound a bit daft tbh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,155 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Mate you sound a bit daft tbhwhy what part of that is daft? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearethemighty 186 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Well this is what happens when you remove the whole backroom staff (a staff that helped the team walk the league last season), and replace them with a backroom staff who lack the experience at this level.Moyes must have a huge ego or unbelievable self confidence to think that he can even begin to compete with the staff he has. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,801 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The_Blue_Flash told us Moyes would flop. Just saying Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,128 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The_Blue_Flash told us Moyes would flop. Just saying She'd still come up with a plan to convince us that Novo still has it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossorange 696 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 On the CL point, Ferguson was beating Real Madrid last season before a harsh sending off. Could well have lost anyway but Moyes is clearly underachieving even if Ferguson did overachieve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 73,016 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 On the CL point, Ferguson was beating Real Madrid last season before a harsh sending off. Could well have lost anyway but Moyes is clearly underachieving even if Ferguson did overachieve.The point about him only winning 2 is crazy.It's a great achievement, he also did not spend the most amount during that time either.Madrid, Barca and towards the second win Chelsea and City spent far far more than Man United.Facts are Moyes has made a cunt of things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The point about him only winning 2 is crazy.It's a great achievement, he also did not spend the most amount during that time either.Madrid, Barca and towards the second win Chelsea and City spent far far more than Man United.Facts are Moyes has made a cunt of things.Likes of Capello, Trapattoni, Van Gaal, Lippi have only won the CL/European cup once yet they're considered amongst the best, rightly so as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,155 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Likes of Capello, Trapattoni, Van Gaal, Lippi have only won the CL/European cup once yet they're considered amongst the best, rightly so as well.But fergie had 18 goes with the same club, a club regarded as the biggest in the world in many of those years.If you have read fergusons autobiography their is undoubted disappointment he didnt win many more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,155 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The point about him only winning 2 is crazy.It's a great achievement, he also did not spend the most amount during that time either.Madrid, Barca and towards the second win Chelsea and City spent far far more than Man United.Facts are Moyes has made a cunt of things.you are a curious charachter godfather, you bleat about our managers failings yet youbelieve that winning 2 champions league is a fantastic achievement?In wages and transfer fees i would reckon fergies man u would of spent somewhere between500mill to 750mill to win 2 champions leagues!Put that into contrast what Ajax, Porto and Dortmund spent to win 1 then i know what i considerto be the greater achievement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 73,016 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 you are a curious charachter godfather, you bleat about our managers failings yet youbelieve that winning 2 champions league is a fantastic achievement?In wages and transfer fees i would reckon fergies man u would of spent somewhere between500mill to 750mill to win 2 champions leagues!Put that into contrast what Ajax, Porto and Dortmund spent to win 1 then i know what i considerto be the greater achievement.He spent that money to dominate English Football which he did by winning titles galore, winning 2 CL titles were bonuses for him.Considering various European Teams spent more and achieved less tells the story... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,155 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 He spent that money to dominate English Football which he did by winning titles galore, winning 2 CL titles were bonuses for him.Considering various European Teams spent more and achieved less tells the story...I disagree, winning the premiership was an achievement in its own merit but dontbelieve for 1 minute that at the start of each season fergie didnt fancy his chances of winning it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 But fergie had 18 goes with the same club, a club regarded as the biggest in the world in many of those years.If you have read fergusons autobiography their is undoubted disappointment he didnt win many more.Of course there's disappointment but it doesn't mean he's failed or underachieved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,689 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 If Man United don't go through I can see him getting the sack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearethemighty 186 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 If Man United don't go through I can see him getting the sack.No chance...unfortunatley. DM will be given next season aswell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Moyes doesn't have the dressing room, it's blatently obvious none of those players were playing with any sort of fight or desireBlame lies with Moyes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERCOOPER 116 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I think the remaining games of the season will determine his future - if they get gubbed of Liverpool etc I think it's goodnight vienna Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,689 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 No chance...unfortunatley. DM will be given next season aswell.Unfortunately ? I'm fucking loving every minute of it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,329 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I think the remaining games of the season will determine his future - if they get gubbed of Liverpool etc I think it's goodnight viennaI reckon they will get gubbed by Liverpool, if the scousers turn up, that is! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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