Moody Blue 9,355 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I seriously doubt it will be any better than last season's dross Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, HG5 said: Walter had some track record with us to fall back on. No further explanation required. And still everyone wanted him sacked after Kaunus and Unirea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,523 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Lloyd72 said: They came to play for Rangers, they have a contract with the club not the manager. Yip. And if Pedro does get sacked and they no longer want to play then they can barely call themselves professional footballers.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueThunder 8,453 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I'm gonna buck the trend and say yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,113 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, Captain Hilts said: And still everyone wanted him sacked after Kaunus and Unirea. Indeed, but at least he had something to use as an argument for keeping him on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR1979 1,964 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 18 minutes ago, HG5 said: Walter had some track record with us to fall back on. No further explanation required. I just don't think that we should be writing off this season just yet we have had terrible European results in the past and went on to have a good season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 minute ago, HG5 said: Indeed, but at least he had something to use as an argument for keeping him on. No-one gave a shit about his track record after getting pumped off those Romanian cunts at Ibrox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,797 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 My faith in Pedro took some dunt last night. I was not happy when we only scored one goal in the first leg and worried that the fuck up that happened last night might be a possibility, but tried to convince myself that it would not happen. How stuppid was I. So at this moment I am very unsure if Pedro has the ability to manage us and make us a good team even with his own players. What I do know is that he is here for a few months at least (it will depend on results) and so I am going to try once the disappointment eases a little to get myself up for the new season and hope that once the latest signings arrive and settle in the team can finally start to play. Am I sure that will happen, not at all, but at the moment what can we do, we cannot turn our back on the team, we have to try and retain some faith and keep believing as someone once said. I will also add that I fully understand why many will disagree with my post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,113 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 minute ago, GWR1979 said: I just don't think that we should be writing off this season just yet we have had terrible European results in the past and went on to have a good season. I think this one was a different level of terrible to what's gone before. Given the manager had already given us a result v the scum worse than ever before & one v the sheep that is the worst for 2 generations, you really struggle to see where it improves from here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,113 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Captain Hilts said: No-one gave a shit about his track record after getting pumped off those Romanian cunts at Ibrox. True, but he stayed on because of his previous & pulled it round. Pedro has no previous to fall back on. Interesting common denominator between the game you chose & now - Pedro Mendes. Did he score a heavily deflected goal in the 1st minute, then proceed to give the ball away time & time again with waffy outside of the foot chips to nobody? Was his last game for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 minute ago, HG5 said: True, but he stayed on because of his previous & pulled it round. Pedro has no previous to fall back on. Interesting common denominator between the game you chose & now - Pedro Mendes. Did he score a heavily deflected goal in the 1st minute, then proceed to give the ball away time & time again with waffy outside of the foot chips to nobody? Was his last game for us. Mendes had a hellish time with injuries that season. That game was one of only a few he played that season iirc. I think most fans will remember him for his outstanding displays the season before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,113 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Captain Hilts said: Mendes had a hellish time with injuries that season. That game was one of only a few he played that season iirc. I think most fans will remember him for his outstanding displays the season before. Indeed - especially that goal v them! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR1979 1,964 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, HG5 said: I think this one was a different level of terrible to what's gone before. Given the manager had already given us a result v the scum worse than ever before & one v the sheep that is the worst for 2 generations, you really struggle to see where it improves from here. It's hard to make a case for Pedro as he has no pedigree or we can point to something he has achieved as he is an unknown. If the DOF is in place and we should have a structure in place to replace the Head Coach and bring in a new one, I can't understand why we gave him a 3 year contract. If he has a shit start to the season his position will become untenable. I just hope we start well. We need a 2nd place finish this season and at least a trophy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,113 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, GWR1979 said: It's hard to make a case for Pedro as he has no pedigree or we can point to something he has achieved as he is an unknown. If the DOF is in place and we should have a structure in place to replace the Head Coach and bring in a new one, I can't understand why we gave him a 3 year contract. If he has a shit start to the season his position will become untenable. I just hope we start well. We need a 2nd place finish this season and at least a trophy. I'd agree with all of that - I'm afraid I'm not optimistic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, HG5 said: Indeed - especially that goal v them! Please don't make me think of good times. I'll fucking cry Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,113 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Captain Hilts said: Please don't make me think of good times. I'll fucking cry It's a bit of a shock when you realise how far back they are! To be hoped the return is closer than we think! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR1979 1,964 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 15 minutes ago, HG5 said: I'd agree with all of that - I'm afraid I'm not optimistic. Still shocked about last night. These games in the Europa league has come to quickly after a bad season last year. Hopefully we can get rid of the shite from last year their chance has gone, Pedro's signings need time to acclimatise and get a chance, Windass needs released I never want to see that excuse for a footballer again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,113 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, GWR1979 said: Still shocked about last night. These games in the Europa league has come to quickly after a bad season last year. Hopefully we can get rid of the shite from last year their chance has gone, Pedro's signings need time to acclimatise and get a chance, Windass needs released I never want to see that excuse for a footballer again. Dead on - Windass used to play around here. To say there's astonishment that he's got to a club our size is an understatement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza27 15,283 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Aye Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Bronzy said: I'm strangely optimistic, considering the fact I was so fucking gutted last night. It might be hope more than anything, but I look at our potential XI, and it looks miles better than the team last season. That result could be a turning point imo, hopefully the players realise what an utter fuck up they've made and that is the kick up the arse for them. Maffeo? Since when? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 26,160 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, WWTC said: Maffeo? Since when? Hopefully true, if not then it'll probably be Hutton or Abella. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Bronzy said: Hopefully true, if not then it'll probably be Hutton or Abella. Cant see it tbh. I doubt they'll let him go and doubt he'd come to us if he did. I dont think we'll sign a fullback, Dorrans could be our last signing of the summer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 26,160 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, WWTC said: Cant see it tbh. I doubt they'll let him go and doubt he'd come to us if he did. I dont think we'll sign a fullback, Dorrans could be our last signing of the summer I get the feeling Tavernier wants to leave tbh. Didn't MW bid for him? I imagine he'll go to Forest, if so we would need to replace him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theclothmonster 1,707 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 No, tactics was supposed to be Pedro's strong point and so far he has been awful in that department, Warburton's at least had a plan A until teams figured him out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, Bronzy said: I get the feeling Tavernier wants to leave tbh. Didn't MW bid for him? I imagine he'll go to Forest, if so we would need to replace him. Aye thats true, you could be right i suppose Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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