Algeran 30 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, bigrab1982 said: A few weeks ago in a English cup game the referee gave a team a penalty and just as the player was running up to take it the referee got told on the build up to the foul a player was offside so stopped the penalty and gave the other team a free kick. Could you picture the riots if that happened to us against the scum I understand your point but every decision taken by any referee will either meet with approval from one team and not the other ( be it us or the SCUM ) ! So if VAR was employed in a game, both sets of supporters, whether or not happy about a decision, would be able to see that it was the correct decision - hence my suggestion that the 'panel' was not located in Scotland thus eliminating any suggestion of bias which, of course, is what we experience now ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algeran 30 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, billscott said: at the end of the day var is still a referee making a decision i do agree they would get several looks at the incident instead of the one chance a ref gets however in light of recent decisions ie power mcginn several looks still did not get it right But that was not with the benefit of VAR ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,746 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Yees are talkin a load of shite whit we need is mer gender neutral referees, we used tae call them poofs and lezzies in the auld daze!😎 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algeran 30 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Blumhoilann said: Don't mind goal line tech but not VAR, imagine how the players will disrupt play for the slightest wee infringement? Need full time Refs tho. But VAR is only 'interested' in certain circumstances ( game changing incidents ) mainly around the boxes and not minor infringements ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Just now, Algeran said: But VAR is only 'interested' in certain circumstances ( game changing incidents ) mainly around the boxes and not minor infringements ! No thanks,stops the flow of the game and players will learn to use it to their own advantage.It was used in an English game recently and the fans said it was shocking,stop start stop start the whole game,think it was Southampton v somebody? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algeran 30 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Inigo said: They wouldn't get those wrong with VAR. You can't hide behind technicalities and such like with VAR the way the people making these decisions do. Where VAR is used they get most things spot on. You are absolutely correct, VAR officials are not sat in the stand but have the benefit of replays from various different angles, and are at some distance from the action but are linked by internet footage, so are not subject to pressure or bias ! It really is a no brainer ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 No need for VAR in Scotland, the system as is works just fine. Fenian refs and CO's not to mention the board of the SFA and SPFL. What needs to be changed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algeran 30 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, Blumhoilann said: No thanks,stops the flow of the game and players will learn to use it to their own advantage.It was used in an English game recently and the fans said it was shocking,stop start stop start the whole game,think it was Southampton v somebody? May have been an FA cup match as not in EPL or EFL as of now. Of course it is still early stages. The principle is absolutely OK ! Principle uses are :- In what situations can VAR be used? There are four situations when the VAR team are able to get involved in the game. Goals and offences leading up to a goal – offside/fouls Penalty decisions and offences leading up to a penalty – offside/fouls Direct red card incidents Mistaken identity So any potential fouls outside of the penalty box will not be reviewed unless they are worthy of a direct red card, or in the build-up to a penalty decision or goal. Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/19/var-work-used-football-questions-answered-7643928/?ito=cbshare Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 9 hours ago, mclovin9091 said: Seen as the common complain from mosts clubs in the SPFL is the referring inaccuracies and lack of consistency. Rather than paying for VAR which would cost millions to implement (not to mention paying for 3 Muppets to sit in a room at every game) would be a better return for those millions (let's argue it would cost £2M) not be to go full time with referees? At say £40k a year for a pro ref in the SPFL that would allow 6 refs to be paid for 8 and a bit years. The money saved from the match fees they currently get could be out into the pot and lengthen that time frame. Linesmen and the 4th Official could stay part time as there is less responsibility on them. Thoughts? I'm for VAR, if they can come up with some sort of CO to keep a check on the refs consistency and prevent the system being abused. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclovin9091 1,405 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 Just had a right random thought, what about trying rugby referees, you hardly see a player gobbing off to a rugby ref! They seem to have better discipline. Or maybe just a rain the players to have more respect and not pester the red, only the captain can approach him. Na that'd never work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del 667 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 22 hours ago, mclovin9091 said: Seen as the common complain from mosts clubs in the SPFL is the referring inaccuracies and lack of consistency. Rather than paying for VAR which would cost millions to implement (not to mention paying for 3 Muppets to sit in a room at every game) would be a better return for those millions (let's argue it would cost £2M) not be to go full time with referees? At say £40k a year for a pro ref in the SPFL that would allow 6 refs to be paid for 8 and a bit years. The money saved from the match fees they currently get could be out into the pot and lengthen that time frame. Linesmen and the 4th Official could stay part time as there is less responsibility on them. Thoughts? Whilst it might make a slight difference, as others have said, you only need to look at the richest league in the world and even they are bringning in VAR as refs keep making wrong decisions! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,122 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, mclovin9091 said: Just had a right random thought, what about trying rugby referees, you hardly see a player gobbing off to a rugby ref! They seem to have better discipline. Or maybe just a rain the players to have more respect and not pester the red, only the captain can approach him. Na that'd never work. Rubgy players are taught from an early age not to question a ref. The captain can ask why a decision has been given that is it. Anyone else it is a penalty. And referees in rugby are always addressed as sir. It would need ti be ingrained at school for it to take effect in football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclovin9091 1,405 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 Should be something that's encouraged then. Grassroots and all that. If the kids were bring taught it, then the pros would have to change thier attitude being that they should be setting the example. Can always hope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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