Reality check for the Ally Bashers...

[Guest]

Na mate some peoples heads arent stuck up their ar**s.. did you not see what happened to our whole squad?

Pfft. So every shite performance or game lost for the next 10 years is excused because our squad fucked off 3 years ago? Geez a break and stop clutching at straws. So many pro-Ally post absolutely reek of desperation. Ally has probably spent more money than the entire 2 divisions we've went through. And we struggle to draw against Alloa, a team we beat 7-0 two years ago, which just proves our players go backwards under McCoist, these excuses about things that happened 3 years and £30 million ago are cringeworthy.

[Jack The Flipper 5,936]

Pfft. So every shite performance or game lost for the next 10 years is excused because our squad fucked off 3 years ago? Geez a break and stop clutching at straws. So many pro-Ally post absolutely reek of desperation. Ally has probably spent more money than the entire 2 divisions we've went through. And we struggle to draw against Alloa, a team we beat 7-0 two years ago, which just proves our players go backwards under McCoist, these excuses about things that happened 3 years and £30 million ago are cringeworthy.

Some of those posts aren't worth commenting on. We are supposed to have high standards, which doesn't necessarily mean we have to spend kumquatajillions in cash. All most Rangers fans on here are wanting is us to do the best with what we've got, and as we've seen this is not the case. There has been so much money wasted which could have been spent far more wisely on assets we desperately require. All we wanted was growth in the right direction, but thanks to folk inclusive of Ally, we have done exactly the wrong thing - with poor execution. The amount of money having been spent makes this very hard to swallow, and McCoist along with board members deserve all the criticism they've been getting + 1.

[simplythebest 11,453]

I think I fall into that category.

I've been loyal to McCoist for 3 years. I'll be loyal to him until the end of the season, wherupon successfully securing promotion (it has to be done), I'm receptive to him stepping down.

The club needs a very detail-orientated/serious-minded kind of manager + 1 or 2 assistants when it is back in the top league in my view.

Why would you be so determined to stay loyal to him if promotion matters so much? It's November and we could well be nine points behind by the end of Saturday afternoon, so putting aside the shite performances actually winning the league looks far from being a certainty.

[The Godfather 75,673]

Pfft. So every shite performance or game lost for the next 10 years is excused because our squad fucked off 3 years ago? Geez a break and stop clutching at straws. So many pro-Ally post absolutely reek of desperation. Ally has probably spent more money than the entire 2 divisions we've went through. And we struggle to draw against Alloa, a team we beat 7-0 two years ago, which just proves our players go backwards under McCoist, these excuses about things that happened 3 years and £30 million ago are cringeworthy.

It’s ridiculous to see the same old excuses being made for Ally McCoist and his squad every single time they don’t deliver.

“Aye but we lost our whole team so we did!”, “Nae pre season!”, “It’s only free transfers so geez a break!”

Do these people forget we assembled a squad who combined are the second highest paid squad in the land? Do they forget we have multiple cup winning players in the squad who performed very well at the highest level in the SPL and a few who have played international and European football?

Like DBBTB said not one single person on here has ever said we should be equalling what we did with the squad we had 4 years ago…what we have been saying though is that a squad made up of the players we have should absolutely be delivering a cup, winning the leagues and looking a cut above the teams we are playing….so far only one of those is happening and it’s not good enough.

Do we expect to beat teams 6-0 every week? No and no one has said as much.

Do we expect to play good football and look a level above teams we have been playing? Absolutely.

McCoist choose to sign these tried and tested top level footballers in the lower leagues instead of going with youth and lower league stalwarts, since he took that option it’s entirely right he is judged when the squad he brought together at a ridiculously high cost is performing like a Sunday league pub side every other game.

There is no point treating these posters opinions as serious ONES since they say the same recycled rubbish after every embarrassment we find ourselves in. It’s never McCoist’s fault…it’s our fault because our expectations are too high supposedly.

It seems many have lost their standards that our club deserves, it actually seems they hold one man higher than the institution. Laughable…deluded and pretty worrying.

[Blue_Devil 350]

We aren't dropping our standards for AM.

Some people are however expecting AM to reach a standard never set before in the history of the game.

Pretty football was never part of the 9IAR make-up. We left that to Tommy Burns. Winning games was, and AM has done that 73% of the time. Win ugly, win often.

He has only set out to deliver the type of culture he knows will deliver success.

AM has not yet been proven to be a good manager, nor has he been proven to be a bad one.

Until he fails to deliver, he deserves time not pelters.

[Thee Edgar Sanchez 13]

We aren't dropping our standards for AM.

Some people are however expecting AM to reach a standard never set before in the history of the game.

Pretty football was never part of the 9IAR make-make-up. We left that to Tommy Burns. Winning games was and AM has done that 73% of the time. Win ugly, win often.

He has only set out to deliver the type of culture he knows will deliver success.

AM has not yet been proven to be a good manager, nor has he been proven to be a bad one.

Until he fails to deliver, he deserves time not pelters.

Since you like using % so much, what's your view on this one? In the past 3 years we have been knocked out of 100% of cups we've entered.

[Guest]

AM has not yet been proven to be a good manager, nor has he been proven to be a bad one.

Until he fails to deliver, he deserves time not pelters.

Hes failed to deliver numerous times. Hes been proven an utter shite manager. You have been proven clueless.

[The Godfather 75,673]

Until he fails to deliver, he deserves time not pelters.

You just woke up from a 3 year slumber?

Fails to deliver?

What the hell do you call:

Blowing a 15 point lead

Getting punted out of Europe twice in a matter of weeks

Getting rattled in every cup he has managed us in.

Bottling a cup final against lower league opposition

Losing two home games against out direct rivals before December.

You do realise we are Rangers right?

Fucking hell man

[Blue_Devil 350]

Since you like using % so much, what's your view on this one? In the past 3 years we have been knocked out of 100% of cups we've entered.

So have Dundee Utd, Inverness C and Motherwell to name a few. Even Celtic have been knocked out of 92% of cup competitions entered over the same period (and I am not counting the CL twice this year!!).

Winning football matches and competitions is not easy. Especially at the centre of a circus.

[TheBluebells 6,898]

We aren't dropping our standards for AM.

Some people are however expecting AM to reach a standard never set before in the history of the game.

Pretty football was never part of the 9IAR make-up. We left that to Tommy Burns. Winning games was, and AM has done that 73% of the time. Win ugly, win often.

He has only set out to deliver the type of culture he knows will deliver success.

AM has not yet been proven to be a good manager, nor has he been proven to be a bad one.

Until he fails to deliver, he deserves time not pelters.

[KeyserSoze 15,269]

Why would you be so determined to stay loyal to him if promotion matters so much? It's November and we could well be nine points behind by the end of Saturday afternoon, so putting aside the shite performances actually winning the league looks far from being a certainty.

that's a mute point there STB, we will be three points behind Hertz come Saturday afternoon so winning the league becomes more of a certainty.

[TheBluebells 6,898]

that's a mute point there STB, we will be three points behind Hertz come Saturday afternoon so winning the league becomes more of a certainty.

I hope I'm completely wrong and instead you're right.

[coopsleftboot 5,512]

You just woke up from a 3 year slumber?

Fails to deliver?

What the hell do you call:

Blowing a 15 point lead

Getting punted out of Europe twice in a matter of weeks

Getting rattled in every cup he has managed us in.

Bottling a cup final against lower league opposition

Losing two home games against out direct rivals before December.

You do realise we are Rangers right?

Fucking hell man

Seems to me you're still in your three year slumber...and dreaming.

[The Godfather 75,673]

Seems to me you're still in your three year slumber...and dreaming.

So all of that didn't happen then?

Aye no bother chief.

[onefootwillie 1,519]

I gave Ally till end of last season to see if we could play some football. There is no sign of any decent football or coaching which is down to Ally and his coaches we should be able to do this with the players we have at this level. Also to me several of the players do not have the mental strength to play for us. The 3 prime examples are Templeton, Shields and Law they all go missing when the going gets tough

[Jack The Flipper 5,936]

So all of that didn't happen then?

Aye no bother chief.

Really is pointless debating with some on here GF, the production of fact makes no impact.

[Thee Edgar Sanchez 13]

So have Dundee Utd, Inverness C and Motherwell to name a few. Even Celtic have been knocked out of 92% of cup competitions entered over the same period (and I am not counting the CL twice this year!!).

Winning football matches and competitions is not easy. Especially at the centre of a circus.

Comparing Rangers to Dundee Utd, Inverness and Motherwell! Have a word with yourself.

[The Godfather 75,673]

Really is pointless debating with some on here GF, the production of fact makes no impact.

Place really is full of dullards.

[BigAmo'sThighs 848]

We aren't dropping our standards for AM.

Some people are however expecting AM to reach a standard never set before in the history of the game.

Pretty football was never part of the 9IAR make-up. We left that to Tommy Burns. Winning games was, and AM has done that 73% of the time. Win ugly, win often.

He has only set out to deliver the type of culture he knows will deliver success.

AM has not yet been proven to be a good manager, nor has he been proven to be a bad one.

Until he fails to deliver, he deserves time not pelters.

Right... I don't speak for everyone on here, but we're not asking mccoist to reach a particularly high level, we are, after all, playing in the Scottish lower leagues. All we want is a team on the park we can be proud of. We want a team that actually has impetus, playing in a manner that suits our players. He's failed to implement any sort of structure to our play. That's criminal, absolutely criminal, for any manager at any level.

Instead, we get a lifeless, dull and slow team that doesn't appear to be bothered it's arse minus one or two players. Yes, it's true he's relying on freebies, but those freebies where tearing up the SPL for the few years before we got them, black - dominated for hearts, Sandaza - st johnstones star striker at the time, Law - shone in midfield for Motherwell, templeton - hearts' most creative player... I could go on. Not only did he spend a massive chunk of wages on these players, he's regressed them beyond belief. Along with the wages cribari was on, a seasoned veteran playing in serie A, he's completely wasted our resources.

"Pretty football" might not have been the mainstay of the 9IAR era, but the team was set up with the determination, structure, shape and tactics to win games comfortably. Can't say it's the same now.

[Poetry_In_Blue 1,043]

Can't be arsed reading the full of the OP, got as far as the 75% figure and gave up, of course the figure is going to be higher we've been in the bottom two tiers of Scottish football and if anything the figure should be higher than 75%!!!

[Blue_Devil 350]

Comparing Rangers to Dundee Utd, Inverness and Motherwell! Have a word with yourself.

They are SPL level teams that we will overtake in due course. The point is many teams have been "knocked out of 100% of cup competitions in the last 3 years". Despite spending more than the rest of the SPFL put together Celtic have been knocked out of 92% of cup competitions in that period. It is not a stat that highlights AM to be terrible.

[Thee Edgar Sanchez 13]

They are SPL level teams that we will overtake in due course. The point is many teams have been "knocked out of 100% of cup competitions in the last 3 years". Despite spending more than the rest of the SPFL put together Celtic have been knocked out of 92% of cup competitions in that period. It is not a stat that highlights AM to be terrible.

delusional doesn't even come close to describing you.

[coopsleftboot 5,512]

Really is pointless debating with some on here GF, the production of fact makes no impact.

It's not debating though. It's more along the lines of "my opinion is the only one that counts"...shouted. And being totally derogatory to all other views.

Some of the players....look at how they're described in the post above...are being elevated to a level they could simply only ever dream of.

I've never been one to trumpet Ally's virtues as a manager (becasue there really aren't that many) but football and getting results EVERY time, and playing in the same manner EVERY time is virtually impossible. There's context to consider and a myriad of ofactors to throw in that can affect any game. And NO team, no matter how good they are compared to the opposition wins every game and performs brilliantly every time.

All I ever ask is for criticism to be considered and constructive. Lintero's post above is one such post, with the exception of the elevated quality of some of our signings! But then again, no signing is a guaranteed success, no matter what level you're at or how much you're paying them. Surely we've all seen that before?

[DietofWorms 2,077]

We aren't dropping our standards for AM.

Some people are however expecting AM to reach a standard never set before in the history of the game.

Pretty football was never part of the 9IAR make-up. We left that to Tommy Burns. Winning games was, and AM has done that 73% of the time. Win ugly, win often.

He has only set out to deliver the type of culture he knows will deliver success.

AM has not yet been proven to be a good manager, nor has he been proven to be a bad one.

Until he fails to deliver, he deserves time not pelters.

Away you to fuck! Some of the best football we played was In the 9IAR years. The 1991-94 period especially.

McCoist simply hasn't got it as a Manager. The sooner he's gone the better.

[coopsleftboot 5,512]

Comparing Rangers to Dundee Utd, Inverness and Motherwell! Have a word with yourself.

On the playing side, that's where we are right now.