govanblue 16,847 Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Err in what way does it differ from a normal auction that PayPal could object to?Oh well back to your complex scheme! According to wiki..."bidders pay a fee to make a bid, or may have to pay a subscription fee in order to be able to participate"That's the bit PayPal won't like.I don't like it much either. The way I see it - in order to make enough money, with so few bidders, and so many items, the fee would have to be prohibitive!Anyway - complex is the new black! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Ok but no subscription required - we could run it by giving everyone 25 'bids'and look for the lowest unique bid - I'll administer it if you want - no fee required to enter! ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Ok but no subscription required - we could run it by giving everyone 25 'bids'and look for the lowest unique bid - I'll administer it if you want - no fee required to enter! ??I still don't see what's good about it.let's say we have 6 people interested in the Caniggia top, and I want about £75 for it. How would your scenario play out?Mine would play something like this.Starting price based on survey = £50for each 2 bidders, price goes up £56 bidders takes price to £65if any of the 6 are prepared to pay £70, we draw lots, and it goes to 1 member for £70. If not, we draw lots at £65 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I still don't see what's good about it.let's say we have 6 people interested in the Caniggia top, and I want about £75 for it. How would your scenario play out?Mine would play something like this.Starting price based on survey = £50for each 2 bidders, price goes up £56 bidders takes price to £65if any of the 6 are prepared to pay £70, we draw lots, and it goes to 1 member for £70. If not, we draw lots at £65set the minimum price at £50( or 60 or 70) 10 people make a bid with 20 guesses each person closest to starting price with a unique bid wins. But if you have such a high starting price anyway why not just set the price and draw lots if more than one wants it? Anyway ur the boss u what you want and I'll just help if needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 set the minimum price at £50( or 60 or 70) 10 people make a bid with 20 guesses each person closest to starting price with a unique bid wins.But if you have such a high starting price anyway why not just set the price and draw lots if more than one wants it?Anyway ur the boss u what you want and I'll just help if needed.I still don't get it! (and don't want to!) My £50 was just an example starting price. The survey will hopefully help determine the actual starting price. (I personally rank the Caniggia shirt amongst the more valuable of the 10 shirts, but not the most valuable, so I think £50 is a price I'd be happy to pay for it. But I'm only one voice in the survey.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Of course there is another option...If we could get another 50 members to sign up, we could probably give the Shirts away for free. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I still don't get it! (and don't want to!) My £50 was just an example starting price. The survey will hopefully help determine the actual starting price. (I personally rank the Caniggia shirt amongst the more valuable of the 10 shirts, but not the most valuable, so I think £50 is a price I'd be happy to pay for it. But I'm only one voice in the survey.)Ok np Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Ok npI did like the bit about you administering it though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluedoo 2,652 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 How about if you get all that are interested to agree to pay a % upfront once you have the required price you do a draw, for example if you set a price of £75 for the framed top then 10 peaple would pay 7.50 then you hold the draw. The problem with that is supply and demand, If you take my example you may have 15-20 people interested which is great because your initial input would be lowered but if you only had 4 it would increase from the 7.50 mentioned on the other hand you could bag yourself a great bargain. Just an idea Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 How about if you get all that are interested to agree to pay a % upfront once you have the required price you do a draw, for example if you set a price of £75 for the framed top then 10 peaple would pay 7.50 then you hold the draw. The problem with that is supply and demand, If you take my example you may have 15-20 people interested which is great because your initial input would be lowered but if you only had 4 it would increase from the 7.50 mentioned on the other hand you could bag yourself a great bargain. Just an idea The same two problems:1. PayPal (and me) don't want to see any members paying any money whatsoever, and getting nothing in return for it. So you can't have an "entry fee".2. We'll be lucky to have 15-20 people interested in the whole auction, not in each shirt. So again, entry fees would need to be too expensive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rfc#1. 1,877 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I'm asking You, doo! What price would you feel happy with if you'd got it on ebay?(My answer to that question would be about £20-£25)Fuck i'd be ecstatic gettin' any of the shirts fur that,wuts the going rate fur a signed ball? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Fuck i'd be ecstatic gettin' any of the shirts fur that,wuts the going rate fur a signed ball?I'm thinking £20 or thereabouts Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Fuck i'd be ecstatic gettin' any of the shirts fur that,wuts the going rate fur a signed ball?The £20-£25 I quoted was for the Durrant Print though, not a signed shirt.I'd say (excluding the Orange Shirt), the Framed Shirts range in (my) value from about £30 - £80 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Some of you may not have seen the Framed, Signed shirts we're talking about.Most of them are in this thread here...http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=279342&page=1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluedoo 2,652 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Ok GB thanks for the reply, I appreciate it must be difficult to organise this, keep me posted on developments Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rfc#1. 1,877 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 The £20-£25 I quoted was for the Durrant Print though, not a signed shirt.I'd say (excluding the Orange Shirt), the Framed Shirts range in (my) value from about £30 - £80 I knew it was a too good to be true offer,i misunderstood.30 to 8o sounds fair.Who signed the 72 style shirt? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rfc#1. 1,877 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I'll be keepin my eye oan this thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I did like the bit about you administering it though. That will depend on how complex it is - I'm just a simple lad as ye ken !But yep happy to help Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StublueKPL 524 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I'm confused as f*** but just get that orange shota top boxed and ready to send to Dubai :-) I like the gazza print as well gb Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 I'm confused as f*** but just get that orange shota top boxed and ready to send to Dubai :-)I like the gazza print as well gbI think we may have to limit it to one item per Dubai Oil Billionaire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 Who signed the 72 style shirt?I've only managed to confidently identify a few...Plus Ally's is higher up.It's an official squad one, probably done at the beginning of the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Auction Update:Auction has now Started:http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=280185After much negotiation, we now have our final auction items list and running order.The Shota Arveladze Framed Orange Shirt is first up, and there are no special rules or complications for this. It is quite simply the highest bid wins.(Don't bid here - read the auction thread.)Next, we will have a simultaneous ballot/auction of the 5 remaining framed shirts.Each framed shirt will have a starting price (£40), a current price, and a maximum price (£80).The current price will increase depending on the number of people bidding on that item. If the price reaches the maximum price before the end of the auction, bidding will close on that item, and those bidders will be asked if they want to take part in the ballot at the agreed price. One name will then be pulled out of the hat and will buy the shirt at the agreed price.Finally, we will auction off all the other items we have (signed prints, signed balls etc) in the same way.Hopefully that sounds ok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 The 2nd phase of the auction is now ready to begin.I will launch a thread for the 6 framed shirts very soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted March 13, 2015 Author Share Posted March 13, 2015 Just to let you know that the accounts have been updated a couple of times in the last couple of weeks.Here are the latest figures...Fund Accounts: as at 13/03/15Total Funds raised to date: £18,344.45Total Funds Spent to date: £17,010.91Season 2014 / 2015 AccountsSpent so far Season 2014/15 (most recent at top):£555 - Ricksen Wall Panel£32 - Rising Stars (v QOTS)£1126.80 - Seb Faure Sponsorship / Hospitality Package£200 - 200 Lucky Legends Raffle Tickets£200 - 200 Lucky Legends Raffle Tickets Donated by Mrs Eagle's Rangers Charity Shop£100 - 100 Lucky Legends Raffle Tickets for Fund Members£19 - Rangers Lotto (19 weekly tickets for a member)£10 - Postage costs for prizes£20 - 10 Rising Stars (v Hibs)£250 - Rangers Ladies Player Sponsorship (Natalie Ross)£300 - 25 Fernando Ricksen Tribute Match Tickets for Combat Stress (Sponsors' Fund)£288 - 24 Fernando Ricksen Tribute Match Tickets for Quarriers Stopover (Teddy Bears' Fund)£138 - 13 Fernando Ricksen Tribute Match Tickets for Erskine Homes (Erskine Lunch Fund)£120 - Megastore Shopping for Erskine Veterans Ibrox Day Out (Sponsors' Fund)£40 - Ibrox Staff tips (for Erskine Veterans Ibrox Day Out - Waiting staff, tour guide, Shop helpers)£130 - Argyle Lunch for Erskine Veterans (Erskine Lunch Fund)£52 - 26 Rising Stars (v Livingston)£63 - Selection Boxes and Christmas Biscuits (Teddy Bears' Fund - Glasgow South West Food Bank)£14.10 - Postage for raffle prizes£500 - Cash Donation (shared amongst 5 Erskine Care Homes)£20 - 10 Rising Stars (v Cowdenbeath)£36 - 2 Match Tickets for Erskine (v Cowdenbeath)£20 - 10 Rising Stars (v Alloa)£40 - 1 Ibrox Paving Brick for Fund Member£20 - 10 Rising Stars (v Falkirk)£200 - 5 Rangers Bricks for Fund Members£40 - Rangers Lotto (annual subscription for a Fund Member)£50 - Match programme subscription for Combat Stress (Hollybush House)£56 - Megastore purchases (details to be revealed soon)£112 - Match tickets for Combat Stress (Armed Forces Day)£33 - Match tickets for Erskine (Armed forces Day)£20 - 10 Rising Stars£16 - 16 Rangers Scratchcards£84 - Rangers Lotto (2 annual subscriptions for the Fund)£84 - Rangers Lotto (2 annual subscriptions for 2 members)£40 - 20 Rising Stars (We won £100!)£72 - 3 tickets for Combat Stress (v ICT)£93 - 5 Tickets for Erskine Homes (v ICT)£200 - Rangers Ladies - Sponsorship of 2 Home Matches£100 - Rangers Ladies - Sponsorship of 2 U-13 Players£20 - 10 Rising Stars (v QOTS)£60 - Rangers Lotto (2 new Lotto group members)£150 – Auchenhowie Fan Panel£200 – 5 Ibrox Paving Bricks£20 – 10 Rising Stars tickets (v Dumbarton)£15 – 5 x match programmes for Quarriers Stopover group£200 – 4 x match programme annual subscriptions for Erskine Homes£31 – 1 ticket v Hearts for Quarriers Stopover group (from Teddy Bears’ Fund)£50 – 25 Rising Stars v Hearts£312 – Rangers Lotto (£104 from Fund, £208 from 4 members’ direct donations)£70 – 70 Rangers Scratchcards£80 – 2 Ibrox Paving BricksTotal spent so far this season: £6592.90Funds raised since last update: £1116.47£200 - Arveladze Shirt£47.74 - Sponsors' Fund Joining Fees£40.00 - Bar 72 ticket sales£18.91 - Erskine donations from Fund Members£40 - Erskine Lunch Fund Donations from 2 members£169.82 - Members' Joining Fees/Donations from 24 members£600 - Hospitality package sale to MembersCurrent balance in Funds: as at 13/03/15Sponsors' Fund: £702.96Teddy Bears’ Fund: £2.74Erskine Lunch Fund: £627.84Current Total Balance: £1333.54We also have about £600 still to collect for the Sponsors' Fund from the Framed Shirts Auction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,899 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Just to let you know that the accounts have been updated a couple of times in the last couple of weeks.Here are the latest figures...Fund Accounts: as at 13/03/15Total Funds raised to date: £18,344.45Total Funds Spent to date: £17,010.91Season 2014 / 2015 AccountsSpent so far Season 2014/15 (most recent at top):£555 - Ricksen Wall Panel£32 - Rising Stars (v QOTS)£1126.80 - Seb Faure Sponsorship / Hospitality Package£200 - 200 Lucky Legends Raffle Tickets£200 - 200 Lucky Legends Raffle Tickets Donated by Mrs Eagle's Rangers Charity Shop£100 - 100 Lucky Legends Raffle Tickets for Fund Members£19 - Rangers Lotto (19 weekly tickets for a member)£10 - Postage costs for prizes£20 - 10 Rising Stars (v Hibs)£250 - Rangers Ladies Player Sponsorship (Natalie Ross)£300 - 25 Fernando Ricksen Tribute Match Tickets for Combat Stress (Sponsors' Fund)£288 - 24 Fernando Ricksen Tribute Match Tickets for Quarriers Stopover (Teddy Bears' Fund)£138 - 13 Fernando Ricksen Tribute Match Tickets for Erskine Homes (Erskine Lunch Fund)£120 - Megastore Shopping for Erskine Veterans Ibrox Day Out (Sponsors' Fund)£40 - Ibrox Staff tips (for Erskine Veterans Ibrox Day Out - Waiting staff, tour guide, Shop helpers)£130 - Argyle Lunch for Erskine Veterans (Erskine Lunch Fund)£52 - 26 Rising Stars (v Livingston)£63 - Selection Boxes and Christmas Biscuits (Teddy Bears' Fund - Glasgow South West Food Bank)£14.10 - Postage for raffle prizes£500 - Cash Donation (shared amongst 5 Erskine Care Homes)£20 - 10 Rising Stars (v Cowdenbeath)£36 - 2 Match Tickets for Erskine (v Cowdenbeath)£20 - 10 Rising Stars (v Alloa)£40 - 1 Ibrox Paving Brick for Fund Member£20 - 10 Rising Stars (v Falkirk)£200 - 5 Rangers Bricks for Fund Members£40 - Rangers Lotto (annual subscription for a Fund Member)£50 - Match programme subscription for Combat Stress (Hollybush House)£56 - Megastore purchases (details to be revealed soon)£112 - Match tickets for Combat Stress (Armed Forces Day)£33 - Match tickets for Erskine (Armed forces Day)£20 - 10 Rising Stars£16 - 16 Rangers Scratchcards£84 - Rangers Lotto (2 annual subscriptions for the Fund)£84 - Rangers Lotto (2 annual subscriptions for 2 members)£40 - 20 Rising Stars (We won £100!)£72 - 3 tickets for Combat Stress (v ICT)£93 - 5 Tickets for Erskine Homes (v ICT)£200 - Rangers Ladies - Sponsorship of 2 Home Matches£100 - Rangers Ladies - Sponsorship of 2 U-13 Players£20 - 10 Rising Stars (v QOTS)£60 - Rangers Lotto (2 new Lotto group members)£150 – Auchenhowie Fan Panel£200 – 5 Ibrox Paving Bricks£20 – 10 Rising Stars tickets (v Dumbarton)£15 – 5 x match programmes for Quarriers Stopover group£200 – 4 x match programme annual subscriptions for Erskine Homes£31 – 1 ticket v Hearts for Quarriers Stopover group (from Teddy Bears’ Fund)£50 – 25 Rising Stars v Hearts£312 – Rangers Lotto (£104 from Fund, £208 from 4 members’ direct donations)£70 – 70 Rangers Scratchcards£80 – 2 Ibrox Paving BricksTotal spent so far this season: £6592.90Funds raised since last update: £1116.47£200 - Arveladze Shirt£47.74 - Sponsors' Fund Joining Fees£40.00 - Bar 72 ticket sales£18.91 - Erskine donations from Fund Members£40 - Erskine Lunch Fund Donations from 2 members£169.82 - Members' Joining Fees/Donations from 24 members£600 - Hospitality package sale to MembersCurrent balance in Funds: as at 13/03/15Sponsors' Fund: £702.96Teddy Bears’ Fund: £2.74Erskine Lunch Fund: £627.84Current Total Balance: £1333.54We also have about £600 still to collect for the Sponsors' Fund from the Framed Shirts Auction. It makes you proud to be a RM member and of course a Sponsor's Fund member. Fantastic work GB and all who have contributed whether it is a large or small amount. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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